[Wikimediach-l] transparency, and marketing via emails
hi, what do you think about including the apropriate wiki page (if it exists) in mails to the list? this would allow an easy click to get the current status and help beeing more transparent. a very efficient means of markteting would also be to include a maximum of four lines with currently important information we would like that other people should be informed of. what do you think? what is the address of the gep building, so we could put a link to gis.zh, or switzerland door to door behind it on our wiki (http://www.gis.zh.ch/zvv/default.asp?fromLocationId=0toLocationId=0new_selection=usr=www.zvv.chmvu=zvvframes=yesstart_search=yesstart=1protocol=http%3Alg=dmylanguage=dservername=fahrplan.zvv.chfromIsZSG=notoIsZSG=noAZ=AS=queryPageDisplayed=yesgis1=HaltestelleREQ0JourneyStopsS0A=1from.0=REQ0JourneyStopsS0ID=gis2=AdresseREQ0JourneyStopsZ0A=1to.0=REQ0JourneyStopsZ0ID=REQ0JourneyStops1A=1REQ0JourneyStops1G=date=So%2C+30.04.06wDayExt0=Mo%7CDi%7CMi%7CDo%7CFr%7CSa%7CSotime=15%3A10REQ0HafasSearchForw=1)? rupert. --- 2006-06-17: wikipedia day with eth oo professor bertrand meyer - http://ch.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events/Wikipedia_Day_2006 foundation of wikimedia switzerland currently in progress! ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
[Wikimediach-l] zahlen, zahlen for pr ....
hi, i am preparing mails for organizations who could donate money to help the initial foundation and maybe also cover running cost. for facilitating this some numbers would be great: * number of wikipedia editors out of switzerland * number of edits they make on the wikis of the different languages * number of pages they monitor on the wikis of the different languages * number of pages they created * number of page hits on pages with swiss related content especially country, cities, regions, mountains, ... on the wikis in different languages do we have something like this, or it is more an illusion? rupert. ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Bylaws
i fully agree, i would even give it to some native english speaker after the strangenesses are sorted out. i would also agree to change it to board instead of comittee, btw :) rupert. On 4/14/06, Michael Bimmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/14/06, Frederic Schutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jürg Studer wrote: The minutes are to be made available to the Association members not more than two months after a decision has been made, otherwise the committee constitutes itself. I understand the general idea, but my dictionaries do not know any meaning of the work constitute that would fit this sentence (neither does the website http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=constitute). maybe this helps: constituer Hum... no, it does not really help... Looking at the German text, it may also be the word otherwise that confuses me: I don't really see how the two parts of the sentence are related. Are we saying that the comitee must provide the minutes, but that otherwise, it is free to get organised as it wants ? It's definitely mixed up: First sentence = Committee (hey, by the way, why are we always using the term commitee instead of board?) must send its minutes to its members at the latest 2 months after. (Full stop). Then there comes another sentence, meaning The Committee does organise it self, i.e. on the first associations, roles will be distributed (president is voted separatly by member's association, but roles like treasurer, secretary, vice-president, PR etc. are chosen by the board/committee itself). This doesn't have anything to do with the last sentence, I don't even see why it's in this clause/part of the paragraph, the german Im übrigen which was translated into Otherwise, was somehow intended to indicate This last sentence has not so much to do with the other sentences here but the otherwise does not show this anymore. My proposal: move the otherwise the committee constitutes itself (german: Im übrigen etc.) away from §10.3 to §10.1 (The committee consists of a president and 4 – 6 further members), there it fits much better. Regards Michael PS: I hope we have not any more strange things in the bylaws, we may have to make a final proofreading session at the founding assembly, because when we have once voted the bylaws, we cannot just fix these things quickly but have to call together the members assembly each time... Frederic ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l -- Regards Michael Bimmler ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] about Wikipedia Day - a proposal
a good proposal, tx, but i think we definitely would need somebody for the budget/finances/account, just one or two people :) i volonteer to take part in the sponsoring team, or in the core team for sponsoring, if your team gets too small. rupert. On 3/27/06, Michael Bimmler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, as our Wikipedia Day will be in less than 3 months and as the foundation of Wikimedia CH might be a bit delayed still (ChapCom + board - it might still pass some time until a definitive vote), I think we should definitely start the planning now. However I think, that we cannot do all the planning only on this mailinglist. Why? 1. Not everybody who might be interested in Wikipedia Day is also interested in Wikimedia CH and not everybody here on this ml is interested in organizing the Wikipedia Day. 2. If we start thinking about sponsors, public archiving of that is maybe not so good: Imagine the following think (okay, you really have to imagine...): Somebody proposes on this list Let's ask Company XY to sponsor the day [because I know somebody there/ because they have sponsored similar events etc.]. Now somebody posts a reply No, please not company XY, they are bad/they have done this and this which was bad/there CEO is a nasty guy etc.. Now if they find this in the archive (and as we saw in two cases, people [and probably also companies] do google for themselves and find them here), we can forget them as partners. Or a more realistic scenario: They simply won't like negotiations being archived in public. 3. We don't have a lot of time. If every tiny bit and decision will first be discussed here for weeks, we will not come through until next year... Therefore my proposal: We could create some teams [which could later be task groups = Arbeitsgruppen of Wikimedia CH] that deal with particular things and have a few members (say, 5 or so) and work via private email (you can send a mail to 5 people...). When they have reached a decision/solved a problem, they can still report to mailinglist at the end. Proposed teams: (just jotted down, feel free to add and change): ==Core team== (or: coordination team/lead team/whatever) This would be the kind of organizing committee as known. They have the overview over the whole situation, are the ones who'd also finally sign contracts if necessary with partners, look that the budget is not exceeded, and so on. ==PR and Media team== quite an important team: a) contact to Media, sending invitations to press etc., making press releases, etc. b) organising the advertising for the Wikipedia Day (in on-and offline agendas, newspapers, maybe create flyers and leaflets etc. c) looking for some kind of Internet site, if possible and time is there, either we start with www.wikimedia.ch already or we'd use www.wikipediaday.ch or whatever. ==Technical team== they do the technical stuff: If we have an internet website/a section on wikimedia.ch, they do the technical bits around it, i.e. put the things, PR and Media team wrote on the internet etc. further, they look, that everything is fine technically at the day itself, so they have to make sure, that beamers and pcs at ETH are working and they would help with the technical stuff at the event itself ==Location team== They are responsible for the location itself (connections to technical team), i.e. they decide whether we should have food/catering/snaks there, they look, that something to drink is available, they make sure, that we have really an information desk then, that we have a place, where speakers could prepare themselves, they look that the chairs etc. are organised nicely and so on ==Partners team== We have not really discussed this yet, but I think, we might still consider finding some sponsors (could be IT companies, but also, if you like better, governmental support or other foundations/associations/Stiftungen that would support us.) Because remember, if we want to have some nice flyers/leaflets and so on, and if we want catering, we might reach a point, where we'd quite like some money... BTW: I recently read at Chapters FAQ on Metawiki that Wikimedia Foundation on request also sometimes provides chapters with some start-up budget, so they could also look at this with Delphine etc. And, if we decide to go to a company and ask for money, this team would do the negotiations. ==Maybe Budget team== If we really get a lot of money (hm...), there might be a need for a finance and budget team. But that's not so sure yet.. I've also thrown this proposal at http://ch.wikimedia.org/wiki/Events/Wikipedia_Day_2006/Teams Now, please comment. You can deny the need for every team listed above, but I think you can't deny, that we need to get active now somehow, and that we cannot sit here until in some weeks or months Wikimedia CH will be formally created, because remember, even if we have final placet of Board, we still need to find a date for
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Rumantsch Grischun - summaryfor non-german-speakers
hi, you could also look into the fifa bylaws, they are in en, fr, de, and so on. another interesting thing is in these bylaws, which would very well apply to wikimedia too: the clause for dissolving the association. rupert. ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
Re: [Wikimediach-l] Translation
the understandable terms exist in german and english too :)
* stimmrecht, und wählbar
* right to vote (or suffrage), and eligible
rupert.
On 3/17/06, Frederic Schutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jürg Wolf wrote:
* active voting right = right to get a job within the corporation /
association
* passive voting right = right to vote for someone
Even the swiss constitution and the cantonal constitutions make differences
between these two rights.
Interesting... I did not know about these terms. There is nothing like
that in French, at least not litteraly: we say droit de vote (right to
vote) and éligibilité (the fact that someone can be elected).
To follow up on Jürg's links:
http://www.parlament.ch/f/homepage/sv-services-dummy/sv-ww-a-z/sv-ww-v.htm#sv-ww-v-Vote-droit-Anchor
http://www.parlament.ch/f/homepage/sv-services-dummy/sv-ww-a-z/sv-ww-e.htm#sv-ww-e-Eligibilit%E9-Anchor
I'll translate accordingly.
It looks to me like these terms are not that common in English either
(which does not mean that they are incorrect, of course) -- in any case,
the English Wikipedia does not know about them.
By the way, could a sysop add the template {{bylaws}} at the top of the
German bylaws ? It is very convenient when one is switching from one
version to the other while translating (thanks to Delphine 'Notafish'
for creating it).
Cheers,
Frederic
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[Wikimediach-l] immediate tax exemtion offer from redleo.org
hi, for helping wikipedia day redleo could offer immediate tax exemtion for any donation not earlier as 1.1.2005. we would only need one/two persons responsible for the bank account, maybe your candidate treasurers? this would have the advantage of immediate tax exemption, one of you responsible for the account, and no immediate time pressure for the swiss verein. do you think that makes sense? my access to mail is very limited until the 12 of march, so the chapter approval should be also here by then. rupert. (soloturn on de.wikipedia, soloturn99 on en.wikipedia, before 2 yrs anonymous) ps: redleo is a ngo helping with 3 things: * elearning: therefor projects as wikibooks are very important to us (therefor supporting wikipedia fits perfectly our goals) * cheap/free hardware * cheap/free communication ___ Wikimediach-l mailing list Wikimediach-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
