[Wikimediaindia-l] Input methods for mobile phones

2010-03-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I blogged about an issue that Bellayet introduced me to. He has to enter in
latin script data to trigger the search box on the
http://be.m.wikipedia.org.. As I can imagine that this is also an
issue for other languages of the
Indian subcontinent, I would like you to consider providing us with the
Unicode characters that are used for your language in the order you know
them by.

This should provide you improved support in the advanced toolbar and also
(this is my expectation) for the mobile interface.
Thanks,
 GerardM

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Popularising this list

2010-03-18 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hi all,
In the last meetup, some wikipedians felt that this list and several 
coordination avenues for Indian Wikipedias get perceived as only for English 
Wikipedia. To clear this misconception, we decided on the following course of 
action:
1. Popularising this list in all wikimedia projects (not just Wikipedia) across 
all Indian languages. I request Jyotis to use his shiny steward tools for this.
2. Meetup announcements etc. shall also be popularised similarly with a home in 
meta and simultaneous mirrors in wikis. Tinu, please take note of it.
Once we have a good representation, we ll forward important announcements to 
the respective language lists and village pumps, duly translated.
Sundar

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Academy - Malayalam - Bangalore 21st March 2009

2010-03-18 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
 Hi Wikipedians,
Wikipedia Academies are public outreach events aimed at engaging academics,
other subject-matter experts and anyone else who are not familiar with
Wikpedia/ wiki culture or online communities. In presentations and
workshops, experienced Wikipedia authors teach the participants how to
contribute to Wikipedia and orient the audience to Wikipedia’s structures
and community policies.
You can know more about WP Academies @
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy

Academies have been happening in India since some time, unofficially, thanks
to the humble efforts of many wikipedians.

Under the aegis of Bangalore Wikipedians, we recently had Sanskrit Wikipedia
Academy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1

The next academy session is on Malayalam Wikipedia
Date: 21 March 2010, 4 PM
Venue: Centre for Internet and Society, Cunningham Rd, Bangalore.

You can find more details at
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore_Wikipedia_Academy1
http://shijualex.blogspot.com/2010/03/blog-post_17.html

The sessions will be lead by Shiju Alex, Anoopan and Ramesh NG from
Malayalam Wikipedia.

You are cordially invited! Please spread the word !

Regards,
Tinu Cherian
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Academy - Malayalam - Bangalore 21st March 2010

2010-03-18 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Typo in the subject line !
Read the date as  *21st March 2010 *

-TC

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:20 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Wikipedians,
 Wikipedia Academies are public outreach events aimed at engaging academics,
 other subject-matter experts and anyone else who are not familiar with
 Wikpedia/ wiki culture or online communities. In presentations and
 workshops, experienced Wikipedia authors teach the participants how to
 contribute to Wikipedia and orient the audience to Wikipedia’s structures
 and community policies.
 You can know more about WP Academies @
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy

 Academies have been happening in India since some time, unofficially,
 thanks to the humble efforts of many wikipedians.

 Under the aegis of Bangalore Wikipedians, we recently had Sanskrit
 Wikipedia Academy
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1

 The next academy session is on Malayalam Wikipedia
 Date: 21 March 2010, 4 PM
 Venue: Centre for Internet and Society, Cunningham Rd, Bangalore.

 You can find more details at
 http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangalore_Wikipedia_Academy1
 http://shijualex.blogspot.com/2010/03/blog-post_17.html

 The sessions will be lead by Shiju Alex, Anoopan and Ramesh NG from
 Malayalam Wikipedia.

 You are cordially invited! Please spread the word !

 Regards,
 Tinu Cherian





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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Input methods for mobile phones

2010-03-18 Thread Shiju Alex
Hi Gerard,

We (Malayalam Wikipedians) have asked about this some time back. Please see
a discussion regarding that here
http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolbar#Malayalam_transliteration_Script

Shiju



On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hoi,
 I blogged about an issue that Bellayet introduced me to. He has to enter in
 latin script data to trigger the search box on the
 http://be.m.wikipedia.org .. As I can imagine that this is also an issue
 for other languages of the Indian subcontinent, I would like you to consider
 providing us with the Unicode characters that are used for your language in
 the order you know them by.

 This should provide you improved support in the advanced toolbar and also
 (this is my expectation) for the mobile interface.
 Thanks,
  GerardM


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Input methods for mobile phones

2010-03-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
There is a difference between a transliteration script and an alternate
input method.

In an alternate inputmethod you select characters from the screen. In my
understanding something like an transliteration script is what Bellayet is
using..
Thanks,
GerardM

PS I cc to Hampton as he is the guy who has to understand this :)

On 18 March 2010 16:05, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Gerard,

 We (Malayalam Wikipedians) have asked about this some time back. Please see
 a discussion regarding that here
 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolbar#Malayalam_transliteration_Script

 Shiju



 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen 
 gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hoi,
 I blogged about an issue that Bellayet introduced me to. He has to enter
 in latin script data to trigger the search box on the
 http://be.m.wikipedia.org .. As I can imagine that this is also an issue
 for other languages of the Indian subcontinent, I would like you to consider
 providing us with the Unicode characters that are used for your language in
 the order you know them by.

 This should provide you improved support in the advanced toolbar and
 also (this is my expectation) for the mobile interface.
 Thanks,
  GerardM


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Input methods for mobile phones

2010-03-18 Thread Praveen Prakash
Gerard Meijssen wrote:
 Hoi,
 There is a difference between a transliteration script and an 
 alternate input method.

 In an alternate inputmethod you select characters from the screen. In 
 my understanding something like an transliteration script is what 
 Bellayet is using..
 Thanks,
 GerardM

 PS I cc to Hampton as he is the guy who has to understand this :)
Hi,
I believe once I sent all Malayalam Characters for this purpose. ;-)

PraveenP

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Input methods for mobile phones

2010-03-18 Thread Shiju Alex
In fact we are looking for some solution to input Malayalam text in the
search box that is available in Malayalam Mobile wiki (
http://ml.m.wikipedia.org/).

Currently there is no way to input malayalam text there and navigate to a
particular article.


Shiju

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gerard Meijssen wrote:
  Hoi,
  There is a difference between a transliteration script and an
  alternate input method.
 
  In an alternate inputmethod you select characters from the screen. In
  my understanding something like an transliteration script is what
  Bellayet is using..
  Thanks,
  GerardM
 
  PS I cc to Hampton as he is the guy who has to understand this :)
 Hi,
 I believe once I sent all Malayalam Characters to Gerard Meijssen for
 this purpose. ;-)

 PraveenP

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Input methods for mobile phones

2010-03-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
I did get a list of characters from Praveen and, I have communicated with
the likes of Brion about it. Sadly there is only so much that I can do. If
there is one thing I want to prevent is that people consider me a ¨toxic
personality, a risk you run when you are trying to hard.

The list I asked from Bellayet is in the standard order as people expect
them I am told. I am not so sure of the list I received from Praveen as the
vowels and the consonants are separate..

Anyway, it turns out that they are also looking for a Vietnamese input
method..

What I can tell you is that it is best to work together, even find
programmers if we can and be nice, friendly but persistent in order to
achieve our goal. The good news is that Wikipedia on the mobile is
considered a priority!!

The other thing is, we are concentrating at the moment on getting Wikipedia
right, there are however many websites outside of the WMF that would benefit
from a proper input method. To get this we need cooperation from the
manufacturers of mobile phones. This is why I have set up a Facebook cause
called Enable Wikipedias on the mobile phone. If you are on Facebook, I
will really appreciate it if you make this your cause as well.
Thanks,
  GerardM

http://apps.facebook.com/causes/459276?m=d6264c60


On 18 March 2010 16:41, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

 In fact we are looking for some solution to input Malayalam text in the
 search box that is available in Malayalam Mobile wiki (
 http://ml.m.wikipedia.org/).

 Currently there is no way to input malayalam text there and navigate to a
 particular article.


 Shiju

 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gerard Meijssen wrote:
  Hoi,
  There is a difference between a transliteration script and an
  alternate input method.
 
  In an alternate inputmethod you select characters from the screen. In
  my understanding something like an transliteration script is what
  Bellayet is using..
  Thanks,
  GerardM
 
  PS I cc to Hampton as he is the guy who has to understand this :)
 Hi,
 I believe once I sent all Malayalam Characters to Gerard Meijssen for
 this purpose. ;-)

 PraveenP

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Please provide input for the strategic planning process!

2010-03-18 Thread Ganesh Krishnamurthy
Philippe/WMF posted this message on the Indian language Wikipedias. I
am cross posting it here to get wider audience:

This message is posted by Philippe
(http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Philippe_(WMF)), on behalf of
Tyler, from the Bridgespan Group:

My name is User:TylerT
(http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:TylerT), and I am a member of
the team from the Bridgespan Group that has been working with the
Wikimedia Foundation throughout its strategic planning process.  As
you may have heard, as part of this process the Foundation has decided
to experiment with making short-term investments to put staff on the
ground and help grow readership and participation across the Wikimedia
projects and languages in a few high-priority places.  The idea of
this pilot program is to determine what works, and what doesn't, and
document those findings. India is one of the places that is being
considered, and we would appreciate any help in understanding the
following:

# What has the Indian Wikimedia Community done in the past year to
increase readership and participation?
# What plans do the Indian Wikimedia Community have to continue to
work on increasing readership and participation?
# What are the greatest challenges the Indian Wikimedia Community
faces in increasing readership and participation?
# How could the Foundation help?
# If the Foundation were to put staff on the ground in India, where
would it make the most sense for them to be located?
# Is there anything else the Foundation should consider when deciding
whether or not to put staff on the ground in India?

You can leave comments for me here, or on my talk page on the strategy
wiki (http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TylerT), or by
emailing strat...@wikimedia.org.

Thanks in advance for your help!
User:TylerT

PS - please translate and distribute this message to anyone who may be
interested!

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