Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com Dear All, I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*. Congratulations to the vibrant Malayalam community on this important milestone. Best wishes for future. With almost 250 active editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30) among all theIndian wikis. --snip-- *Number of edits per article measure* may not be meaningful comparison, when comparing wikipedias, as each language wikipedia follows its own policies with regard to stub articles. Thanks for the statistics on the language wikipedias. Cheers Arjun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-in-blr] Wiki Mysore Photowalk
Forwarding the announcement about Mysore photowalk on 30th January, 2011. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kiran Ravikumar Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-in-blr] Wiki Mysore Photowalk Wikipedia celebrated its 10th anniversary on 15th January 11. The Wiki enthusiasts in Mysore organised a meet up on the 16th of Jan 2011 to commemorate this occasion. http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysore Also we had a plan to have Wikipedia Photowalk. So on 30th January we've organised a Photowalk here in Mysore. The locations planned to cover is city center (Palace, Town hall, etc) We'll meet near Chikka Gadiyaara (Vasavi vircle) [near south gate of Devraja Market] at 7 AM. Regards, Kiran Ravikumar Mysore http://www.flickr.com/photos/kirantr/ -- Hari Prasad Nadig http://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hpnadig http://flickr.com/hpnadig ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : Gulfnews : Five questions to Sue Gardner
[Press] : Gulfnews : Five questions to Sue Gardner http://gulfnews.com/business/media-marketing/connection-five-questions-to-sue-gardner-1.752627 *What is your expectation for the first office in India?* *Our office in India will be the first time the Wikimedia Foundation has opened an official presence outside the United States. We're doing it because there's enormous potential there for us to recruit new Wikipedia editors to help write Wikipedia in the several dozen languages that are widely spoken in India. It's experimental for us. If we're successful in recruiting new Wikipedia editors in India, we will try the same tactics in other parts of the world.* Regards Tinu Cherian http://wikimedia.in/wiki/In_the_news#January_2011 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam Wikipedia doesn't though... -Tinu Cherian On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: *Number of edits per article measure* may not be meaningful comparison, when comparing wikipedias, as each language wikipedia follows its own policies with regard to stub articles. Great. Arjuna, Kindly share the policy of Telugu Wikipedia with regard to stub articles. I am sure other Indian language wikipedias will benefit from it. Shiju On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote: 2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com Dear All, I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*. Congratulations to the vibrant Malayalam community on this important milestone. Best wishes for future. With almost 250 active editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30) among all theIndian wikis. --snip-- *Number of edits per article measure* may not be meaningful comparison, when comparing wikipedias, as each language wikipedia follows its own policies with regard to stub articles. Thanks for the statistics on the language wikipedias. Cheers Arjun ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
Its not just about stubs. We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. According to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias *Depths above 300 for Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. * When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Ravi On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam Wikipedia doesn't though... -Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. That happens in all the wikipedias which has an active community. That might also be possible with the the Google translation project. In general, quality of a wiki article improves as more people work on it. More edits from more number of users means more quality on the wiki article. Otherwise there is no difference between a knol/blogpost and a wiki article. :) *Depths above 300 for Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. * Who has mentioned about the depth in the below mail? When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Yes. All wikis has stubs and almost of the articles are created as stub articles. Shiju On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Its not just about stubs. We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. According to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias *Depths above 300 for Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. * When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Ravi On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam Wikipedia doesn't though... -Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
Although page depth was not really connected with the current trend, Personally, I think page depth is *no longer a reliable* metric for comparison, here is why I think so. Assamese Wikipedia ( 312 articles) : page depth is 339 . Sindi ( 355 articles): 381 Compare this with Bengali ( 22,062 articles) : 374 Malayalam ( 16,414 articles) : 320 It is self-explanatory... Technically 1 million edits is a cute milestone ( congrats to ml wiki) to take notice, but we cannot consider it as real metric for comparison among Wikipedias. There are language Wikipedias where Google translation/Machine translations or bot created articles are banned or controlled tightly. There are Wikipedias, where they have a free run. Please note that I am not saying taht they are either good or bad. There are Wikipedias where constant updation of articles happening, due a vibrant Wikicommunity. There are Wikipedians who like to work on the articles offline and then bring it live with a single edit. Having said that, it is advisable to do what each community feels best for their language Wikipedia. Of course, it is good to have an healthy competition :) But everybody, please do continue to report such interesting milestones and statistics. We all love that... -Tinu Cherian On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote: We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. That happens in all the wikipedias which has an active community. That might also be possible with the the Google translation project. In general, quality of a wiki article improves as more people work on it. More edits from more number of users means more quality on the wiki article. Otherwise there is no difference between a knol/blogpost and a wiki article. :) *Depths above 300 for Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. * Who has mentioned about the depth in the below mail? When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Yes. All wikis has stubs and almost of the articles are created as stub articles. Shiju On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.comwrote: Its not just about stubs. We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. According to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias *Depths above 300 for Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. * When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Ravi On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam Wikipedia doesn't though... -Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:45 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Technically 1 million edits is a cute milestone ( congrats to ml wiki) +1 Congratulations! :) anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:45 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Although page depth was not really connected with the current trend, Personally, I think page depth is *no longer a reliable* metric for comparison, here is why I think so. Assamese Wikipedia ( 312 articles) : page depth is 339 . Sindi ( 355 articles): 381 Compare this with Bengali ( 22,062 articles) : 374 Malayalam ( 16,414 articles) : 320 It is self-explanatory... Technically 1 million edits is a cute milestone ( congrats to ml wiki) to take notice, but we cannot consider it as real metric for comparison among Wikipedias. There are language Wikipedias where Google translation/Machine translations or bot created articles are banned or controlled tightly. There are Wikipedias, where they have a free run. Please note that I am not saying taht they are either good or bad. There are Wikipedias where constant updation of articles happening, due a vibrant Wikicommunity. There are Wikipedians who like to work on the articles offline and then bring it live with a single edit. Having said that, it is advisable to do what each community feels best for their language Wikipedia. Of course, it is good to have an healthy competition :) But everybody, please do continue to report such interesting milestones and statistics. We all love that.. Agree with Tinu. Congratulations on the progress though. Indeed, it is good to have healthy competition. -- Hari Prasad Nadig http://hpnadig.net | http://twitter.com/hpnadig http://flickr.com/hpnadig ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] The Hindu : One among the clan of Wikipedians
The Hindu : One among the clan of Wikipedians, featuring Achal Prabhala http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-neighbourhood/article1128553.ece Regards Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone
+1. Yes, milestones are nice things to celebrate, but not something to start regarding as a metric. - Sundar That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted. - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture From: CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 11:45:17 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone Although page depth was not really connected with the current trend, Personally, I think page depth is no longer a reliable metric for comparison, here is why I think so. Assamese Wikipedia ( 312 articles) : page depth is 339 . Sindi ( 355 articles): 381 Compare this with Bengali ( 22,062 articles) : 374 Malayalam ( 16,414 articles) : 320 It is self-explanatory... Technically 1 million edits is a cute milestone ( congrats to ml wiki) to take notice, but we cannot consider it as real metric for comparison among Wikipedias. There are language Wikipedias where Google translation/Machine translations or bot created articles are banned or controlled tightly. There are Wikipedias, where they have a free run. Please note that I am not saying taht they are either good or bad. There are Wikipedias where constant updation of articles happening, due a vibrant Wikicommunity. There are Wikipedians who like to work on the articles offline and then bring it live with a single edit. Having said that, it is advisable to do what each community feels best for their language Wikipedia. Of course, it is good to have an healthy competition :) But everybody, please do continue to report such interesting milestones and statistics. We all love that... -Tinu Cherian On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. That happens in all the wikipedias which has an active community. That might also be possible with the the Google translation project. In general, quality of a wiki article improves as more people work on it. More edits from more number of users means more quality on the wiki article. Otherwise there is no difference between a knol/blogpost and a wiki article. :) Depths above 300 for Wikipedias below 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. Who has mentioned about the depth in the below mail? When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Yes. All wikis has stubs and almost of the articles are created as stub articles. Shiju On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Its not just about stubs. We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. According to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias Depths above 300 for Wikipedias below 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant. When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. Ravi On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam Wikipedia doesn't though... -Tinu Cherian ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
