Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report
Hey, it turned up the following articles for me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharani_Kishori (B class) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_of_Karnataka (B class) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ropalidia_marginata (B class) Not Good articles at all. Sincerely, Ashwin On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I have done some blogging about the Chennai hackathon. Really good news is that one of the tools, the Random Good WP India article tool is now available on line at srik.me/WPIndia. OMG! I love this. The first article that turned up when I clicked on the link was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu–German_Conspiracy ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 16:22, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, it turned up the following articles for me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharani_Kishori (B class) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_of_Karnataka (B class) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ropalidia_marginata (B class) Not Good articles at all. From the original mail. It is a simple tool that shows you one B, A, GA or FA article every time you go there. Its Good as in good for reading, not necessarily GA -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chennai Unofficial Wikimedia Hackathon Report
he he he, you fooled us! Ashwin On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 16:22, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, it turned up the following articles for me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharani_Kishori (B class) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_of_Karnataka (B class) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ropalidia_marginata (B class) Not Good articles at all. From the original mail. It is a simple tool that shows you one B, A, GA or FA article every time you go there. Its Good as in good for reading, not necessarily GA -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wiki Media Contest -- Results
Congratuations to all the winners. The content gained thru this contest is a treat to many of us. A lot of the pictures are a treat to our eyes, and a lot of the media files were brilliant. I hope the en wiki community joins me in making use of these files on the English Wikipedia and that the other communities follow suite. --Re, Rsrikanth05 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, We are happy to announce the results of Tamil Wiki Media Contest[1]. The competition was brutal.(Hence the mild delay in announcing results) Thousands of high quality files were uploaded for the contest. In order to award prizes to maximum no of entries/contestants as possible, we have increased the number of prizes. The files that made it to the final round but didn't win ultimately were very very close to those that actually won (in marks basis). Of those the top 100 can be viewed here[2] A detailed report and blog post will be ready by next week. Thanks for your support. [1] http://tawp.in/r/33y1 [2] http://tawp.in/r/33zx -- Coordinators, TWMC ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Tamil_Wikimedians/TamilWiki_Media_Contest#Team_members_.28optional.29 ) ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Open letter to the Indian Wikimedia community
*For example, questioning the hiring rationale of the WMF India programs is simply wrong. .* I Strongly disagree.* * Anything that the India Programs team does directly affects us. It may not have affected you in Tamil, but it has affected the English Wikipedia, and has done so strongly. An example is the IEP, which involved the concentrated efforts of not just the Online Ambassadors, but VARIOUS non Indian editors as well. As such, the community has every right to question an action of both the IP team/trust and the Chapter. * * *-*-Re, Rsrikanth05* * On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I have been watching the list silently for last few months, have discussed with some of the active members in the community and here is what I feel: *To the community:* * There is simply too much noise and politics in this list. I got so fed up that I chose to receive no mails for some time. Please be aware that this list is also followed by global community due to the global south strategy's significance. Should I request that we can behave better? * WMF India programs, Wikimedia India chapter and the Indian Wikimedia community are autonomous entities each answerable to their own framework. The community can express its requirements, give feedback and point out when the chapter and WMF India programs can do better but we cannot imagine us to be in a position to control each and every detail of their activity. For example, questioning the hiring rationale of the WMF India programs is simply wrong. Do we interfere on such things with the global WMF? Then why do so with India operations? Such things are completely within the autonomy of the organization. If we need something from the chapter, let us join it and participate. If we need something from the WMF India Programs, let us voice it officially. For example, Shiju was asking for project proposals from each Indic Wikipedia community village pump. That will be the best place to partner with WMF India programs. Not the mailing list. If something can't be done by WMF India programs, then let us request a grant. Unless the community is cleary impacted in a negative way, criticising every activity of the WMF India programs even before they start can only shatter their morale. * I don't know the value of the match-stick impact of the first Wiki conference India. But, let me wait for its report to see if its really worth the lakhs and lakhs of Rupees spent on it. Until then, I am not so keen on an annual Wiki conference of the same scale. Let us do the real work in Wikipedias and improve them instead of spending our time in mailing lists. *To the chapter and the WMF India programs:* I expect something bigger and grander from both of these organizations. They should undertake work that the community can't do by itself or which doesn't require the community work at all. Example: Making strategic partnerships with academic, knowlege, corporate and Govt. institutions for non-IEP purposes. This could be acquisition of archives under free license or partnering with media / mobile phone companies to distribute Wiki content. Right now, there is too much overlap on who does what that ultimately most of the community work is claimed as work done by chapter or the India programs. We don't require a chapter or India programs to do what the community was already doing by itself. At least, I don't see how this can justify their annual budgets. One personal request: I see that too much of your time is wasted in the mailing list. Be BOLD, communicate / clarify only when required and to the minimum. Just implement better and bigger programs and delight the community with good results. Thanks, Ravi ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiConference India 2012 - Bootstrap Team
*I didn't know the passion for continued volunteering for the Wikimedia movement was dependent on the availability of the videos of the WikiConference :P ( We should definitely add that as one of the key expectations for next Conference) * * * Well Tinu, us non attendees, would like to see WHAT HAPPENED last time, so that if we are part of the next team, we'd know what we have to do.* * And yes, I ask the same Question as Ashwin, which communities are involved? On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:46 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: I didn't know the passion for continued volunteering for the Wikimedia movement was dependent on the availability of the videos of the WikiConference :P ( We should definitely add that as one of the key expectations for next Conference) The fact that those who didn't attend last time was their own personal choice again. No one can predict they will attend next Conference , not even all those who attended the conference last year. BTW Personally I would love to see the videos soon. I couldn't attend all the sessions :D -TC On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Tinu, whether the videos and reports are out or not, the fact of the matter is that not many of those who didn't attend last time know what happened and this may result in noone volunteering. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Caravan article: Fact Check
I really didn't like the write up at all. It seemed a bit sarcastic. Not something that would help our movement will it? On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Here http://caravanmagazine.in/Story.aspx?StoryId=1345 is a story by this reporter who attended the Delhi meet up. Caravan folks had been contacting us for a while regarding 'Wikipedia meet ups' and finally their reporter Krishn landed up at the 7th meet up. Just a heads up, these are entirely his observations and even the quotes are not verbatim. He's paraphrased what he heard us say. Subha will agree. Anyway, it's a good piece on an outsider's perspective of Wikipedia outreach. Also, it happens almost always that journalists are clueless about the Wiki universe and end up misquoting facts, figures, terms. Maybe a journalist outreach session or inviting them to attend an entire editing session could remedy this? [1] http://caravanmagazine.in/Story.aspx?StoryId=1345 -- *FACT CHECK: Krishn Kaushik* *BALADEVAN RANGARAJAN m**oved his brown beanbag to the centre of the room, closer to the round wooden table on which lay a Macbook. He wasn’t well acquainted with the laptop’s keyboard, so he used a wireless one instead. A wall-mounted flat screen TV transmitted the Macbook’s display to a gathering of 14 seated around the unadorned room.* *The first step, he instructed the attendees, was to create a Wikipedia account. It was this year’s first summertime meeting for Wikipedia Meetup Delhi (WMD7, to be exact), and most in attendance were newcomers. Launched in 2010, the meetups have helped train aspiring Wikipedians in Delhi the art of editing Wikipedia entries about India. * * While registering for an account, Rangarajan tried typing ‘baladevan’ for his username twice—but a prompt informed him that it was already being used by someone else. He tried ‘baladevan.rangarajan’ next, and this time the system accepted. Asked by the website to introduce himself to other Wikipedia users in the form of a short description, Rangarajan, with side-parted hair and thick eyebrows that slope inwards, typed that he was a public policy researcher who “loves kids and freedom”. Sweet and grand. With the formality over, Rangarajan opened his first Wikipedia page as an editor: one about Pav Bhaji. The opening sentence read: “‘Pav Bhaji’ (Marathi) is a fast food dish that originated in Marathi cuisine, and is native to Maharashtra and is popular in most metropolitan areas in India, particularly in Gujarat.” Suspicious, he noted that Pav Bhaji is not just famous in the metropolitan areas of Gujarat, but in cities in central and western India more generally. He confirmed his claim by citing Retail Franchising, a Tata McGraw Hill publication he found on Google Books that talks about the food’s popularity in central India. After all, for facts to hold, they require reliable sources. And so he rephrased the sentence: “Pav Bhaji (Marathi) is a fast food dish that originated in Marathi cuisine. It is native to Maharashtra and is popular in most metropolitan areas in India, especially in those of central and western Indian states such as Gujarat.” Much better; everybody else agreed. Rangarajan had just established a fact internationally. And, now, nobody would doubt it. The Wikipedia Foundation’s office, where Rangarajan had established Pav Bhaji’s regional specificity, is situated in a non-descript building in Hauz Khas. On a door three floors above the street, a wooden nameplate—each letter framed in a small wooden square—reads WIKIPEDIA. Inside are two rooms each with white walls and five workstations: airy and minimalist like the website. The foundation currently has five people on staff, two of which were at the meetup: Subhashish and Nupur. “We belong to diverse backgrounds,” Subhashish had said before the meetup began when there were only four people in the room. Of the 15 Wikipedians present by the end of the session, at least 11 had been trained as engineers, including Subhashish. Noopur said that women were underrepresented in the community globally—there were just three present at WMD7. “Thank god! We would have articles about shades of lipsticks otherwise,” blurted Abhishek, a lanky man with a goatee. Wikipedia was too serious to be “pink” for him. An engineering student from Ghaziabad, he described himself as a “write[r]” of poetry and philosophy, on his Wiki profile. “I have learnt everything from Wikipedia. More than from anyone else,” he added. As the group focused on the TV screen, which displayed the procedure to establish Pav Bhaji’s popularity in particular parts of India, a plump man with nascent whiskers—Roboture in his Wikipedian avatar—was surfing for more items to edit. An engineer from Jamia Millia Islamia, he surveyed the pages for ‘Poha’, ‘Dahi Bhalla’ and ‘Flattened Rice’, among others, but changed nothing. It had been
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] My post to User:Prad2609
Guys, Just to let you know: Pradeep and I spoke to each other last night. He says he wants to take a break from Wikipedia. He told me that the mail [the one about the trust and AGF] was NOT the reason he left, and that it was a much larger issue. I inquired if it could affect anyone else, in which case, I'd like to help fix it, but he said that it was nothing major. Please do not criticise his actions, let us respect the man and his decisions for now. He said he may be back in six months, I'm being positive. But till then, let's just wait and leave him in peace. Cheers, Rsrikanth05 On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: The issue is a bit serious. A contributor, no matter who or where they come from, somehow or the other impacts another editors contributions. There have been numerous instances of non Indians helping out with Indian pages. We need to give more thought to editor retention. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Caravan article: Fact Check
On 31 March 2012 22:51, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: I really didn't like the write up at all. It seemed a bit sarcastic. Not something that would help our movement will it? Not something we can control, no? That's the way the media rolls. And it's not that we can do without them either. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Special Characters toolbar - is it useful in your language?
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 14:46, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi Wikimedians in India, Recently i've been making improvements to the enhanced editing toolbar, and especially to its Special Characters functionality. Great! Tamil isn't there in the extension, but I have some feedback / questions. Does this aim to replace on-screen-keyboard? IMHO its highly unfriendly to type a name/anything for that matter using it. Its best suited for the purpose it intended for, i.e Special Characters and should not contain entire char set(at least when Narayam is available, that should predominantly be the input method). It would be suitable to have actual special characters which either don't have key mappings on Narayam / other standard input methods or those which people don't use frequently and hence might not remember. Example, I would like Tamil numerals[1] which lack a way in most input methods to be on this toolbar rather than the entire Tamil char set. I see Telugu, Bengali already have their char set, and Marathi filed a bug[2], but the list of languages / order isn't configurable per project, which means if Marathi gets added tomorrow, they have to scroll down the list and is unlikely to be very usable at least in Marathi projects since few people may scroll down and use it to input. Other than being a first class citizen and being up within the editor, what difference does this have against Mediawiki:Edittools ? [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Script#Numerals_and_symbols [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35112 -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Special Characters toolbar - is it useful in your language?
2012/3/31 Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 14:46, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi Wikimedians in India, Recently i've been making improvements to the enhanced editing toolbar, and especially to its Special Characters functionality. Great! Tamil isn't there in the extension, but I have some feedback / questions. It was built into the editing toolbar with the release of the Vector skin in early 2010. I don't really know how were the scripts and the characters chosen for inclusion back then, but evidently it's not perfect. If you want to add Tamil, please open a bug about it or just patch WikiEditor/modules/jquery.wikiEditor.toolbar.js Does this aim to replace on-screen-keyboard? Absolutely not. If anything, an on-screen keyboard will replace this toolbar for most uses, although the toolbar will probably remain as a simple last resort thing. It should be (kinda) complete and usable, but it's not supposed to be perfectly convenient. It would be suitable to have actual special characters which either don't have key mappings on Narayam / other standard input methods or those which people don't use frequently and hence might not remember. It's OK to have all the characters there and not just the very special characters, as long as the regular characters are not getting in the way the special characters too much. It's supposed to be useful for people who know what they want to type, but don't know how to type it. For example, if you are comfortable typing Tamil using Narayam or a keyboard layout that your operating system provides, and you want to use this toolbar to type some rare Tamil characters that are not found in your usual layout, and it's inconvenient because it has too many characters and the character that you need is hard to find, then this is a bug that should be filed under the WikiEditor extension. (The example is of course imaginary, because Tamil is not supported at all.) I see Telugu, Bengali already have their char set, and Marathi filed a bug[2], Marathi is already supposed to be supported in the Devanagari section. If the Devanagari section is not good enough for Marathi, then it is a bug. The bug to which you are pointing is proposing to use this toolbar in a very different way. That will be addressed in a different extension that is being designed now. but the list of languages / order isn't configurable per project, which means if Marathi gets added tomorrow, they have to scroll down the list and is unlikely to be very usable at least in Marathi projects since few people may scroll down and use it to input. It's useful to have all the languages in all the projects, although some customization may be convenient. For example, putting the scripts that are most useful for a certain project at the top. If anybody has ideas for that, then that's exactly the kind of thing that i want to hear. Other than being a first class citizen and being up within the editor, what difference does this have against Mediawiki:Edittools ? Edittools is too customizable - it doesn't offer anything out of the box. So every project that uses, has something different. Some projects copy the configuration from friendly projects (Ukrainian from Russian, for example). It's actually a very interesting process to learn, because it may tell a thing or two about the needs of every language. And of course, don't underestimate the first class citizen part :) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
