Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiWomenCamp and WikiGenero-Buenos Aires, Participation
thank you for the report, netha! hopefully, we'll see more women participation focused workshops and meetups coming up in your hometown soon! ;-) best, anirudh On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote: Hola! Greetings from Buenos Aires! I am User: Netha Hussain (1), writing from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I was lucky to represent India in the WikiWomenCamp (2) and WikiGenero held here from 23-26 May 2012. My travel and accommodation were sponsored by Wikimedia Germany and Wikimedia Austria. The past four days had been fabulous, and I enjoyed being in the company of amazing women from different parts of the world. The conference was held in open space format with no agenda. Open space technology is called the 'wiki-way' of conducting conference as ideas are created by the way of discussing in groups and accepting contributions from all participants. I loved this, and I think we must try and use this methodology in Indian conferences too. We discussed about many issues which are primarily of concern to women, including mapping gender issues, edit-wars, GLAM, attracting women to Wikiprojects etc (3). We learned about the many projects launched in different countries for the increasing the participation of women in administration. I could present the Indian perspective of issues at the conference. Most participants were amazed to know about the diversity of Indian languages. I also spoke about the WikiConf-Mumbai 2011 and the results of the gendergap session organized in the conference. The working of the chapter was also explained, but it was disappointing to reveal that we did not have had any women member in the chapter ever since. We created a private mailing list for women to get support when dealing with harassment, took steps to create WikiChix, decided to print books on perspectives of women in various countries and discussed about conducting a WikiWomencamp with more participants the coming year. At WikiGenero which happened on 26th May, Sue Gardner delivered a keynote address which was very inspiring. The news about the camp was published in local newspapers. The notes are available on meta and photos on commons(4). At the conference, I could build contacts with many women from different parts of the world. I could learn many new things could also share my knowledge. It was a highly rewarding experience. (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain (2) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp (3) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp/Agenda (4) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiWomenCamp_2012 Gracias! Sincerely Netha Hussain -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiWomenCamp and WikiGenero-Buenos Aires, Participation
Thank you, Bishakha and Anirudh. We missed the presence of a Board of Trustee member here. I shall be very happy to share my experiences with you in detail. The other participants and chapters have also extended their help in launching gender sensitive projects in India. I will be writing my experiences in detail on my personal blogs also. We have already got an offer from a Public library in Kerala to conduct an outreach program. Will try to get more women into it! Netha On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: thank you for the report, netha! hopefully, we'll see more women participation focused workshops and meetups coming up in your hometown soon! ;-) best, anirudh On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote: Hola! Greetings from Buenos Aires! I am User: Netha Hussain (1), writing from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I was lucky to represent India in the WikiWomenCamp (2) and WikiGenero held here from 23-26 May 2012. My travel and accommodation were sponsored by Wikimedia Germany and Wikimedia Austria. The past four days had been fabulous, and I enjoyed being in the company of amazing women from different parts of the world. The conference was held in open space format with no agenda. Open space technology is called the 'wiki-way' of conducting conference as ideas are created by the way of discussing in groups and accepting contributions from all participants. I loved this, and I think we must try and use this methodology in Indian conferences too. We discussed about many issues which are primarily of concern to women, including mapping gender issues, edit-wars, GLAM, attracting women to Wikiprojects etc (3). We learned about the many projects launched in different countries for the increasing the participation of women in administration. I could present the Indian perspective of issues at the conference. Most participants were amazed to know about the diversity of Indian languages. I also spoke about the WikiConf-Mumbai 2011 and the results of the gendergap session organized in the conference. The working of the chapter was also explained, but it was disappointing to reveal that we did not have had any women member in the chapter ever since. We created a private mailing list for women to get support when dealing with harassment, took steps to create WikiChix, decided to print books on perspectives of women in various countries and discussed about conducting a WikiWomencamp with more participants the coming year. At WikiGenero which happened on 26th May, Sue Gardner delivered a keynote address which was very inspiring. The news about the camp was published in local newspapers. The notes are available on meta and photos on commons(4). At the conference, I could build contacts with many women from different parts of the world. I could learn many new things could also share my knowledge. It was a highly rewarding experience. (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain (2) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp (3) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp/Agenda (4) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiWomenCamp_2012 Gracias! Sincerely Netha Hussain -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] For Netha Re: Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 179, Issue 1
] WikiWomenCamp and WikiGenero-Buenos Aires, Participation Message-ID: CAFYF+Go=0ct0k_eejszhrwt+z0nnd1gwxyoy7owmpvguyik...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Hola! Greetings from Buenos Aires! I am User: Netha Hussain (1), writing from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I was lucky to represent India in the WikiWomenCamp (2) and WikiGenero held here from 23-26 May 2012. My travel and accommodation were sponsored by Wikimedia Germany and Wikimedia Austria. The past four days had been fabulous, and I enjoyed being in the company of amazing women from different parts of the world. Am so glad you could be there - after seeing the photos, I'm even more regretful I couldn't attend! I would very much like to hear in greater detail the ideas that came up at the camp. Do get in touch when you're back - let's see how we can seriously take this forward in India. Cheers Bishakha -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20120527/470c478e/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 10:49:26 +0530 From: Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] on WCI, the report, and more Message-ID: cafyf+gqym7-xqwpjc99bc30nqp+dwgvfcqp5g2quk+3sqs1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bishakha I am not sure if you are intentionally leaving out Pranav or if that was an oversight. Not sure what you mean - could you clarify? I don't know how you can think reporting itself was the problem, I'm really confused how you formed that impression. We can of course, start lying, avoid any cautionary tales and keep repeating all is great, or you can actually confront the situation. Hey, I'm never in favour of whitewashing, ignoring or turning a blind eye to shortcomings - but it is important to be constructive in giving feedback and to take personal responsibility as well. I'm totally in favour of all that, as is evident from my questions. Certainly not advocating 'no reporting'; I'm in favour of strengthening the reporting. If, as Srikanth suggests, others who worked on WCI 2011 write in with their comments and suggestions, this would help greatly in analysing what worked, what didn't, and what we can carry with us to the next conf. Cheers Bishakha -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/attachments/20120527/30b16f34/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 12:37:14 +0530 From: Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiWomenCamp and WikiGenero-Buenos Aires, Participation Message-ID: CAFzy5QHNoq=cVq_QE0Fr=ibu52ozkjefoi9y4-2jq1_m4wg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 thank you for the report, netha! hopefully, we'll see more women participation focused workshops and meetups coming up in your hometown soon! ;-) best, anirudh On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Hola! Greetings from Buenos Aires! I am User: Netha Hussain (1), writing from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I was lucky to represent India in the WikiWomenCamp (2) and WikiGenero held here from 23-26 May 2012. My travel and accommodation were sponsored by Wikimedia Germany and Wikimedia Austria. The past four days had been fabulous, and I enjoyed being in the company of amazing women from different parts of the world. The conference was held in open space format with no agenda. Open space technology is called the 'wiki-way' of conducting conference as ideas are created by the way of discussing in groups and accepting contributions from all participants. I loved this, and I think we must try and use this methodology in Indian conferences too. We discussed about many issues which are primarily of concern to women, including mapping gender issues, edit-wars, GLAM, attracting women to Wikiprojects etc (3). We learned about the many projects launched in different countries for the increasing the participation of women in administration. I could present the Indian perspective of issues at the conference. Most participants were amazed to know about the diversity of Indian languages. I also spoke about the WikiConf-Mumbai 2011 and the results of the gendergap session organized in the conference. The working of the chapter was also
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiWomenCamp and WikiGenero-Buenos Aires, Participation
Excellent work Netha. Keep inspiring us with your awesome work! On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you, Bishakha and Anirudh. We missed the presence of a Board of Trustee member here. I shall be very happy to share my experiences with you in detail. The other participants and chapters have also extended their help in launching gender sensitive projects in India. I will be writing my experiences in detail on my personal blogs also. We have already got an offer from a Public library in Kerala to conduct an outreach program. Will try to get more women into it! Netha On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: thank you for the report, netha! hopefully, we'll see more women participation focused workshops and meetups coming up in your hometown soon! ;-) best, anirudh On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote: Hola! Greetings from Buenos Aires! I am User: Netha Hussain (1), writing from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I was lucky to represent India in the WikiWomenCamp (2) and WikiGenero held here from 23-26 May 2012. My travel and accommodation were sponsored by Wikimedia Germany and Wikimedia Austria. The past four days had been fabulous, and I enjoyed being in the company of amazing women from different parts of the world. The conference was held in open space format with no agenda. Open space technology is called the 'wiki-way' of conducting conference as ideas are created by the way of discussing in groups and accepting contributions from all participants. I loved this, and I think we must try and use this methodology in Indian conferences too. We discussed about many issues which are primarily of concern to women, including mapping gender issues, edit-wars, GLAM, attracting women to Wikiprojects etc (3). We learned about the many projects launched in different countries for the increasing the participation of women in administration. I could present the Indian perspective of issues at the conference. Most participants were amazed to know about the diversity of Indian languages. I also spoke about the WikiConf-Mumbai 2011 and the results of the gendergap session organized in the conference. The working of the chapter was also explained, but it was disappointing to reveal that we did not have had any women member in the chapter ever since. We created a private mailing list for women to get support when dealing with harassment, took steps to create WikiChix, decided to print books on perspectives of women in various countries and discussed about conducting a WikiWomencamp with more participants the coming year. At WikiGenero which happened on 26th May, Sue Gardner delivered a keynote address which was very inspiring. The news about the camp was published in local newspapers. The notes are available on meta and photos on commons(4). At the conference, I could build contacts with many women from different parts of the world. I could learn many new things could also share my knowledge. It was a highly rewarding experience. (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain (2) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp (3) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp/Agenda (4) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiWomenCamp_2012 Gracias! Sincerely Netha Hussain -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] on WCI, the report, and more
Hi Bishakha On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bishakha I am not sure if you are intentionally leaving out Pranav or if that was an oversight. Not sure what you mean - could you clarify? Sure, As I recall, the conference had two main organizers, Pradeep and Pranav. As of writing this, both of them have taken more or less a similar course of action. Pranav's report, which I do believe was written with Pradeep's knowledge and agreement, while not exactly in his complete opinion, mention politics as an issue, as does his blog. I was merely asking, why you are focusing on departure of one community member and not the other involved in the same event in the same position? What elicited this empathy that may not be as apparent for Pranav. I think that was my intention. I don't know how you can think reporting itself was the problem, I'm really confused how you formed that impression. We can of course, start lying, avoid any cautionary tales and keep repeating all is great, or you can actually confront the situation. Hey, I'm never in favour of whitewashing, ignoring or turning a blind eye to shortcomings - but it is important to be constructive in giving feedback and to take personal responsibility as well. I'm totally in favour of all that, as is evident from my questions. Certainly not advocating 'no reporting'; I'm in favour of strengthening the reporting. If, as Srikanth suggests, others who worked on WCI 2011 write in with their comments and suggestions, this would help greatly in analysing what worked, what didn't, and what we can carry with us to the next conf. I don't find criticism as destructive, knowing our fault and short-comings, is how we improve. The other option is denial. What would have been more helpful in this case? No report, or a white-washed report, after which both organizers leave. As I said, earlier, this is a conflicting point, I can see your perspective and understand it, but I can also see the other side of the argument. We haven't had a lot of post-event discussion openly, how else would we even find out what the point of contentions were, if they both just left after a thankful report. We can all write smaller reports on what we did, but none of us on the list, were in the hot-seat like those two. They were the main organizers, and as much as we can add our own perspectives, we can not know theirs, until they report it themselves. Regards Theo ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiWomenCamp and WikiGenero-Buenos Aires, Participation
Great work Netha! May I request you to consider taking up the Women's activities group on WikiProject India? Seems to me, you are well qualified to lead the way over there! Congrats, once again well Done Ashwin On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent work Netha. Keep inspiring us with your awesome work! On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you, Bishakha and Anirudh. We missed the presence of a Board of Trustee member here. I shall be very happy to share my experiences with you in detail. The other participants and chapters have also extended their help in launching gender sensitive projects in India. I will be writing my experiences in detail on my personal blogs also. We have already got an offer from a Public library in Kerala to conduct an outreach program. Will try to get more women into it! Netha On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: thank you for the report, netha! hopefully, we'll see more women participation focused workshops and meetups coming up in your hometown soon! ;-) best, anirudh On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.comwrote: Hola! Greetings from Buenos Aires! I am User: Netha Hussain (1), writing from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I was lucky to represent India in the WikiWomenCamp (2) and WikiGenero held here from 23-26 May 2012. My travel and accommodation were sponsored by Wikimedia Germany and Wikimedia Austria. The past four days had been fabulous, and I enjoyed being in the company of amazing women from different parts of the world. The conference was held in open space format with no agenda. Open space technology is called the 'wiki-way' of conducting conference as ideas are created by the way of discussing in groups and accepting contributions from all participants. I loved this, and I think we must try and use this methodology in Indian conferences too. We discussed about many issues which are primarily of concern to women, including mapping gender issues, edit-wars, GLAM, attracting women to Wikiprojects etc (3). We learned about the many projects launched in different countries for the increasing the participation of women in administration. I could present the Indian perspective of issues at the conference. Most participants were amazed to know about the diversity of Indian languages. I also spoke about the WikiConf-Mumbai 2011 and the results of the gendergap session organized in the conference. The working of the chapter was also explained, but it was disappointing to reveal that we did not have had any women member in the chapter ever since. We created a private mailing list for women to get support when dealing with harassment, took steps to create WikiChix, decided to print books on perspectives of women in various countries and discussed about conducting a WikiWomencamp with more participants the coming year. At WikiGenero which happened on 26th May, Sue Gardner delivered a keynote address which was very inspiring. The news about the camp was published in local newspapers. The notes are available on meta and photos on commons(4). At the conference, I could build contacts with many women from different parts of the world. I could learn many new things could also share my knowledge. It was a highly rewarding experience. (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain (2) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp (3) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp/Agenda (4) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiWomenCamp_2012 Gracias! Sincerely Netha Hussain -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical College, Kozhikode Blogs : *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing
