Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Few concerns

2013-09-26 Thread Hari Prasad Nadig
Shyamal,

You reminded me of the good old days of Wikipedia - the movement that
wasn't centered around money, but driven by interest and volunteering.

I hope that what you've written about Wikiculture shall be read by many
here and if that is understood by more people in coming days, the Indian
'community' can get a wee bit healthier.

Of late, whenever I switch over to read the conversations on this list, it
is not just intrigue but profound disgust that emerges.

On 25 September 2013 10:03, Shyamal L. lshya...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apologies for the rant that follows and can be conveniently skipped by the
 busy folks here.

 I am quite intrigued by the kinds of discussion on this list and indeed
 intrigued by most of the characters that seem to be involved in the
 Wikimedia movement in India and how it stands out in contrast to the spirit
 of Wikipedia and its sister projects. Whereas the project is more a culture
 of giving, most of what we see here seems to be more about merely getting
 things for oneself and getting ahead of each other which I suppose is
 inspiration drawn from street traffic. Having observed the movement from
 the outside, it is my hope that the best values of  Wikipedia culture are
 imbibed rather than the worst of Indian culture.

 * Wikiculture -  Deal with issues not the persons raising them - what
 matters more than who. Those who actually interact with the *community* (an
 earlier thread gave the suggestion that people would get an opportunity to
 interact with the *community* only by attending Wikimania) on Wikipedia
 will know this aspect. This is a symptom of the fact that hardly anyone out
 here is really editing substantially.

 * Wikiculture - Think independently and question everything - Wikipedia
 achieved a lot and is interesting because it questions(or questioned)
 paradigms that are (or were) taken for granted. It uses direct interaction,
 direct democracy, rather than representatives. So voting people into
 committees / positions that work in private is not the way things are done
 here, it is by discussing ideas. Independence requires that you question
 any sense of group identity.

 * Wikiculture - Forsake cliques, identity traps and recognize in-out-group
 dynamics. In particular I think much of the poverty of editing from India
 comes from poor research driven by the idea that  an Indian needs to
 represent India-related Wikipedia entries in a (POV) way that apparently
 instills pride among fellow-Indians!

 * Wikiculture - Wiki is not paper, editors do not need an office, the best
 community support is provided on-wiki. So again, why would having funds for
 an office, 3 employees visiting that office each day (and adding to
 Bangalore's traffic) help the Wikimedia movement? If something needs to be
 organized, let leadership be elected on Wiki and let there be an grant such
 as IEG on Wiki to support it. I have been quite intrigued by the idea of
 Special Interest Groups being defined by many here by the language in which
 they edit - one would expect SIGs to be subject dependent - so you could
 have astronomers, law experts, literature experts, and so on with members
 who work in multiple language mediums. There could be language specific
 technical SIGs that work on IME, Unicode etc but what we see here instead
 appears more like language chauvinism. Those professing to be subject
 matter experts (and really ought to members of specific SIGs) out here seem
 to contribute almost nothing to Wikipedia in their claimed area of
 expertise - for instance there are quite a number of law experts in the
 group and despite that, one finds that the law related articles, even on
 the English Wikipedia quite atrocious. With the amount of money being
 thrown here one would expect that at least something like the article on
 the Indian Copyright Act to be a GA if not an FA (on the English WP).

  [...]


The amount being thrown in is certainly huge. And this money was raised!
I'm stumped by the silence of many long time Wikipedians in voicing their
opinion against whatever has been going on in India in the name of
'Wikimedia movement'. Thanks to you for speaking out.

-- 
Hari Prasad Nadig
http://twitter.com/hpnadig
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update: Wiki Loves Monuments India 2013

2013-09-26 Thread Karthik Nadar
Did I forgot to attach the link where all the images are?? Please find it
here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_India


Regards,
Karthik Nadar.
Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in

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On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Yohann Thomas yohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congrats to the team.
 Hopefully this year too we should win like last yr.




 Yohann Thomas


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[Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia 10 years

2013-09-26 Thread Ravishankar
Hi,

Just a friendly reminder and invitation for all:

September 29 - Tamil Wikipedia celebrates 10 years in Chennai

Details can be see at

https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:10koodal/en

Please feel free to circulate our invitation at

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ta/4/41/Meetup-invite-ta-wiki-10-english.png

and follow https://www.facebook.com/events/330424000428376/ for updates.

For those who are unable to attend the event, please leave your wishes at

https://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:10wish

Ravi
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[Wikimediaindia-l] Press coverage: Konkani Wikipedia from Goa University in 6 months

2013-09-26 Thread Nitika Tandon
Konkani Wikipedia from Goa University in 6 months

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/news/Konkani-Wikipedia-from-Goa-University-in-6-months/articleshow/23126410.cms

PANAJI: Piles of the thick four volumes of Konkani vishwakosh or encyclopedia 
waiting to be picked up by users at the Goa University (GU) will now attain a 
modern avatar. The volumes, work on which was first started by renowned Goan 
writer and academician late Manoharrai Sardessai at GU, will not only be 
available in digitized format, but will form the base for a Konkani Wikipedia.

Goa University has become the first varsity in the country to enter into a 
creative commons licence that will allow data produced and copyrighted by an 
Indian university available to internet users and open to modification, making 
GU a champion of sorts of free knowledge. The Konkani Wikipedia is expected to 
be ready for use within six months, officials said.

The university has signed a three-year memorandum of understanding with the 
Centre for Internet and Society's Access to Knowledge Programme, which 
represents Wikipedia in India, for the Konkani Wikipedia project.

Professors, students and anyone with expertise or love for Konkani can come 
forward to help with the project for which training will be provided. 
Information in the Konkani vishwakosh will also be updated as per the current 
developments, Vishnu Vardhan of the centre said.

The Wikipedia is the fourth most used property on the internet after Google, 
Facebook and Yahoo, which acts as an internet based encyclopedia where any of 
the users can upload new information or update or modify an existing chapter. 
The Konkani Wikipedia too will offer similar privileges to users and GU's 
Konkani department and the centre will oversee the process from the university 
campus.

The Konkani vishwakosh covers all realms of knowledge like any other 
encyclopedia. The Konkani Wikipedia will act as a digitized repository of 
knowledge for future generations and Konkani speakers across the world. I look 
forward to the pleasure of going to the internet and clicking away to access a 
Konkani Wikipedia, GU vice-chancellor Satish Shetye said.

Shetye said that GU is glad to associate with Wikipedia which has become a 
global phenomenon and broken the monopoly of publishers and converted 
distribution of knowledge into a democratic process.

At present, it takes time for a page with information in a regional language 
to download because they are usually found in the form of scanned pages, which 
are accessible as images and not text. The Konkani Wikipedia will make the text 
accessible as is the case of any English text on the internet, GU registrar 
Vijayendra Kamat said. tnn

The Konkani vishwakosh was created over a period of 14 years.

Edited by late Manoharrai Sardessai and later Tanaji Halarnkar. GU staffers 
Ranjan Naik, Kalpana Naik, Kanchan Mordekar, Surekha Naik, Mukesh Thali and 
Shailendra Mehta contributed to the compilation process.

Contains four large volumes of 3,632 of total pages.

Konkani vishwakosh or encyclopedia encompasses world information in a nutshell 
with special emphasis on Goa, Konkani, Goan culture, folklore, history, 
geography etc.

Wikipedia is available in 20 Indian languages including Telugu, Assamese, 
Marathi, but not in Konkani so far.

Students, professors and anyone interested in contributing to the project can 
do so by enrolling online at bit.ly/konkanivishwakosh before October 5. 


Thanks 
Nitika






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[Wikimediaindia-l] Press coverage: Goa University announces plan to upload Konkani encyclopedia on Wikipedia

2013-09-26 Thread Nitika Tandon
Goa University announces plan to upload Konkani encyclopedia on Wikipedia

http://www.navhindtimes.in/goa-news/goa-university-announces-plan-upload-konkani-encyclopedia-wikipedia

PANAJI: The Goa University, on Thursday, re-launched the four volumes of 
Konkani Vishwakosh (Konkani encyclopedia), and announced its ambitious plan to 
upload the same on Wikipedia – a free encyclopedia built collaboratively using 
Wiki software – so as to build the Konkani Wikipedia.

The university has entered into a 3-year memorandum of understanding with the 
Centre for Internet and Society (CIS), for building up the Konkani Wikipedia.


Vice Chancellor of Goa University Dr Satish Shetye, speaking during the event 
held at the university said that Wikipedia is a global phenomenon and a 
platform to bring people together for making creative activities possible, 
which in fact, has challenged the monopoly of publishers and created a movement 
in order to put together knowledge, further making it accessible to public.


“This platform will bring together Konkani speaking people of the world, 
besides providing an opportunity to learn about digitisation, and write Konkani 
of global standard.”


Dr Shetye, who incidentally noticed large number of volumes of the Konkani 
encyclopedia stacked in the Goa University premises, decided to take them to 
maximum people through their re-launch and upload on the Wikipedia.


The work for the Konkani encyclopedia project was commissioned during the 
tenure of vice chancellor Prof B Sheik Ali, and was carried out by various 
people from Dr Manoharrai Sardesai to Dr Tanaji Halarnakar, with the aid of the 
Konkani department at the university.


The four volumes of the 3,632 page Konkani encyclopedia are being re-released 
under Creative Commons License CC-BY-SA 3.0 to support the movement of open 
knowledge and open access. The programme director for the Access to Knowledge 
Programme of the Centre for Internet and Society, Vishnu Vardhan, speaking on 
the occasion said that the process of uploading the four volumes of Konkani 
encyclopedia on the Wikipedia would be complete in six months time, and 
includes processes like scanning, digitisation and creating articles as per the 
requirement of Wikipedia. He also stressed on the need to rewrite some of the 
articles in Konkani encyclopedia so as to contemporarise their contents.


Vardhan also informed that relevant training programme would be specially 
co-designed by the CIS as well as the university to put up the content on the 
Wikipedia.


Goa University is the first university in the country to re-license copyright 
of its content, and hence can be termed as the ‘Champion of open knowledge’, he 
observed. Registrar Prof V P Kamat and head of Konkani department Priyadarshini 
Tadkodkar were also present on the occasion.


Thanks
Nitika

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Update: Wiki Loves Monuments India 2013

2013-09-26 Thread Bishakha Datta
Always impressed by the monumental effort behind this - and the huge number
of participants and photos it generates.

Congratulations to everyone who is involved!
Bishakha


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.inwrote:

 Did I forgot to attach the link where all the images are?? Please find it
 here:
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_India


 Regards,
 Karthik Nadar.
 Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in

 Participate in world's largest photo contest Wiki Loves Monuments:
 www.wikilovesmonuments.in


 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Yohann Thomas yohan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congrats to the team.
 Hopefully this year too we should win like last yr.




 Yohann Thomas


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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter to bid to host Wikimedia Conference 2014

2013-09-26 Thread Karthik Nadar
Hi all,


This is to inform you that WMIN has decided to mount a bid for Wikimedia
Conference 2014 (aka Chapters Conference).

Our reasoning to bid is based on the fact that its been two years since we
hosted WCI, a much bigger conference in size as compared to this. There is
no perfect time when we can bid, we will need to make decisive decisions
should we aspire to grow. We are yet to hold an international conference of
any size. WMConf is a closed door conference and we expect to host about
100-150 persons for this. This would be an ideal setting to test ourselves
before a Wikimania bid, say in 2-3 years time.

When we prepared the bid we looked at options in Bangalore, Chennai,
Cochin, Dharamsala, Goa, Mumbai, Srinagar/Gulmarg and Varanasi. Of these
Goa was found to be the best bet and we have prepared a bid available for
viewing at:
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikimedia_India_Chapter:Wikimedia_Conference_2014

Link to 2013 event budget for comparison:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:WM_IT/Wikimedia_Conference_2013


Regards,
Karthik Nadar.
Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter to bid to host Wikimedia Conference 2014

2013-09-26 Thread Anivar Aravind
Goa is a good option.
But just sharing a point of concern. It is extremely important to be
careful in selecting Hotels in Goa for International Conferences .There are
many Hotels violating many coastal regulation zones and environmental laws
.
2 years back Tehelka Think Fest  faced a similar trouble .
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/202792/controversy-clouds-tehelka-thinkfest.html

~ regards
Anivar
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter to bid to host Wikimedia Conference 2014

2013-09-26 Thread sankarshan
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in wrote:
 When we prepared the bid we looked at options in Bangalore, Chennai, Cochin,
 Dharamsala, Goa, Mumbai, Srinagar/Gulmarg and Varanasi. Of these Goa was
 found to be the best bet and we have prepared a bid available for viewing
 at:
 http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wikimedia_India_Chapter:Wikimedia_Conference_2014

You will probably require a section similar to
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:WM_IT/Wikimedia_Conference_2013#What_will_be_accomplished_if_the_project_is_successful.3F


-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan

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