[Wikimediaindia-l] Nobel Prize edit athon

2014-10-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
This can be done in India too.

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 Hi, all!

 The winner of the Nobel Peace Prize will be announced this Friday, and in
 cooperation with Wikimedia Norge, the Nobel Peace Center
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Center has invited Wikipedians
 from the Norwegian Wikipedia community to an editathon to improve the
 article about the winner(s?) as soon as possible. We'll be sitting
 practically in the next room from where the announcement is made, updating
 relevant articles as fast as we can.

 For this to be a global event, I'd like to invite anyone who's interested
 to join us in the IRC channel #wikipedia-nobel
 irc://freenode/#wikipedia-nobel, where we'll be talking and
coordinating.
 We'll also try to livetweet the event using the hashtag #wikinobel
 https://twitter.com/hashtag/wikinobel, probably mainly from the account
 @WikimediaNorge https://twitter.com/WikimediaNorge.

 The press conference will be start around 10:30 Norwegian time, which is
*08:30
 UTC*, like I said on *Friday, 10th of October*. Please join us, and help
 spread this invitation to your community.

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[Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India

2014-10-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi,

Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined as
the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see:
http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php

Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have
Asia/Kolkata as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati Wikipedia),
but some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is
UTC. So for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese
Wikisource, then the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese
Wikipedia it will be UTC.

I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the
timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be
added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each site's
community.

If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia
uses the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up
for community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to
change it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit).

If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea how
to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions.

Thank you!

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian women in science edit-a-thon

2014-10-09 Thread Netha Hussain
Dear Shyamal,

Awesome!  Congrats to the organizers for creating a useful coordination
page!

I have signed up for the online edit-a-thon and I am looking forward to
create a few articles during the next few days. I will also be around to
help with categorization of the results. I can also volunteer to bring them
to Wikidata.

-Netha

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Shyamal L. lshya...@gmail.com wrote:


 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Ada_Lovelace_Edit-a-thon_2014

 The central coordination page is now up. The contact person is Dr Harini
 Barath - har...@indiabioscience.org.
 The in-person meetups are on the 11th at the Centre for Ecological
 Sciences (Biological Sciences building), Indian Institute of Science; 13th
 at the National Centre for Biological Sciences, GKVK campus; 14th at the
 Urban Solace (restaurant) at Ulsoor.

 I am providing some editing support on the 11th and hopefully some of you
 can be there on the other two days, if not do pitch in remotely and help
 the editors or improving the target articles (hopefully without causing
 edit conflicts and grief to many potentially long-term editors).

 best wishes
 Shyamal



 On Wednesday, October 1, 2014, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Dear Shyamal,
   Great initiative! The category [1] for Indian women scientists was
 created two years back, during the Ada Lovelace Day edit-a-thon in October
 2012. We have more than 40 Indian women scientists included in this
 category now, thanks to the many women-centered edit-a-thons that attract
 editors' attention to this topic. I hope to see more articles added to this
 category after the edit-a-thon this year!
I was also wondering if there was a project/event page on Wikipedia
 for this edit-a-thon. I find it slightly off-putting  to have to fill up a
 private google form [2] to be able to participate in a public edit-a-thon.
 It is also not clear to me if the event is invite-only. I am holding back
 from joining the event until the event allows me to participate by signing
 up on a Wikimedia page.
 
  User: Fluentflux happens to be a new user who joined Wikipedia today. I
 guess they would need some on-wiki help in organizing the event, in which
 case I am happy to pitch in after October 9.
  [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Indian_women_scientists
  [2]
 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1l5NM7WziXQ8pqtx4WoD_hkCDXVbxfmVQWeLSfkWcOPA/viewform
  On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Parul sri.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I agree with Vishnu.
  I also participated in that edit-a-thon and it went fine.
  Additionally, I also feel that with festivals around the corner this is
 a little short notice and fewer days to be able to participate.
  On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear Shyamal,
 
  Last year we did Lilavati's Daughters Edit-a-thon on notable Indian
 Women Scientists [1]. I am sure the users registered there would be
 interested to take part in this too. You could probably alert the event
 organizers about this if you know them.
 
  Lilavati's Daughters Edit-a-thon received a better response from Indic
 Wikimedians and I am sure they would also be interested to take part in
 this.
 
  Best,
  Vishnu
  [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Lilavati%27s_Daughters_Edit-a-thon
 
 
  On Wednesday 01 October 2014 04:28 PM, Shyamal L. wrote:
 
  Please note this upcoming event -
 http://www.indiabioscience.org/content/women-science-wiki-edit-thon
  You can also contact the organizers via en:User:Fluentflux or
 t...@indiabioscience.org
  best wishes
  Shyamal
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India

2014-10-09 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Hi,

Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised.
In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside
India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This
cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A
simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the
pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone.
This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time,
logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings.

Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier,
could be taken up for implementation.
Regards
-Sudhanwa


On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
 Hi,

 Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined as
 the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see:
 http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php

 Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have
 Asia/Kolkata as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati Wikipedia), but
 some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is UTC. So
 for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource, then
 the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it will be
 UTC.

 I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the
 timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be
 added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each site's
 community.

 If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia uses
 the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up for
 community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to change
 it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit).

 If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea how
 to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions.

 Thank you!

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India

2014-10-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Sudhanwa, while I don't know about Indian language projects, I do know that
on the English Wikipedia, we have (or atleast used to) a standard date
format of -MM-DD. This is a reversed order which I assume would be
relatively easy to follow since even machines understand it.
Cheerio.
 On 09-Oct-2014 11:24 pm, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised.
 In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside
 India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This
 cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A
 simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the
 pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone.
 This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time,
 logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings.

 Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier,
 could be taken up for implementation.
 Regards
 -Sudhanwa


 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
 amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined as
  the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see:
  http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
 
  Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have
  Asia/Kolkata as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati Wikipedia),
 but
  some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is
 UTC. So
  for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource,
 then
  the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it will
 be
  UTC.
 
  I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the
  timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be
  added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each site's
  community.
 
  If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia
 uses
  the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up
 for
  community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to
 change
  it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit).
 
  If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea
 how
  to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions.
 
  Thank you!
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India

2014-10-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Oh, thanks for bringing that up.
The Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR) has information about date formats
for different languages and countries. MediaWiki already uses the CLDR for
some information, and can possibly use it for date formats as well. I'll
pass this on to the engineers.


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2014-10-09 20:54 GMT+03:00 Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised.
 In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside
 India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This
 cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A
 simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the
 pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone.
 This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time,
 logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings.

 Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier,
 could be taken up for implementation.
 Regards
 -Sudhanwa


 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
 amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined as
  the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see:
  http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
 
  Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have
  Asia/Kolkata as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati Wikipedia),
 but
  some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is
 UTC. So
  for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource,
 then
  the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it will
 be
  UTC.
 
  I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the
  timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be
  added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each site's
  community.
 
  If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia
 uses
  the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up
 for
  community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to
 change
  it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit).
 
  If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea
 how
  to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions.
 
  Thank you!
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India

2014-10-09 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ
+1 Srikanth Ramakrishnan

The ISO 8601 format https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 for date too
corresponds to the same above (-MM-DD) format.

Real advantages of this format are (1) Non-ambiguity, (2) Correct sort
order even when data is processed as pure text and (3) international
consistency

Certainly, this is one of the subset of CLDR too.

I suggest all Wikimedia projects should have this format as default, but
again, customizable per user preferences.

-Viswam



On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sudhanwa, while I don't know about Indian language projects, I do know
 that on the English Wikipedia, we have (or atleast used to) a standard date
 format of -MM-DD. This is a reversed order which I assume would be
 relatively easy to follow since even machines understand it.
 Cheerio.
  On 09-Oct-2014 11:24 pm, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised.
 In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside
 India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This
 cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A
 simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the
 pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone.
 This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time,
 logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings.

 Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier,
 could be taken up for implementation.
 Regards
 -Sudhanwa


 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni
 amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined
 as
  the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see:
  http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
 
  Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have
  Asia/Kolkata as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati
 Wikipedia), but
  some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is
 UTC. So
  for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource,
 then
  the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it
 will be
  UTC.
 
  I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the
  timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be
  added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each
 site's
  community.
 
  If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia
 uses
  the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up
 for
  community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to
 change
  it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit).
 
  If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea
 how
  to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions.
 
  Thank you!
 
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