Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] default time zones for projects in languages of India
I am for mmm for month name -Pavanaja On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Whenever there is DD or MM format , there is a confusion. Month should be mmm. On Oct 10, 2014 11:23 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswapra...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Srikanth Ramakrishnan The ISO 8601 format https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 for date too corresponds to the same above (-MM-DD) format. Real advantages of this format are (1) Non-ambiguity, (2) Correct sort order even when data is processed as pure text and (3) international consistency Certainly, this is one of the subset of CLDR too. I suggest all Wikimedia projects should have this format as default, but again, customizable per user preferences. -Viswam On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com wrote: Sudhanwa, while I don't know about Indian language projects, I do know that on the English Wikipedia, we have (or atleast used to) a standard date format of -MM-DD. This is a reversed order which I assume would be relatively easy to follow since even machines understand it. Cheerio. On 09-Oct-2014 11:24 pm, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Apart from this, the date formats also needs to be standardised. In India, we use dd/mm/yy as default. Whereas most editors outside India (but editing Indian languages wiki) use mm/dd/yy format. This cause huge confusions. eg. 09/10/14 is 09 Oct 14 or 10 Sep 14. A simpler and better way could be to standardise the display on the pages to dd-mmm- date formats and hh:mm:ss am/pm local timezone. This could be same for any IP based editing but at the same time, logged in users should have their own preferences in their settings. Not sure how much this is already implemented. If not done earlier, could be taken up for implementation. Regards -Sudhanwa On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Hi, Some Wikimedia projects in languages of India have Indian time defined as the default time zone. Some don't. For precise info see: http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php Search that file for wgLocaltimezone. You'll see that some projects have Asia/Kolkata as the timezone, for example guwiki (Gujarati Wikipedia), but some don't appear at all, which means that their default timezone is UTC. So for example if one goes to recent changes on the Assamese Wikisource, then the times will show by default in IST, but on Assamese Wikipedia it will be UTC. I guess that at least some of the projects will want to switch to the timezone of India. It's easy to do - a line for each project needs to be added for each site, but this should come in as requests from each site's community. If you have a few minutes, please check whether your favorite Wikimedia uses the appropriate default time zone. If it doesn't, please bring this up for community discussion, and if the community agrees, please request to change it in Bugzilla (or just submit a patch directly to Gerrit). If you need any technical explanation (for example, if you have no idea how to work with Bugzilla and Gerrit), I am available for questions. Thank you! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
The books have this statement ಈ ಆವೃತ್ತಿಯ ಹಕ್ಕು : ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ ಸರಕಾರ, which means Govt of Karnataka holds the copyright for this particular edition. GoK issued a statement releasing these books now under CC. I do agree that there can't be any copyright on texts of dasa sahitya, vachana sahitya and other classics which are quite old. The books now released by GoK also include some recent books which contains collections like complete works of Dr Ambedkar, essays on Ambedkar, research works on Kanaka dasa, etc. We should appreciate that officials at Kannada and Culture Dept of GoK have realised the importance of open knowledge philosophy and have agreed to release the books under CC. This will definitely help in convincing other departments, academies and universities to release their works under CC. Regards, Pavanaja On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2014 11:19 AM, Rajesh Ranjan wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Anivar Aravind anivar.arav...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Vishnu visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ravi, On the copyright question AFAIK... it is the manner in which a certain content is expressed (e.g. analyzed, compiled, paginated, represented, etc..) the author could claim copyright, as there is a certain basic amount of creative labour that went into it. So Govt. of Karnataka could rightfully copyright these works, which it has now released under CC-BY-SA 3.0. A useful thing to read in this context would be this [1]. As Ravi pointed 11th Century Kannada literature is already public domain . There is no point in re-licensing it as CC-BY-SA . Digitization does not create fresh copyright . While thanking Govt for their efforts to make it available , please dont create fresh copyright on it . And while looking at details, There was no point of time in which govt of Karanataka had copyright on this content . This effort is almost in same lines of Open access initiative of rare public domain books by Kerala Sahitya academy happened almost same time last year (http://www.keralasahityaakademi.org/online_library/index.html) . They havnt claimed any undeserving copyright on these books . SO it is better if people involved canm correct Govt of Karanataka at this point itself showing kerala example to avoid further ambiguities surrounding license . ~ regards Anivar I agree with Ravi and Anivar! I am not an expert of licensing, but the thing that is already in public domain, licensing the same under CC-BY-SA 3.0 is one way limiting the public availability of the same content. Rajesh and Anivar, Purely from a copyright POV, it is important to recognize the idea - expression divide. The content per-se in this case may be public domain, but it is the expression of it that is copyrighted as I stated above. Especially, as I understand, the copyright act in India has bare minimum requirements for creative labour. But I am willing to be better educated on this. In US copyright The Bridgeman v. Corel [1]case established, and several other courts have followed, the principle that a slavish copy does not have enough originality to warrant copyright protection. Skill in making that copy, no matter how great it is (and we all know how difficult it can be to make a good copy), also is not by itself original enough to warrant copyright protection. we only need to care about the US law in this case because content hosted is in wikimedia servers in US . AFAIK this does not have much conflicts with indian law too. Licensing this under creative commons is a copyright claim of public domain works even though spirit behind licensing is different. So my only point is whoever working on this please correct it at this point itself by giving proper credit (as Open access initiative of kannada old classics ) by pointing examples like kerala sahitya academy's last year efforts. In india we anyway need to get more public institutions and libraries to release digitalized /scanned version of PD works . So the each example we set at this point have impacts over all these decisions. So please correct the mistakes at this point . If public institions who release PD books in digitalized form needs credit for their efforts do it via press coverage or via GLAM [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeman_Art_Library_v._Corel_Corp. ~ regards Anivar ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
[Wikimediaindia-l] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
namaste, It gives me immense pleasure to announce the re-release of 105 Kannada classics by Dept of Kannada Culture, Govt of Karnataka, under CC-BY-SA. CIS-A2K put lot of efforts in convincing the department to achieve this milestone. These books include classics like complete Dasa Sahitya which include complete works of Purandaradasa, Kanakadasa, complete Vachana Sahitya, Kumaravyasa Bharata, Jaimini Bharata, etc. We got 4 books in PDF form and they have been uploaded to Commons and index pages created in Kannada Wikisource. The complete project page for anyone to register and start working on is at http://bit.ly/gokbooks. The same page has the link to the declaration containing the list of books released under CC-BY-SA now. People are welcome to scan and upload other books from the list. I am simultaneously working on procuring other books from the list in PDF form. Thanks and regards, Pavanaja ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikikn-l (kannada wikipedia)] Release of 105 books by Govt of Karnataka under CC-BY-SA
Dear Ravi, The works are no doubt out of copyright, but the particular collection, edited and paginated by GoK is what have been re-released in CC. They have so far provided softcopies of 4 books. I am trying to get the remaining books as well. Thanks and regards, Pavanaja On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Ravishankar Ayyakkannu ravidre...@wikimedia.in wrote: Hi Pavanaja, Please excuse my ignorance regarding Kannada Literature. Are we talking about the works of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purandara_Dasa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanaka_Dasa and works like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasa_sahitya These seem centuries old and should be already available in public domain with no copyright claims. Why woud we need them re-released under Creative Commons? If Dept of Kannada Culture, Govt of Karnataka provides access to readily available digitized sources, it is an important gesture and I appreciate the effort behind this. But, not sure on the copyright part. Could you please clarify? Thanks. Ravi, Program Director, Wikimedia India Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia crosses 1000 total contributors milestone
Congratulations to Tamil Wikipedian community Thaks and regards, Pavanaja Sent from phone. Regret pselling mixtakes On 24 Nov 2013 23:55, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in wrote: Congratulations to the Tamil community; indeed a good news. I'm happy to be one among them :-) On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: This is very good news Ravi. Kudos to the community! Sent from the touchscreen equivalent of a Nokia 1100, pardon the sender. -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan, Treasurer. On Nov 24, 2013 11:17 PM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, October 2013 stats for Tamil Wikipedia is out. We have crossed many milestones in one jump coinciding with our Tenth Anniversary Celebrations! * 1017 Total contributors . We have crossed the 1000 milestone after Malayalam Wikipedia. Next in line is Hindi Wikipedia with 988 total contributors. * 118 active editors who edit 5 times a month. Highest in ten years and the first time we crossed 100. * 27 new editors joined this month. This is the second highest enrollment in ten years after the 2010 June state wide essay contest time. * 25 very active editors who edit 100 times a month. Highest in ten years. * We went from 1 to 2 contributors for every one million Tamil speaking population now. * Registered 8.5m million page views. That is 2,83,000 per day. Highest in ten years. We hope to sustain this activity through various initiatives. Thanks, Ravi References: 1. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaTA.htm 2. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryTA.htm 3. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesPageViewsMonthlyCombined.htm ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards from Mumbai, Karthik Nadar. (+91) 977-360-8862 Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. Bangalore, India. http://wiki.wikimedia.in ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian profile on Wikimedia India Chapter wiki
Congrats to Om Pavithra. @Netha - it is Pavithra and not me! Thaks and regards, Pavanaja Sent from phone. Regret pselling mixtakes On 5 Aug 2013 02:20, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Yay, we have a featured Wikimedian couple this month! Pavanaja and Omsivaprakash are Wikimedians based in Bangalore. Read about them on Wikimedia India Chapter wiki here : http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Main_Page Regards Netha On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Pavanaja U B pavan...@vishvakannada.comwrote: Congratulatiions Sujith ** ** Regards, Pavanaja ** ** *From:* wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimediaindia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Netha Hussain *Sent:* 04 July 2013 00:39 *To:* Wikimedia India Community list *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian profile on Wikimedia India Chapter wiki ** ** Dear all, The featured Wikimedian for July is Mr. T.K Sujith from Malayalam Wikipedia. Sujith's profile can be viewed here : http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Main_Page ** ** If you know a Wikimedian who you think is awesome, please let me know and connect me with them so that I can get them featured. ** ** Warmly ** ** Netha Hussain ** ** On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi subhash...@cis-india.org wrote: Great to see you Srikar, Kudos buddy! ;) ** ** Subha ** ** ** ** On 04-Jun-2013, at 12:55 PM, ansuman wrote: Glad to see you as a Featured Wikimedian. Your work is impressive, keep them coming! Thanks Netha. Regards, Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um *ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ http://or.wikipedia.org/* ** ** On 4 June 2013 00:50, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations Srikar! Keep up your amazing work. ** ** Cheers, Vishnu ** ** On 3 June 2013 22:37, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, ** ** The featured Wikimedian of this month is *Srikar Kashyap Pulipaka. *Srikar is the youngest ever person to be a featured Wikimedian. His profile can be viewed here http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Main_Page. ** ** Thanks! ** ** Regards ** ** Netha Hussain ** ** On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, The Featured Wikimedian of this month is Rohini Lakshanéhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Template:Featured_Wikimedian/2013/May from Mumbai. Rohini is the first woman to be featured on the main page of Wikimedia India Chapter wiki. ** ** Thanks! ** ** User: Netha Hussain ** ** On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: OOh, Vensatry. One of our long standing contributors to the English Wikipedia! Glad to see him as a featured Wikimedian. Thanks a lot, Netha! ** ** On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, The featured Wikimedian of this month is Venkateshhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vensatryfrom English Wikipedia. Venkatesh's profile can be viewed here : http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Main_Page ** ** If you know a Wikimedian who you think is eligible to be featured as the Wikimedian of the month, please let me know and connect me with them! ** ** ** ** Regards ** ** Netha ** ** On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in wrote: Ansuman, ** ** I have added his username. ** ** ** ** Thanks! On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:35 PM, ansuman ansum...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thanks for the update, and for bringing in such senior contributors. I only knew him as User:Gurubrahma, Could you add his enwiki userpage link to the profile? Regards, Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um ** ** On 1 March 2013 21:09, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, The featured Wikimedian of March is Srinivas Gunta from English Wikipedia. His profile can be viewed here: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Main_Page Thanks Regards Netha ** ** ** ** ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ** ** -- Thanks and regards, Karthik Nadar, Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ** ** -- Netha Hussain Student of Medicine and Surgery Govt. Medical
