[Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding - Improving the Wiki-UI using AJAX JQuery

2011-10-07 Thread Shivansh Srivastava
Hi,

A mail sent by Wikimedia said that I'll be contacted shortly regarding my
talk, but haven't been contacted yet. (
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Submissions_Review -
No. 179)
Hence, I am starting a thread for the same.

*1. *The idea behind my proposal was to put as much *AJAX *in a Wiki Page as
possible, which will make Wiki more Professional  Enticing for users.

For instance, if you take a look at the pages -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_sovereign_debt_crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%932011_Greek_protests or,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_disasters_by_death_toll

A user (an Engineer like me) might not be interested in going through each 
every topic. Since the whole page (1.54 MB for the Euro Debt Crisis Page)
would be loaded every time, we can implement a method which would only show
the topic which would be selected from the Table of Contents. Thus, one
doesnt have to scroll through long paragraphs each time he has to look for
different topics within a page. Hence,  instead of the whole page, a section
of the page is transferred at a time.

*Advantages-*

The whole Web page would be compact.
One wont have to scroll through large paragraphs.
*Waiting Time *is reduced.
*Bandwidth Usage- *Since pages do not have to completely reload, it can help
in less server bandwidth (helpful for me in my college), and when you are in
countries or places that charge for your hosting bandwith, it will be more
efficient,
*Traffic *to and from the server is *reduced*.
Form Validation.
User Simplicity.
Speed.

*Disadvantages-*

If you press the back button, you may not be able to return in the previous
state.
Might be *difficult to* *bookmark *and return to that particular state of
the application

*2. *The second idea was to put *JQuery *into use.

For instance, Stave Jobs died on 5th Oct, a couple of days bak.
We could have had an implementation of a simple slideshow of pictures
showing his Life (from Apple NeXT, Pixar, Disney to Apple), his inventions
(from Apple I to Macbook Air + IPad  IPhone) on the main Wiki Page.

Example for implementation-
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/archive/Bill-Shankly-previously-unseen-pictures-of-the-Liverpool-and-Preston-legend-plus-original-Daily-Mirror-features-and-stories-from-our-archive-article579.html

*Advantages *are that it has a Large library  an efficient  helpful Open
Source Community and has *AJAX Support.*
Obviously for that JQuery Javascript file would  be required to run the
JQuery commands.
*
*
*Till here was about my Proposal.*


I have a few more queries though.

1. Could someone tell me about Hackathon  what role can I play, depending
on my proposal?
2. How do I present my talk (if I am allowed)..like present a modified page
with AJAX usage as well?
3. Could I have a contact no. of someone incharge so that I can speak
directly, in case for some minor queries.


Thanks in advance.

With Regards,
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding - Improving the Wiki-UI using AJAX JQuery

2011-10-07 Thread Akshay Agarwal
Hi Shivansh,


On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Shivansh Srivastava shivansh.b...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 *Advantages-*

 The whole Web page would be compact.
 One wont have to scroll through large paragraphs.
 *Waiting Time *is reduced.
 *Bandwidth Usage- *Since pages do not have to completely reload, it can
 help in less server bandwidth (helpful for me in my college), and when you
 are in countries or places that charge for your hosting bandwith, it will be
 more efficient,
 *Traffic *to and from the server is *reduced*.
 Form Validation.
 User Simplicity.
 Speed.


You have proposed a really nice talk regarding the usability. The Wikimedia
Foundation has also been considering similar improvements in the UI  UX,
checkout http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Usability_Initiative

I have also worked on a similar project for MediaWiki this summer 
developed an extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SignupAPI
My work involved a lot of jQuery  Ajax stuff, so in case you need any help
with that, feel free to contact me directly.


 *Disadvantages-*

 If you press the back button, you may not be able to return in the previous
 state.
 Might be *difficult to* *bookmark *and return to that particular state of
 the application


There are ways to get around this problem as well



 *2. *The second idea was to put *JQuery *into use.


MediaWiki (the software that powers Wikipedia) already has a jQuery library
 also the necessary CSS markups to support the specific functionalities for
vector theme, you can try downloading a copy of MediaWiki on your local host
 play with it, you may also come up with a modified version of the article
page which you can showcase in your talk

I have a few more queries though.

 1. Could someone tell me about Hackathon  what role can I play, depending
 on my proposal?
 2. How do I present my talk (if I am allowed)..like present a modified page
 with AJAX usage as well?
 3. Could I have a contact no. of someone incharge so that I can speak
 directly, in case for some minor queries.


The conference  hackathon committee will be able to help you a lot with it,
in the meantime you can checkout the hackathon page at
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/India_Hackathon_2011


-- Thanks  Regards
-Akshay Agarwal
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding - Improving the Wiki-UI using AJAX JQuery

2011-10-07 Thread Shivansh Srivastava
Thanks a lot Akshay for your reply...!!

I will definitely be in touch with you soon for guidance.

Cheers,

On 7 October 2011 16:38, Akshay Agarwal akshay.leadin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Shivansh,


 On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Shivansh Srivastava 
 shivansh.b...@gmail.com wrote:


 *Advantages-*

 The whole Web page would be compact.
 One wont have to scroll through large paragraphs.
 *Waiting Time *is reduced.
 *Bandwidth Usage- *Since pages do not have to completely reload, it can
 help in less server bandwidth (helpful for me in my college), and when you
 are in countries or places that charge for your hosting bandwith, it will be
 more efficient,
 *Traffic *to and from the server is *reduced*.
 Form Validation.
 User Simplicity.
 Speed.


 You have proposed a really nice talk regarding the usability. The Wikimedia
 Foundation has also been considering similar improvements in the UI  UX,
 checkout http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Usability_Initiative

 I have also worked on a similar project for MediaWiki this summer 
 developed an extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SignupAPI
 My work involved a lot of jQuery  Ajax stuff, so in case you need any help
 with that, feel free to contact me directly.


 *Disadvantages-*

 If you press the back button, you may not be able to return in the
 previous state.
 Might be *difficult to* *bookmark *and return to that particular state of
 the application


 There are ways to get around this problem as well



  *2. *The second idea was to put *JQuery *into use.


 MediaWiki (the software that powers Wikipedia) already has a jQuery library
  also the necessary CSS markups to support the specific functionalities for
 vector theme, you can try downloading a copy of MediaWiki on your local host
  play with it, you may also come up with a modified version of the article
 page which you can showcase in your talk

 I have a few more queries though.

 1. Could someone tell me about Hackathon  what role can I play, depending
 on my proposal?
 2. How do I present my talk (if I am allowed)..like present a modified
 page with AJAX usage as well?
 3. Could I have a contact no. of someone incharge so that I can speak
 directly, in case for some minor queries.


 The conference  hackathon committee will be able to help you a lot with
 it, in the meantime you can checkout the hackathon page at
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/India_Hackathon_2011


 -- Thanks  Regards
 -Akshay Agarwal

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding - Improving the Wiki-UI using AJAX JQuery

2011-10-07 Thread sd17...@gmail.com
Thanks!

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--Original message--
From: Shivansh Srivastava shivansh.b...@gmail.com
To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Friday, October 7, 2011 11:15:50 PM GMT+0530
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Regarding - Improving the Wiki-UI using AJAX  
JQuery

Thanks a lot Akshay for your reply...!!

I will definitely be in touch with you soon for guidance.

Cheers,

On 7 October 2011 16:38, Akshay Agarwal akshay.leadin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Shivansh,


 On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Shivansh Srivastava 
 shivansh.b...@gmail.com wrote:


 *Advantages-*

 The whole Web page would be compact.
 One wont have to scroll through large paragraphs.
 *Waiting Time *is reduced.
 *Bandwidth Usage- *Since pages do not have to completely reload, it can
 help in less server bandwidth (helpful for me in my college), and when you
 are in countries or places that charge for your hosting bandwith, it will be
 more efficient,
 *Traffic *to and from the server is *reduced*.
 Form Validation.
 User Simplicity.
 Speed.


 You have proposed a really nice talk regarding the usability. The Wikimedia
 Foundation has also been considering similar improvements in the UI  UX,
 checkout http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Usability_Initiative

 I have also worked on a similar project for MediaWiki this summer 
 developed an extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SignupAPI
 My work involved a lot of jQuery  Ajax stuff, so in case you need any help
 with that, feel free to contact me directly.


 *Disadvantages-*

 If you press the back button, you may not be able to return in the
 previous state.
 Might be *difficult to* *bookmark *and return to that particular state of
 the application


 There are ways to get around this problem as well



  *2. *The second idea was to put *JQuery *into use.


 MediaWiki (the software that powers Wikipedia) already has a jQuery library
  also the necessary CSS markups to support the specific functionalities for
 vector theme, you can try downloading a copy of MediaWiki on your local host
  play with it, you may also come up with a modified version of the article
 page which you can showcase in your talk

 I have a few more queries though.

 1. Could someone tell me about Hackathon  what role can I play, depending
 on my proposal?
 2. How do I present my talk (if I am allowed)..like present a modified
 page with AJAX usage as well?
 3. Could I have a contact no. of someone incharge so that I can speak
 directly, in case for some minor queries.


 The conference  hackathon committee will be able to help you a lot with
 it, in the meantime you can checkout the hackathon page at
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/India_Hackathon_2011


 -- Thanks  Regards
 -Akshay Agarwal

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