Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A certain Jayantilal Kothari on this list

2015-04-18 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Yohann,
apologies if I've offended you. I'm not accusing the Pune community. Do
remember, I'm also part of the Pune community now.

Since this person chose to generalise things, I also chose to generalise as
such open trolling and blatant mudslinging happened when the Pune Club was
mentioned back in 2013. However, the past is the past.

My only point is, such trolls should not be encouraged. This said user is
the same user who says people like me should not be entertained. I've been
part of this list since 2008, a time, when quite a lot of people here did
not even know what the Edit Button was.
The same user in the past has made scathing remarks against me and Moksh:

 Dear Moksh!
 You have a 3 months baby which means you were already execpting a child a
 year ago. It was not a natural calaminity or something like that which
 occured suddenly. Having 3 months old baby is just a fake reason behind
 your resignation. I haven't seen any work or activity done by you or your
 EC in your tenure till date.

 Regards,
 Jayantilal.

here
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-September/011624.html

If such users come to this public list to blast hard working users [yes, I
consider myself hard working as far as Wiki is concerned, both offline and
online], then there is no need for them to be here. Our contributions speak
volumes for themselves, and mine, be it on en.wikipedia, commons, or
wikidata speak more than some anonymous troll who sends out a mail with a
singular +1 attached to it.



Apologies for the whole Pune thing. That was wrong for me to have said.
However, I repeat, such trolls need to be blocked if the sanity and quality
of this mailing list it to be maintained.


On 18 April 2015 at 23:21, Yohann Thomas yohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 Rohini. I completely agree with you.

 But @srikanth, I am disappointed  saddened from the fact that you are
 indirectly accusing that this person(who I have never heard of  I
 guarantee is not from Pune Community) is from Pune community. It is totally
 incorrect of you to blame any community without any proof.

 Are you trying to say that anyone who criticizes you is from Pune
 Community??

 PS.
 As being a current EC member, I strongly object  oppose any kind of
 mudslinging on past as well as current EC members. The integrity of this
 chapter is of my utmost importance.




 On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Rohini Lakshané rohini.laksh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I agree with Srikanth, and urge the moderators to enforce a policy to
 deal with ad homimen attacks on this list.

 Kothari's problem seems to be with Srikanth's (and other former EC
 members') past actions and not with the suggestions and comments Srikanth
 has made about Wiki Loves Food. Bringing up a bona fide member's real or
 perceived bad karma from the past only derails the conversation and does
 not nothing constructive for the community.


 Rohini Lakshané
 about.me/rohini
   [image: Rohini Lakshané on about.me]
 http://about.me/rohini

 2015-04-18 18:19 GMT+05:30 Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com:

 There is  certain Jayantilal Kothari on this list, possibly a member of
 the Wikimedia Pune Club who is now spewing venom against me.
 As far as I know, this avcount ahs only been trolling in the past.
 The account says people like must NOT be entertained on this list.
 *MIGHT I REMIND YOU JAYANTILAL KOTHARI, THAT I HAVE BEEN A WIKIMEDIAN
 FOR 10 YEARS, HAVE THOUSANDS OF CONTRIBUTIONS BOTH ONLINE AND OFFLINE so I
 AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO PIPE DOWN.*

 I have not seen you contribute to Wiki, who are you to talk about me?

 I resigned from the chapter for multiple reasons, including dilly
 dallying during Ravi's hiring. Yes, I did send a mail about the minority
 EC, so that the GoK might have handled the situation which might have
 helped the chapter. You do not know me, or my contributions to the
 movement, so YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT ME AND MY INTEREST In the
 Chapter.
 I don't want to stoop to the level of saying Shut up, but should the
 matter escalate, I will do so.

 Yes, yes, thanks to certain people who saved the chapter. You have no
 clue what was happening then, so don't bother.
 PRanav and Moksh's stepping down was also for personal reasons there is
 no reason to drag all three of us into this.

 --
 Regards,
 Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
 What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
 back.

 Please sign this petition for Volvo buses in Coimbatore:

 https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-introduction-of-volvo-city-buses-in-the-city-of-coimbatore



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A certain Jayantilal Kothari on this list

2015-04-18 Thread Yohann Thomas
+1 Rohini. I completely agree with you.

But @srikanth, I am disappointed  saddened from the fact that you are
indirectly accusing that this person(who I have never heard of  I
guarantee is not from Pune Community) is from Pune community. It is totally
incorrect of you to blame any community without any proof.

Are you trying to say that anyone who criticizes you is from Pune
Community??

PS.
As being a current EC member, I strongly object  oppose any kind of
mudslinging on past as well as current EC members. The integrity of this
chapter is of my utmost importance.



On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Rohini Lakshané rohini.laksh...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I agree with Srikanth, and urge the moderators to enforce a policy to deal
 with ad homimen attacks on this list.

 Kothari's problem seems to be with Srikanth's (and other former EC
 members') past actions and not with the suggestions and comments Srikanth
 has made about Wiki Loves Food. Bringing up a bona fide member's real or
 perceived bad karma from the past only derails the conversation and does
 not nothing constructive for the community.


 Rohini Lakshané
 about.me/rohini
   [image: Rohini Lakshané on about.me]
 http://about.me/rohini

 2015-04-18 18:19 GMT+05:30 Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rsrikant...@gmail.com');:

 There is  certain Jayantilal Kothari on this list, possibly a member of
 the Wikimedia Pune Club who is now spewing venom against me.
 As far as I know, this avcount ahs only been trolling in the past.
 The account says people like must NOT be entertained on this list.
 *MIGHT I REMIND YOU JAYANTILAL KOTHARI, THAT I HAVE BEEN A WIKIMEDIAN FOR
 10 YEARS, HAVE THOUSANDS OF CONTRIBUTIONS BOTH ONLINE AND OFFLINE so I AM
 GOING TO ASK YOU TO PIPE DOWN.*

 I have not seen you contribute to Wiki, who are you to talk about me?

 I resigned from the chapter for multiple reasons, including dilly
 dallying during Ravi's hiring. Yes, I did send a mail about the minority
 EC, so that the GoK might have handled the situation which might have
 helped the chapter. You do not know me, or my contributions to the
 movement, so YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT ME AND MY INTEREST In the
 Chapter.
 I don't want to stoop to the level of saying Shut up, but should the
 matter escalate, I will do so.

 Yes, yes, thanks to certain people who saved the chapter. You have no
 clue what was happening then, so don't bother.
 PRanav and Moksh's stepping down was also for personal reasons there is
 no reason to drag all three of us into this.

 --
 Regards,
 Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
 What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
 back.

 Please sign this petition for Volvo buses in Coimbatore:

 https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-introduction-of-volvo-city-buses-in-the-city-of-coimbatore



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A certain Jayantilal Kothari on this list

2015-04-18 Thread Karthik Nadar
+1 Rohini.

I think all points raised by Srikanth and everyone is valid on Wiki Loves
Food discussion thread. Srikanth was not the only one, it included me,
Sudanwa, Dhaval. All of them were just curious and want to see all goes
well before the contest goes live.

No one should have rights to say to the community to ignore someone's
queries raised because (it has) some emotions that some one has taken so
much of time and efforts to understand what exactly is happening and by
asking, he would alert is there needs any correction.
On 18-Apr-2015 11:21 pm, Yohann Thomas yohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 Rohini. I completely agree with you.

 But @srikanth, I am disappointed  saddened from the fact that you are
 indirectly accusing that this person(who I have never heard of  I
 guarantee is not from Pune Community) is from Pune community. It is totally
 incorrect of you to blame any community without any proof.

 Are you trying to say that anyone who criticizes you is from Pune
 Community??

 PS.
 As being a current EC member, I strongly object  oppose any kind of
 mudslinging on past as well as current EC members. The integrity of this
 chapter is of my utmost importance.



 On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Rohini Lakshané rohini.laksh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I agree with Srikanth, and urge the moderators to enforce a policy to
 deal with ad homimen attacks on this list.

 Kothari's problem seems to be with Srikanth's (and other former EC
 members') past actions and not with the suggestions and comments Srikanth
 has made about Wiki Loves Food. Bringing up a bona fide member's real or
 perceived bad karma from the past only derails the conversation and does
 not nothing constructive for the community.


 Rohini Lakshané
 about.me/rohini
   [image: Rohini Lakshané on about.me]
 http://about.me/rohini

 2015-04-18 18:19 GMT+05:30 Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikant...@gmail.com:

 There is  certain Jayantilal Kothari on this list, possibly a member of
 the Wikimedia Pune Club who is now spewing venom against me.
 As far as I know, this avcount ahs only been trolling in the past.
 The account says people like must NOT be entertained on this list.
 *MIGHT I REMIND YOU JAYANTILAL KOTHARI, THAT I HAVE BEEN A WIKIMEDIAN
 FOR 10 YEARS, HAVE THOUSANDS OF CONTRIBUTIONS BOTH ONLINE AND OFFLINE so I
 AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO PIPE DOWN.*

 I have not seen you contribute to Wiki, who are you to talk about me?

 I resigned from the chapter for multiple reasons, including dilly
 dallying during Ravi's hiring. Yes, I did send a mail about the minority
 EC, so that the GoK might have handled the situation which might have
 helped the chapter. You do not know me, or my contributions to the
 movement, so YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT ME AND MY INTEREST In the
 Chapter.
 I don't want to stoop to the level of saying Shut up, but should the
 matter escalate, I will do so.

 Yes, yes, thanks to certain people who saved the chapter. You have no
 clue what was happening then, so don't bother.
 PRanav and Moksh's stepping down was also for personal reasons there is
 no reason to drag all three of us into this.

 --
 Regards,
 Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
 What goes around, may not necessarily come around, it may simply bounce
 back.

 Please sign this petition for Volvo buses in Coimbatore:

 https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-introduction-of-volvo-city-buses-in-the-city-of-coimbatore



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