Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-17 Thread Hisham
Here's the link that gives the log of this meeting - for those who couldn't 
attend.

As planned, the major topic of discussion was the Indic Languages initiatives.  
We talked about the overall approach that Shiju has been following with several 
dozen community members.  We walked through the  Medical project - currently 
underway in Assamese, Telugu, Oriya (Odia)  Malayalam.  (This seeks to create 
vital articles in Indic wikis with the help of community members with 
medical/healthcare background, or users who are interested in healthcare 
articles.)  During the IRC, Jayanta informed us that the Bengali community have 
also started it  - which is great.   We also discussed the Translated Articles 
Enhancement Project which has been started by the Kannada community.

Thank you to every one but a special thank you to the new folks who came on 
today.  It's always nice to see new faces!

We ran out of time on this IRC.   As discussed, I would like to suggest 
Thursday March 22nd @9pm IST for another IRC.  (This is in addition to the IRC 
planned for March 29th.)  The March 22nd IRCwill be an open house - and will 
not therefore have a predetermined agenda.

As always, do visit the India Program page for more information on everything 
we do. 

Best

hisham

On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Hisham wrote:

 Reminder that we are starting in 15 minutes.
 
 Do join in!  Details below.
 
 hisham
 
 On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Hisham wrote:
 
 Gentle reminder. Do join in.
 
 hisham
 
 On Mar 11, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Hisham wrote:
 
 Hi Folks
 
 One of the essential things that India Program needs to constantly work out 
 is keeping the community informed of the work that we are doing - so that 
 this work is clearer but also to help cross-pollinate ideas amongst a wider 
 set of community members who might not have been engaged on specific 
 village pump / talk page discussion or involved in particular activities 
 (e.g. outreach events) or wikiprojects.
 
 We used to have a monthly IRC with the community and India Program.   (For 
 those who are not familiar with IRC, it is an Internet messaging system 
 similar to a regular chat room.  It's very simple to use and you can join 
 in by clicking on the following link: 
 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office.)  I have been 
 remiss in conducting these for the past few months - and I'd like to make 
 amends by restarting, with a couple of modifications.
 
 a) I'd like to propose fortnightly instead of monthly.  (I was wary of 
 doing it any more frequently than monthly earlier because I didn't know if 
 there would be enough on the plate to discuss.  I have changed my mind now 
 - because there is too much to discuss to cover in a single monthly 
 session.)  I'd like to propose that we do it in the 1st and 3rd Thursdays 
 of every month at 9pm IST (which is GMT + 0530) - THOUGH NOT THIS MONTH - 
 BECAUSE I HAVE MISSED THE TIMELINE.  Just for March, we will do it on March 
 15th and March 29th (both at 9pm IST which is GMT + 0530)
 b) I'd like to propose that we do it focussed on specific work streams 
 instead of general.  The reason I say this is that - as with many community 
 meet-ups, folks will give time to attend a meet-up or participate in an IRC 
 only if there is a topic of relevance to them.  To that extent, we could do 
 one IRC on Indic languages and one on Outreach  Communications.  I'd start 
 both the IRCs with a re-cap of India Programs activities for the fortnight 
 (or so) prior to the IRC and forward from the IRC - and then we could talk 
 about either Indic langauges or Outreach  Communications.
 
 The March 15th one will be focussed on Indic Languages and the one on March 
 29th will be on Outreach  Communications.  
 
 

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-17 Thread Hisham
Hi Pradeep

Thanks for sharing this. I've been thinking about what you say and i agree with 
you.  Based on your ideas, here's what I suggest.  Going forward, one day 
before the IRC, we will publish a brief opening statement (which will be 
relevant to the topic, e.g., Indic Languages) which will be on meta.  The IRC 
will start with a link to this statement.  For the next 45 minutes we will 
discuss the statement.  We will then open the floor up for that last 15 
minutes.  When we publish the logs, we will publish the opening statement above 
it - so the context is clear to those who could not attend.  This way, I hope 
that we will have a enough time and space to discuss the particular topic and 
allow for maximum participation - and still keep open the option for other 
discussions.

On the aspect of comfort with IRCs, I agree it does take a little getting used 
to.  The key thing (in addition to the structure I am proposing above) is that 
we encourage everyone to get involved in the discussion.   I do hope that we 
keep getting newer folks on - as we had the last time round - and it  is they 
who are most likely to feel they don't have the space to join in a conversation 
when they see the volume of messages and diversity of topics.

...and yes, we will continue the IRC sessions and keep looking at how we can 
improve effectiveness.

Best

hisham

On Mar 15, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote:

 hi,
 
 I hope some of the IRC-veterans can pitch in here. 
 
 Not everyone is comfortable with IRC. I think these sessions will be more 
 helpful for all involved if we had a statement put up on a wiki or on the 
 mailing list by individuals who want to make these statements and then have a 
 round of questions around the topics (as an example: community and outreach) 
 which were meant to be discussed at the meeting.
 
 Then, perhaps throw the floor open for general questions that members of the 
 community want to raise. I think this will make it interactive and not be 
 percieved as a narrative or a one-sided discussion. These may not have been 
 intentional and should have been raised earlier.
 
 I hope the Office continues this practice and tries to improve its 
 effectiveness as they move forward.
 
 warm regards,
 User:Prad2609
 
 On 15 March 2012 20:45, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Reminder that we are starting in 15 minutes.
 
 Do join in!  Details below.
 
 hisham
 
 On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Hisham wrote:
 
 Gentle reminder. Do join in.
 
 hisham
 
 On Mar 11, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Hisham wrote:
 
 Hi Folks
 
 One of the essential things that India Program needs to constantly work out 
 is keeping the community informed of the work that we are doing - so that 
 this work is clearer but also to help cross-pollinate ideas amongst a wider 
 set of community members who might not have been engaged on specific 
 village pump / talk page discussion or involved in particular activities 
 (e.g. outreach events) or wikiprojects.
 
 We used to have a monthly IRC with the community and India Program.   (For 
 those who are not familiar with IRC, it is an Internet messaging system 
 similar to a regular chat room.  It's very simple to use and you can join 
 in by clicking on the following link: 
 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office.)  I have been 
 remiss in conducting these for the past few months - and I'd like to make 
 amends by restarting, with a couple of modifications.
 
 a) I'd like to propose fortnightly instead of monthly.  (I was wary of 
 doing it any more frequently than monthly earlier because I didn't know if 
 there would be enough on the plate to discuss.  I have changed my mind now 
 - because there is too much to discuss to cover in a single monthly 
 session.)  I'd like to propose that we do it in the 1st and 3rd Thursdays 
 of every month at 9pm IST (which is GMT + 0530) - THOUGH NOT THIS MONTH - 
 BECAUSE I HAVE MISSED THE TIMELINE.  Just for March, we will do it on March 
 15th and March 29th (both at 9pm IST which is GMT + 0530)
 b) I'd like to propose that we do it focussed on specific work streams 
 instead of general.  The reason I say this is that - as with many community 
 meet-ups, folks will give time to attend a meet-up or participate in an IRC 
 only if there is a topic of relevance to them.  To that extent, we could do 
 one IRC on Indic languages and one on Outreach  Communications.  I'd start 
 both the IRCs with a re-cap of India Programs activities for the fortnight 
 (or so) prior to the IRC and forward from the IRC - and then we could talk 
 about either Indic langauges or Outreach  Communications.
 
 The March 15th one will be focussed on Indic Languages and the one on March 
 29th will be on Outreach  Communications.  
 
 
 
 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-16 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Pradeep, while I haven't used Google Hangout, or done videocalls with
Skype, I'd just like to state that, IRC is nothing but a text chat.
Like using an Instant Messenger. True, sharing files isn't easy, but
you could use a workaround. I'm now tempted to attempt a Virtual
Workshop over IRC.

-- 
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-16 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
To clarify: I have nothing against IRC. Just the way it was conducted on
IRC. Please share best practices on how to do an IRC chat well!

User:prad2609
Handheld
On Mar 16, 2012 5:00 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Pradeep, while I haven't used Google Hangout, or done videocalls with
 Skype, I'd just like to state that, IRC is nothing but a text chat.
 Like using an Instant Messenger. True, sharing files isn't easy, but
 you could use a workaround. I'm now tempted to attempt a Virtual
 Workshop over IRC.

 --
 Regards,
 Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
 Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
 Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-16 Thread sankarshan
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Pradeep Mohandas
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:
 To clarify: I have nothing against IRC. Just the way it was conducted on
 IRC. Please share best practices on how to do an IRC chat well!

Some of the projects use http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot to help
stick to the agenda as well as ensure notes being taken for the
meeting. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_communicate_using_IRC
is a simple set of guidelines that the Fedora project uses (I'm sure
that other projects have their specific 'good things to do' list as
well) and, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Schedule/MeetingGuidelines
is for a specific group within the Fedora project.

-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-16 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Pradeep, do remember it's a multiway chat system. If you feel it is
one sided, all you need to do is ask a question. A simple question can
lead to an interactive session leaving everyone satisfied.
Sankarshanan, thanks for the links. I guess we could implement
something like that.

-- 
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-15 Thread Hisham
Reminder that we are starting in 15 minutes.

Do join in!  Details below.

hisham

On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Hisham wrote:

 Gentle reminder. Do join in.
 
 hisham
 
 On Mar 11, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Hisham wrote:
 
 Hi Folks
 
 One of the essential things that India Program needs to constantly work out 
 is keeping the community informed of the work that we are doing - so that 
 this work is clearer but also to help cross-pollinate ideas amongst a wider 
 set of community members who might not have been engaged on specific village 
 pump / talk page discussion or involved in particular activities (e.g. 
 outreach events) or wikiprojects.
 
 We used to have a monthly IRC with the community and India Program.   (For 
 those who are not familiar with IRC, it is an Internet messaging system 
 similar to a regular chat room.  It's very simple to use and you can join in 
 by clicking on the following link: 
 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office.)  I have been 
 remiss in conducting these for the past few months - and I'd like to make 
 amends by restarting, with a couple of modifications.
 
 a) I'd like to propose fortnightly instead of monthly.  (I was wary of doing 
 it any more frequently than monthly earlier because I didn't know if there 
 would be enough on the plate to discuss.  I have changed my mind now - 
 because there is too much to discuss to cover in a single monthly session.)  
 I'd like to propose that we do it in the 1st and 3rd Thursdays of every 
 month at 9pm IST (which is GMT + 0530) - THOUGH NOT THIS MONTH - BECAUSE I 
 HAVE MISSED THE TIMELINE.  Just for March, we will do it on March 15th and 
 March 29th (both at 9pm IST which is GMT + 0530)
 b) I'd like to propose that we do it focussed on specific work streams 
 instead of general.  The reason I say this is that - as with many community 
 meet-ups, folks will give time to attend a meet-up or participate in an IRC 
 only if there is a topic of relevance to them.  To that extent, we could do 
 one IRC on Indic languages and one on Outreach  Communications.  I'd start 
 both the IRCs with a re-cap of India Programs activities for the fortnight 
 (or so) prior to the IRC and forward from the IRC - and then we could talk 
 about either Indic langauges or Outreach  Communications.
 
 The March 15th one will be focussed on Indic Languages and the one on March 
 29th will be on Outreach  Communications.  
 

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-15 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi,

I hope some of the IRC-veterans can pitch in here.

Not everyone is comfortable with IRC. I think these sessions will be more
helpful for all involved if we had a statement put up on a wiki or on the
mailing list by individuals who want to make these statements and then have
a round of questions around the topics (as an example: community and
outreach) which were meant to be discussed at the meeting.

Then, perhaps throw the floor open for general questions that members of
the community want to raise. I think this will make it interactive and not
be percieved as a narrative or a one-sided discussion. These may not have
been intentional and should have been raised earlier.

I hope the Office continues this practice and tries to improve its
effectiveness as they move forward.

warm regards,
User:Prad2609

On 15 March 2012 20:45, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Reminder that we are starting in 15 minutes.

 Do join in!  Details below.

 *hisham*

 On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Hisham wrote:

 Gentle reminder. Do join in.

 *hisham*

 On Mar 11, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Hisham wrote:

 Hi Folks

 One of the essential things that India Program needs to constantly work
 out is keeping the community informed of the work that we are doing - so
 that this work is clearer but also to help cross-pollinate ideas amongst a
 wider set of community members who might not have been engaged on specific
 village pump / talk page discussion or involved in particular activities
 (e.g. outreach events) or wikiprojects.

 We used to have a monthly IRC with the community and India Program.   (For
 those who are not familiar with IRC, it is an Internet messaging system
 similar to a regular chat room.  It's very simple to use and you can join
 in by clicking on the following link:*
 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office*.)  I have been
 remiss in conducting these for the past few months - and I'd like to make
 amends by restarting, with a couple of modifications.

 a) I'd like to propose fortnightly instead of monthly.  (I was wary of
 doing it any more frequently than monthly earlier because I didn't know if
 there would be enough on the plate to discuss.  I have changed my mind now
 - because there is too much to discuss to cover in a single monthly
 session.)  I'd like to propose that we do it in the 1st and 3rd Thursdays
 of every month at 9pm IST (which is GMT + 0530) - THOUGH NOT THIS MONTH -
 BECAUSE I HAVE MISSED THE TIMELINE.  Just for March, we will do it on *March
 15th* and March 29th (both at *9pm IST* which is GMT + 0530)
 b) I'd like to propose that we do it focussed on specific work streams
 instead of general.  The reason I say this is that - as with many community
 meet-ups, folks will give time to attend a meet-up or participate in an IRC
 only if there is a topic of relevance to them.  To that extent, we could do
 one IRC on Indic languages and one on Outreach  Communications.  I'd start
 both the IRCs with a re-cap of India Programs activities for the fortnight
 (or so) prior to the IRC and forward from the IRC - and then we could talk
 about either Indic langauges or Outreach  Communications.

 The *March 15th one will be focussed on Indic Languages* and the one on
 March 29th will be on Outreach  Communications.




 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l




-- 
How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
Just to chime in with some observations (empirical, possibly OT) about
means of communication. IRC is one of those elegant solutions that just
aren't everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes because they haven't tried.
Actually, it is the nearest thing to a physical meeting, with the same
rules of conduct. It requires only a minimal bandwidth connection, and
(afaik) has no limitation of people participating.

In this sense it competes headon with Hangout and so on, but, because it
has somewhat of an 'insider' perspective (entirely unearned) not many
people feel that comfortable using it. It is text only, and nobody cares if
you type slowly or badly. It is not useful for file transfers and so on, so
one cannot 'show' how something works or should work, or what the problem
is. This is usually not the purpose to which it is put, either.

The only prerequisite is that you should have something (hopefully
relevant) to say. The person choosing (or chosen) to summarise the meeting
can do as Pradeep suggested, and do so on an open wikipage which can then
be used to discuss wider, including those people who could not attend, but
feel they have not conceded the right or duty to contribute by not doing so
(maybe their mother-in-law was visiting, or something equally critical).

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Pradeep Mohandas 
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 I hope some of the IRC-veterans can pitch in here.

 Not everyone is comfortable with IRC. I think these sessions will be more
 helpful for all involved if we had a statement put up on a wiki or on the
 mailing list by individuals who want to make these statements and then have
 a round of questions around the topics (as an example: community and
 outreach) which were meant to be discussed at the meeting.

 Then, perhaps throw the floor open for general questions that members of
 the community want to raise. I think this will make it interactive and not
 be percieved as a narrative or a one-sided discussion. These may not have
 been intentional and should have been raised earlier.

 I hope the Office continues this practice and tries to improve its
 effectiveness as they move forward.

 warm regards,
 User:Prad2609

 On 15 March 2012 20:45, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Reminder that we are starting in 15 minutes.

 Do join in!  Details below.

   *hisham*

 On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Hisham wrote:

 Gentle reminder. Do join in.

   *hisham*

 On Mar 11, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Hisham wrote:

 Hi Folks

 One of the essential things that India Program needs to constantly work
 out is keeping the community informed of the work that we are doing - so
 that this work is clearer but also to help cross-pollinate ideas amongst a
 wider set of community members who might not have been engaged on specific
 village pump / talk page discussion or involved in particular activities
 (e.g. outreach events) or wikiprojects.

 We used to have a monthly IRC with the community and India Program.
   (For those who are not familiar with IRC, it is an Internet messaging
 system similar to a regular chat room.  It's very simple to use and you can
 join in by clicking on the following link:*
 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office*.)  I have been
 remiss in conducting these for the past few months - and I'd like to make
 amends by restarting, with a couple of modifications.

 a) I'd like to propose fortnightly instead of monthly.  (I was wary of
 doing it any more frequently than monthly earlier because I didn't know if
 there would be enough on the plate to discuss.  I have changed my mind now
 - because there is too much to discuss to cover in a single monthly
 session.)  I'd like to propose that we do it in the 1st and 3rd Thursdays
 of every month at 9pm IST (which is GMT + 0530) - THOUGH NOT THIS MONTH -
 BECAUSE I HAVE MISSED THE TIMELINE.  Just for March, we will do it on *March
 15th* and March 29th (both at *9pm IST* which is GMT + 0530)
 b) I'd like to propose that we do it focussed on specific work streams
 instead of general.  The reason I say this is that - as with many community
 meet-ups, folks will give time to attend a meet-up or participate in an IRC
 only if there is a topic of relevance to them.  To that extent, we could do
 one IRC on Indic languages and one on Outreach  Communications.  I'd start
 both the IRCs with a re-cap of India Programs activities for the fortnight
 (or so) prior to the IRC and forward from the IRC - and then we could talk
 about either Indic langauges or Outreach  Communications.

 The *March 15th one will be focussed on Indic Languages* and the one on
 March 29th will be on Outreach  Communications.




 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l




 --
 How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9



 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-15 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi,

I agree, Vickram. The more we use it the more we'll learn. My intention of
stating our discomfort with IRC was that the meeting on it becomes more
complicated if many people are not used to the platform. It then becomes
the question of both following a discussion and understanding and learning
about IRC. That would involve learning about too many things at the same
time.

Pradeep

On 16 March 2012 10:04, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.com wrote:

 Just to chime in with some observations (empirical, possibly OT) about
 means of communication. IRC is one of those elegant solutions that just
 aren't everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes because they haven't tried.
 Actually, it is the nearest thing to a physical meeting, with the same
 rules of conduct. It requires only a minimal bandwidth connection, and
 (afaik) has no limitation of people participating.

 In this sense it competes headon with Hangout and so on, but, because it
 has somewhat of an 'insider' perspective (entirely unearned) not many
 people feel that comfortable using it. It is text only, and nobody cares if
 you type slowly or badly. It is not useful for file transfers and so on, so
 one cannot 'show' how something works or should work, or what the problem
 is. This is usually not the purpose to which it is put, either.

 The only prerequisite is that you should have something (hopefully
 relevant) to say. The person choosing (or chosen) to summarise the meeting
 can do as Pradeep suggested, and do so on an open wikipage which can then
 be used to discuss wider, including those people who could not attend, but
 feel they have not conceded the right or duty to contribute by not doing so
 (maybe their mother-in-law was visiting, or something equally critical).


 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Pradeep Mohandas 
 pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 I hope some of the IRC-veterans can pitch in here.

 Not everyone is comfortable with IRC. I think these sessions will be more
 helpful for all involved if we had a statement put up on a wiki or on the
 mailing list by individuals who want to make these statements and then have
 a round of questions around the topics (as an example: community and
 outreach) which were meant to be discussed at the meeting.

 Then, perhaps throw the floor open for general questions that members of
 the community want to raise. I think this will make it interactive and not
 be percieved as a narrative or a one-sided discussion. These may not have
 been intentional and should have been raised earlier.

 I hope the Office continues this practice and tries to improve its
 effectiveness as they move forward.

 warm regards,
 User:Prad2609

 On 15 March 2012 20:45, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Reminder that we are starting in 15 minutes.

 Do join in!  Details below.

   *hisham*

 On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Hisham wrote:

 Gentle reminder. Do join in.

   *hisham*

 On Mar 11, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Hisham wrote:

 Hi Folks

 One of the essential things that India Program needs to constantly work
 out is keeping the community informed of the work that we are doing - so
 that this work is clearer but also to help cross-pollinate ideas amongst a
 wider set of community members who might not have been engaged on specific
 village pump / talk page discussion or involved in particular activities
 (e.g. outreach events) or wikiprojects.

 We used to have a monthly IRC with the community and India Program.
   (For those who are not familiar with IRC, it is an Internet messaging
 system similar to a regular chat room.  It's very simple to use and you can
 join in by clicking on the following link:*
 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office*.)  I have been
 remiss in conducting these for the past few months - and I'd like to make
 amends by restarting, with a couple of modifications.

 a) I'd like to propose fortnightly instead of monthly.  (I was wary of
 doing it any more frequently than monthly earlier because I didn't know if
 there would be enough on the plate to discuss.  I have changed my mind now
 - because there is too much to discuss to cover in a single monthly
 session.)  I'd like to propose that we do it in the 1st and 3rd Thursdays
 of every month at 9pm IST (which is GMT + 0530) - THOUGH NOT THIS MONTH -
 BECAUSE I HAVE MISSED THE TIMELINE.  Just for March, we will do it on *March
 15th* and March 29th (both at *9pm IST* which is GMT + 0530)
 b) I'd like to propose that we do it focussed on specific work streams
 instead of general.  The reason I say this is that - as with many community
 meet-ups, folks will give time to attend a meet-up or participate in an IRC
 only if there is a topic of relevance to them.  To that extent, we could do
 one IRC on Indic languages and one on Outreach  Communications.  I'd start
 both the IRCs with a re-cap of India Programs activities for the fortnight
 (or so) prior to the IRC and forward from the IRC - and then we could talk
 about either 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-14 Thread Hisham
Gentle reminder. Do join in.

hisham

On Mar 11, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Hisham wrote:

 Hi Folks
 
 One of the essential things that India Program needs to constantly work out 
 is keeping the community informed of the work that we are doing - so that 
 this work is clearer but also to help cross-pollinate ideas amongst a wider 
 set of community members who might not have been engaged on specific village 
 pump / talk page discussion or involved in particular activities (e.g. 
 outreach events) or wikiprojects.
 
 We used to have a monthly IRC with the community and India Program.   (For 
 those who are not familiar with IRC, it is an Internet messaging system 
 similar to a regular chat room.  It's very simple to use and you can join in 
 by clicking on the following link: 
 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-office.)  I have been remiss 
 in conducting these for the past few months - and I'd like to make amends by 
 restarting, with a couple of modifications.
 
 a) I'd like to propose fortnightly instead of monthly.  (I was wary of doing 
 it any more frequently than monthly earlier because I didn't know if there 
 would be enough on the plate to discuss.  I have changed my mind now - 
 because there is too much to discuss to cover in a single monthly session.)  
 I'd like to propose that we do it in the 1st and 3rd Thursdays of every month 
 at 9pm IST (which is GMT + 0530) - THOUGH NOT THIS MONTH - BECAUSE I HAVE 
 MISSED THE TIMELINE.  Just for March, we will do it on March 15th and March 
 29th (both at 9pm IST which is GMT + 0530)
 b) I'd like to propose that we do it focussed on specific work streams 
 instead of general.  The reason I say this is that - as with many community 
 meet-ups, folks will give time to attend a meet-up or participate in an IRC 
 only if there is a topic of relevance to them.  To that extent, we could do 
 one IRC on Indic languages and one on Outreach  Communications.  I'd start 
 both the IRCs with a re-cap of India Programs activities for the fortnight 
 (or so) prior to the IRC and forward from the IRC - and then we could talk 
 about either Indic langauges or Outreach  Communications.
 
 The March 15th one will be focussed on Indic Languages and the one on March 
 29th will be on Outreach  Communications.  

___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l