Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Medianama : "Wikimedia India Rolls Out Realtime Search; Supports Indic Editions"
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Shiju Alex wrote: > *We hope that Wikimedia works on delivering better transliteration >> support or improving the results for Indic languages. * > > > Typing scheme for Transliteration is an issue (for readers) since there is > no standard transliteration scheme for any language. For editors it is not > an issue since they use that in wiki. Providing *help link* to typing > schemes (transliteration/Inscript or other schemes) once a scheme is > selected can be one solution. But the issue here is live.wikimedia is meant > for readers. So they may not really like to go and understand the typing > scheme. So it is a tricky situation. > Hi Shiju, Will try solve the issue. http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Chapter_website_team#Live_Search_Tasks If more issues are there, please feel free to add. Thanks, naveenpf > In addition to the existing typing schemes we can think about providing > more typing schemes to readers (including the google transliteration > option, but not sure that is viable since it is not open source ). > > *However, we got accurate results with the Hindi Inscript input option.* > > > since Inscript uses same layout for all indic scripts if Inscript solution > works for Hindi then it work for all other indic languages including > Kannada. > > > > * > * > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Tinu Cherian wrote: > >> *Medianama : "Wikimedia India Rolls Out Realtime Search; Supports Indic >> Editions" >> * >> >> http://www.medianama.com/2012/03/223-wikimedia-india-rolls-out-realtime-search-supports-indic-editions/ >> >> >> *It looks like Wikimedia India has implemented a project by engineering >> student Shrey Gokani to roll out an instant search engine of its own at >> live.wikimedia.in. The site is under a creative commons license, with >> the code dual licensed under GPL and Creative Commons. The Wikimedia >> Instant site does appear to have additional functionality over Gokani’s >> version, with the ability to choose an Indic Input keyboard, since the >> service supports Indic language editions of Wikimedia services. >> >> The search engine works quite similar to Wikilive, another student >> project about which, we had written in November 2011. And similar to what >> we had wished, Wikimedia Live also covers Wikipedia, Wikitionary, >> Wikibooks, Wikiquotes, Wikiversity, Wikinews and Wikisource, and their >> Indic editions, in realtime. The site also offers other relevant Wikipedia >> search results on the top, followed by a preview of the most relevant >> Wikipedia article to the search query. >> >> >> Indic Language Support: The site allows users to type in queries in 21 >> Indic languages including Kannada, Hindi, Telugu, Marathi, Sanskrit, Bangla >> and others. How it works is that the search engine allows the user to >> choose the language of his preference, following which he has to choose an >> input script which is apt for his language. For instance, if one chooses >> Kannada as his preferred language, he has to choose between the Kannada >> transliteration option or choose the Kannada Inscript option, however if >> you choose Hindi as your preferred language, you will have to select the >> sole Hindi Inscript option. >> >> Irrelevant Results? We weren’t too happy with results generated through >> Indic language transliteration input, since it delivered wrong results in >> most cases when we gave it a spin (we tried it on OS X Lion on Google >> Chrome). We hope that Wikimedia works on delivering better transliteration >> support or improving the results for Indic languages. However, we got >> accurate results with the Hindi Inscript input option. >> >> Similar Portals: Deepanshu Mehndiratta, a second year engineering student >> at BITS-Pilani KK Birla Goa Campus, had created an instant Wikipedia search >> called ‘Wikilive‘ which allowed users to type in a search query and get >> relevant Wikipedia article and topics instantly. WikiInstant and The >> Instant Wiki are other portals which allow users to search Wikipedia in >> realtime. * >> >> >> >> Regards >> Tinu Cherian >> pr...@wikimedia.in >> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/In_the_news >> >> Important Note : Non-commercial reproduction for informative purposes >> only. The publisher ( Medianama) of the above news article owns the >> copyrights of the article / content. All copyrights are duly acknowledged. >> >> >> ___ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaind
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Medianama : "Wikimedia India Rolls Out Realtime Search; Supports Indic Editions"
> > Correct me if am wrong, this is not due to the transliteration, it might > occur for any Indic / language text which is entered through more than one > keystrore(which might include Inscript as well) due to the nature of > algorithm used for instant search?. I am not sure about the technical details of the project. Santhosh, Shreyas, Junaid, or some one else involved in this project can clarify this. What I felt is, the reader (here a Medianama employee) tried to search some article in Kannada wikipedia using Kannada transliteration scheme. He didn't got the desired results. This might have happened due to two reasons - the articles he searched might not be there in kananda wikipedia - the typing scheme he tried was different If we can enhance the typing tool as per the requirement of reader then that would be nice. Shiju On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:54, Shiju Alex wrote: > >> Irrelevant Results? We weren’t too happy with results generated through >> Indic language transliteration input > > > Correct me if am wrong, this is not due to the transliteration, it might > occur for any Indic / language text which is entered through more than one > keystrore(which might include Inscript as well) due to the nature of > algorithm used for instant search?. Somewhat relevant post by Santhosh > here[1] although its about fuzziness. > > [1] https://plus.google.com/105440198958793955794/posts/ekSPWgodBzU > > -- > Regards > Srikanth.L > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Medianama : "Wikimedia India Rolls Out Realtime Search; Supports Indic Editions"
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:54, Shiju Alex wrote: > Irrelevant Results? We weren’t too happy with results generated through > Indic language transliteration input Correct me if am wrong, this is not due to the transliteration, it might occur for any Indic / language text which is entered through more than one keystrore(which might include Inscript as well) due to the nature of algorithm used for instant search?. Somewhat relevant post by Santhosh here[1] although its about fuzziness. [1] https://plus.google.com/105440198958793955794/posts/ekSPWgodBzU -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Medianama : "Wikimedia India Rolls Out Realtime Search; Supports Indic Editions"
> > *We hope that Wikimedia works on delivering better transliteration > support or improving the results for Indic languages. * Typing scheme for Transliteration is an issue (for readers) since there is no standard transliteration scheme for any language. For editors it is not an issue since they use that in wiki. Providing *help link* to typing schemes (transliteration/Inscript or other schemes) once a scheme is selected can be one solution. But the issue here is live.wikimedia is meant for readers. So they may not really like to go and understand the typing scheme. So it is a tricky situation. In addition to the existing typing schemes we can think about providing more typing schemes to readers (including the google transliteration option, but not sure that is viable since it is not open source ). *However, we got accurate results with the Hindi Inscript input option.* since Inscript uses same layout for all indic scripts if Inscript solution works for Hindi then it work for all other indic languages including Kannada. * * On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Tinu Cherian wrote: > *Medianama : "Wikimedia India Rolls Out Realtime Search; Supports Indic > Editions" > * > > http://www.medianama.com/2012/03/223-wikimedia-india-rolls-out-realtime-search-supports-indic-editions/ > > > *It looks like Wikimedia India has implemented a project by engineering > student Shrey Gokani to roll out an instant search engine of its own at > live.wikimedia.in. The site is under a creative commons license, with the > code dual licensed under GPL and Creative Commons. The Wikimedia Instant > site does appear to have additional functionality over Gokani’s version, > with the ability to choose an Indic Input keyboard, since the service > supports Indic language editions of Wikimedia services. > > The search engine works quite similar to Wikilive, another student project > about which, we had written in November 2011. And similar to what we had > wished, Wikimedia Live also covers Wikipedia, Wikitionary, Wikibooks, > Wikiquotes, Wikiversity, Wikinews and Wikisource, and their Indic editions, > in realtime. The site also offers other relevant Wikipedia search results > on the top, followed by a preview of the most relevant Wikipedia article to > the search query. > > > Indic Language Support: The site allows users to type in queries in 21 > Indic languages including Kannada, Hindi, Telugu, Marathi, Sanskrit, Bangla > and others. How it works is that the search engine allows the user to > choose the language of his preference, following which he has to choose an > input script which is apt for his language. For instance, if one chooses > Kannada as his preferred language, he has to choose between the Kannada > transliteration option or choose the Kannada Inscript option, however if > you choose Hindi as your preferred language, you will have to select the > sole Hindi Inscript option. > > Irrelevant Results? We weren’t too happy with results generated through > Indic language transliteration input, since it delivered wrong results in > most cases when we gave it a spin (we tried it on OS X Lion on Google > Chrome). We hope that Wikimedia works on delivering better transliteration > support or improving the results for Indic languages. However, we got > accurate results with the Hindi Inscript input option. > > Similar Portals: Deepanshu Mehndiratta, a second year engineering student > at BITS-Pilani KK Birla Goa Campus, had created an instant Wikipedia search > called ‘Wikilive‘ which allowed users to type in a search query and get > relevant Wikipedia article and topics instantly. WikiInstant and The > Instant Wiki are other portals which allow users to search Wikipedia in > realtime. * > > > > Regards > Tinu Cherian > pr...@wikimedia.in > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/In_the_news > > Important Note : Non-commercial reproduction for informative purposes > only. The publisher ( Medianama) of the above news article owns the > copyrights of the article / content. All copyrights are duly acknowledged. > > > ___ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
