Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Blatant misinformation and vandalism of India articles on Wikipedia

[Pradeep Mohandas]

hi,

Thank you for the timely response. I have not pointed the user to this mailing 
list yet and have used your text to reply to him.

Working on space and astronomy articles, I have been in calm waters (notice the 
maritime influence) thus far and am not really geared towards addressing such 
issues on my own.

Thanks,
Pradeep Mohandas
User:Prad2609


From: srik@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:19:16 +0530
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Blatant misinformation and vandalism of 
India articles on Wikipedia



On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 22:07, Pradeep Mohandas  
wrote:







hi,

I got this email from a user. I have pointed him/her to the mailing list and am 
sharing it here.

I seriously dont think this mailing list is a venue for content debates. if a 
user has content debates, he must approach the existing structures within the 
community like (ARBCOM, Mediation) in case of content disputes and ANI in case 
of complaints against specific users / other issues.

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Regards
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Blatant misinformation and vandalism of India articles on Wikipedia

[Ashwin Baindur]

My edits are NPOV and open to inspection. I donot edit war.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 22:25, Ashwin Baindur wrote:
>
>> Correction for "WikiConference wars" read "WikiConference sessions". As
>> you can see from my edit history, I was heavily involved in editting
>> Indo-Pak wars a little while ago and the word slipped out. Let me confirm
>> there were no wars in the WikiConference.
>
>
> Agreed Colonel. You shouldnt probably be editing wars due to CoI ;)
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Blatant misinformation and vandalism of India articles on Wikipedia

[Srikanth Lakshmanan]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 22:25, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> Correction for "WikiConference wars" read "WikiConference sessions". As
> you can see from my edit history, I was heavily involved in editting
> Indo-Pak wars a little while ago and the word slipped out. Let me confirm
> there were no wars in the WikiConference.


Agreed Colonel. You shouldnt probably be editing wars due to CoI ;)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Blatant misinformation and vandalism of India articles on Wikipedia

[Ashwin Baindur]

Correction for "WikiConference wars" read "WikiConference sessions". As you
can see from my edit history, I was heavily involved in editting Indo-Pak
wars a little while ago and the word slipped out. Let me confirm there were
no wars in the WikiConference.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Ashwin Baindur
wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> most of you know me by my user id, AshLin or have met me in the
> WikiConference wars.
>
> I must ask editor's to not get duly influenced by one editor's response.
> If Frustrated Editor has issues, let him take Fowler&fowler to ANI or to
> India Noticeboard. Fowler&fowler has on the whole maintained a neutral,
> representative and high quality "India." He has gone to great trouble to
> get highly reliable sources, wonderful images and good language on India
> article.
>
> Frustrated Editor is completely anonymous, while that may be permitted on
> Wikipedia, he is not visible to stand by his statements to this community,
> he remains cloaked in anonymity, he has NOT given his own user id.
>
> Statements like India is "It is heavily biased and doesn't mention the
> fact that India is the oldest and the oldest continuing civilization in
> history" is completely POV, nor does he give reliable source citations to
> support his claim. The "emerging superpower" crap is another of the urban
> legends people want to add.
>
> Only one example is given & stated out of context. Fowler has shortened it
> as per the tone of the article. If the user feels so concerned about it,
> let him reveal himself on India Noticeboard & article talk page & take it
> up for discussing. BTW canvassing is against Wikipedia policies too.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
> pradeep.mohan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  hi,
>>
>> I got this email from a user. I have pointed him/her to the mailing list
>> and am sharing it here.
>>
>> warm regards,
>> Pradeep
>>
>> User:Prad2609
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: *Frankly Idontcare* 
>> Date: 22 November 2011 18:50
>> Subject: Blatant misinformation and vandalism of India articles on
>> Wikipedia
>> To: "pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com" 
>>
>>
>> Dear Pradeep Mohandas,
>>
>> I got your e-mail address from your user page on 
>> wikipedia. I
>> understand that you were involved in the Wikipedia conference that was held
>> in Mumbai in November 2011. This should mean that you are part of
>> Wikipedia. I have to bring to your attention, an issue, that has been
>> bothering me from a long time.
>>
>> There are a few administrators on Wikipedia who "legally vandalise" pages
>> related to India and block anyone who disagrees with their point of view.
>> (POV) For example, if you view the 
>> "India"
>> article on Wikipedia, you will notice that the introduction does not do
>> justice to what is arguably the greatest civilization in world history. It
>> is heavily biased and doesn't mention the fact that India is the oldest and
>> the oldest continuing civilization in history. It doesn't mention the fact
>> that India is an emerging superpower. The page is being constantly
>> monitored and vandalised by a group of users/administrators who seem to
>> have an inherent bias towards India. I tried editing the page, but was
>> unable to do so because of the following users: 
>> Fowler&fowler
>> , Saravask , 
>> Quigley,
>> Elockid and 
>> ElockidAlternate.
>> Of all the mentioned users,  
>> Fowler&fowler
>>  and Elockid   (
>> ElockidAlternate  is
>> his alternate account) are by FAR, the worst. they seem to have something
>> against India and Indians.  
>> Fowler&fowler has
>> continually uploaded offensive images in the demographics and economy
>> sectionof the India article and made disparaging remarks about India and
>> Indians! He is an administrator!!
>>
>> Moving on to Elockid  and
>> ElockidAlternate  (same
>> user with another account). Go through the Economic History of India
>> article. Under
>> GDP Estimate, the following sentence was deleted by 
>> ElockidAlternate
>> :
>>
>> "*According to economic historian Angus Maddiso

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Blatant misinformation and vandalism of India articles on Wikipedia

[Ashwin Baindur]

Hi there,

most of you know me by my user id, AshLin or have met me in the
WikiConference wars.

I must ask editor's to not get duly influenced by one editor's response. If
Frustrated Editor has issues, let him take Fowler&fowler to ANI or to India
Noticeboard. Fowler&fowler has on the whole maintained a neutral,
representative and high quality "India." He has gone to great trouble to
get highly reliable sources, wonderful images and good language on India
article.

Frustrated Editor is completely anonymous, while that may be permitted on
Wikipedia, he is not visible to stand by his statements to this community,
he remains cloaked in anonymity, he has NOT given his own user id.

Statements like India is "It is heavily biased and doesn't mention the fact
that India is the oldest and the oldest continuing civilization in history"
is completely POV, nor does he give reliable source citations to support
his claim. The "emerging superpower" crap is another of the urban legends
people want to add.

Only one example is given & stated out of context. Fowler has shortened it
as per the tone of the article. If the user feels so concerned about it,
let him reveal himself on India Noticeboard & article talk page & take it
up for discussing. BTW canvassing is against Wikipedia policies too.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  hi,
>
> I got this email from a user. I have pointed him/her to the mailing list
> and am sharing it here.
>
> warm regards,
> Pradeep
>
> User:Prad2609
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: *Frankly Idontcare* 
> Date: 22 November 2011 18:50
> Subject: Blatant misinformation and vandalism of India articles on
> Wikipedia
> To: "pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com" 
>
>
> Dear Pradeep Mohandas,
>
> I got your e-mail address from your user page on 
> wikipedia. I
> understand that you were involved in the Wikipedia conference that was held
> in Mumbai in November 2011. This should mean that you are part of
> Wikipedia. I have to bring to your attention, an issue, that has been
> bothering me from a long time.
>
> There are a few administrators on Wikipedia who "legally vandalise" pages
> related to India and block anyone who disagrees with their point of view.
> (POV) For example, if you view the "India"
> article on Wikipedia, you will notice that the introduction does not do
> justice to what is arguably the greatest civilization in world history. It
> is heavily biased and doesn't mention the fact that India is the oldest and
> the oldest continuing civilization in history. It doesn't mention the fact
> that India is an emerging superpower. The page is being constantly
> monitored and vandalised by a group of users/administrators who seem to
> have an inherent bias towards India. I tried editing the page, but was
> unable to do so because of the following users: 
> Fowler&fowler
> , Saravask , 
> Quigley,
> Elockid and 
> ElockidAlternate.
> Of all the mentioned users,  
> Fowler&fowler
>  and Elockid   (
> ElockidAlternate  is
> his alternate account) are by FAR, the worst. they seem to have something
> against India and Indians.  
> Fowler&fowler has
> continually uploaded offensive images in the demographics and economy
> sectionof the India article and made disparaging remarks about India and
> Indians! He is an administrator!!
>
> Moving on to Elockid  and
> ElockidAlternate  (same
> user with another account). Go through the Economic History of India
> article. Under
> GDP Estimate, the following sentence was deleted by 
> ElockidAlternate
> :
>
> "*According to economic historian Angus Maddison in his book ''The World
> Economy: A Millennial Perspective'', India had the world's largest economy
> from the first to the 18th century, with a (32.9%) share of world [[GDP]]
> in the 1st century to (28.9%) in 1000 AD, and in 1700 AD with (24.4%).*"
> The World Economy: Historical Statistics, Angus Maddison"
>
> and this sentence was replaced by:
>
> *"According to economic historian Angus Maddison in his book Contours of
> the world economy, 1-2030 AD: essays in macro-economic history, India had
> the world's largest eco

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FW: Blatant misinformation and vandalism of India articles on Wikipedia

[Srikanth Lakshmanan]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 22:07, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  hi,
>
> I got this email from a user. I have pointed him/her to the mailing list
> and am sharing it here.
>

I seriously dont think this mailing list is a venue for content debates. if
a user has content debates, he must approach the existing structures within
the community like (ARBCOM, Mediation) in case of content disputes and ANI
in case of complaints against specific users / other issues.

-- 
Regards
Srikanth.L
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