Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 1079, Issue 1

2016-04-22 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
I need to correct one thing. 'Siska.Doviana' is primarily her WMID work
account. Siska has been contributing prolifically to Wikimedia projects
since 2006.

That said, both of the candidates that you prefer are very good choices
IMO. ;)
On 28 Mar 2016 20:43, "Bodhisattwa Mandal" 
wrote:

Hi all,


I have gone through the nomination page and questions asked to the
candidates. My choice would be* Nataliia Tymkiv* and *Kunal Mehta. *

Both these candidates are well aware of the declining relationship among
community, staff and WMF and want to solve them in a transparent wiki way.
Both their answers seemed practical to me and I think, if they are
selected, they would make a difference.

A newcomer Nataliia's stand against Wikimedia Ukraine ED Yury Perohanych's
whimsical approach to community members in 2013 is also worth mentioning.
Salute!
(
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations/Nataliia_Tymkiv#Deletion_of_the_Bible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_149#a_simple_question_.28i_hope.29_that_can_be_a_tricky_one_.28i_fear.29
)

Kunal Mehta is a WMF staff as well as an active Wikimedia volunteer, a
combination we obviously need in a BoT member. He has closely observed the
crises built in foundation and in my opinion, has more insights in this
matter than other candidates.

Other candidates, except few, are also active Wikipedians in their way and
if I had another option, I would preferred Osmar Valdebenito.

--

P.S.

Satdeep and Sudhanwa preferred Siska Doviana. With all due respect,
personally I am not fond of those Wikimedians who are not/less active
on-wiki and still are/were EC members of different Wikimedia chapters. I
know, that global edit-count is not the best indicator for Wikimedia
involvement, but on-wiki involvement helps Wikimedians know the dynamics of
the community, realize common community problems by heart and look for
solution collaboratively. To me, if you are an EC member, then you have
more reason to edit on-wiki (not only meta), because that only makes you
build the bond with community members.

In this context, I will *NOT* recommend WMIN to support Siska Doviana from
WMID, who has only around 3,300 global edits!!.
(
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuth=Siska.Doviana)

I also do not support her initiative, stated in her nomination talk page,
about providing huge amount of money to winners of content competition. To
me, its a way to trigger dangerous practice in wiki world.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations/Siska_Doviana#Content%20adding


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 1079, Issue 1

2016-04-01 Thread Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Hi,

[snip]

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I have gone through the nomination page and questions asked to the
> candidates. My choice would be* Nataliia Tymkiv* and *Kunal Mehta. *
> Other candidates, except few, are also active Wikipedians in their way and
> if I had another option, I would preferred Osmar Valdebenito.
>
> --
>
...


>
> P.S.
>
> Satdeep and Sudhanwa preferred Siska Doviana. With all due respect,
> personally I am not fond of those Wikimedians who are not/less active
> on-wiki and still are/were EC members of different Wikimedia chapters. I
> know, that global edit-count is not the best indicator for Wikimedia
> involvement, but on-wiki involvement helps Wikimedians know the dynamics of
> the community, realize common community problems by heart and look for
> solution collaboratively. To me, if you are an EC member, then you have
> more reason to edit on-wiki (not only meta), because that only makes you
> build the bond with community members.
>

On-wiki activities and off-wiki activities are a completely different ball
game. Connect to the community is also different in both. A great editor
may not be good in compliance like filling up various forms, sending all
kinds of bills/documents to the organisation (WMIN or WMF etc etc) There
you require a off-wiki person who can do followup to get all the documents,
interact with various organisations/agencies/consultants etc. Deciding on
various grants, giving infrastructure support to editors is an off-wiki
activity too.  Running an organisation is completely different than editing
wikipedia.

And of course your opinions are respected. WMIN will have its own opinion
on various issues.

Regards
-Sudhanwa





>
>
>
>
>
In this context, I will *NOT* recommend WMIN to support Siska Doviana from
> WMID, who has only around 3,300 global edits!!.
> (
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuth=Siska.Doviana)
>
> I also do not support her initiative, stated in her nomination talk page,
> about providing huge amount of money to winners of content competition. To
> me, its a way to trigger dangerous practice in wiki world.
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations/Siska_Doviana#Content%20adding
>
> 
>
> --
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 1079, Issue 1

2016-03-28 Thread Bodhisattwa Mandal
Hi all,


I have gone through the nomination page and questions asked to the
candidates. My choice would be* Nataliia Tymkiv* and *Kunal Mehta. *

Both these candidates are well aware of the declining relationship among
community, staff and WMF and want to solve them in a transparent wiki way.
Both their answers seemed practical to me and I think, if they are
selected, they would make a difference.

A newcomer Nataliia's stand against Wikimedia Ukraine ED Yury Perohanych's
whimsical approach to community members in 2013 is also worth mentioning.
Salute!
(
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations/Nataliia_Tymkiv#Deletion_of_the_Bible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_149#a_simple_question_.28i_hope.29_that_can_be_a_tricky_one_.28i_fear.29
)

Kunal Mehta is a WMF staff as well as an active Wikimedia volunteer, a
combination we obviously need in a BoT member. He has closely observed the
crises built in foundation and in my opinion, has more insights in this
matter than other candidates.

Other candidates, except few, are also active Wikipedians in their way and
if I had another option, I would preferred Osmar Valdebenito.

--

P.S.

Satdeep and Sudhanwa preferred Siska Doviana. With all due respect,
personally I am not fond of those Wikimedians who are not/less active
on-wiki and still are/were EC members of different Wikimedia chapters. I
know, that global edit-count is not the best indicator for Wikimedia
involvement, but on-wiki involvement helps Wikimedians know the dynamics of
the community, realize common community problems by heart and look for
solution collaboratively. To me, if you are an EC member, then you have
more reason to edit on-wiki (not only meta), because that only makes you
build the bond with community members.

In this context, I will *NOT* recommend WMIN to support Siska Doviana from
WMID, who has only around 3,300 global edits!!.
(
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACentralAuth=Siska.Doviana)

I also do not support her initiative, stated in her nomination talk page,
about providing huge amount of money to winners of content competition. To
me, its a way to trigger dangerous practice in wiki world.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominations/Siska_Doviana#Content%20adding


-- 
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