Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] report on consultation re: Indian Languages in Higher Education

2013-03-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Thank you very much for this article. Information about the usage of
the languages of India in different social contexts, and especially in
education, is very useful for my work.

The impression that I had about the state of local languages in India
is that English is used a lot even though not everybody knows it
sufficiently. This articles more or less confirms this impression and
substantiates it with data. It was also very interesting to read about
the concept of homolinguality.

I can't say this strongly enough: I'd love to see more research of
this kind coming from Wikimedia India, CIS, and other organizations in
the field.

--
Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
‪“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬


2013/3/16 Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in:
 Hope this will be of interest. Just published in the Economic and Political
 Weekly.

 --
 Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
 Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
 (HEIRA)
 Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
 Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
 Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
 of Science (CCS-IISc)

 t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
 f: 91-80-26730722
 http://heira.in
 www.cscs.res.in
 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] report on consultation re: Indian Languages in Higher Education

2013-03-16 Thread Tejaswini Niranjana
Thanks for the affirmative mail, Amir.

Although most Indians speak at least three to four languages, and some are
quite bilingual in English and an Indian language, the bilingualism doesn't
translate into bi-literacy (if I may coin a term). Because tertiary
education is mandated to be in English, people end up not knowing - or
having forgotten - how to write in an Indian language, which is a key
problem for growing Wikimedia content in these languages.

Here is a newspaper article commenting on the data gathered by the 2001
national Census:
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-03-14/india/28117934_1_second-language-speakers-urdu


On 16 March 2013 18:02, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.ilwrote:

 Thank you very much for this article. Information about the usage of
 the languages of India in different social contexts, and especially in
 education, is very useful for my work.

 The impression that I had about the state of local languages in India
 is that English is used a lot even though not everybody knows it
 sufficiently. This articles more or less confirms this impression and
 substantiates it with data. It was also very interesting to read about
 the concept of homolinguality.

 I can't say this strongly enough: I'd love to see more research of
 this kind coming from Wikimedia India, CIS, and other organizations in
 the field.

 --
 Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
 http://aharoni.wordpress.com
 ‪“We're living in pieces,
 I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬


 2013/3/16 Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in:
  Hope this will be of interest. Just published in the Economic and
 Political
  Weekly.
 
  --
  Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
  Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
  (HEIRA)
  Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
  Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
  Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
  of Science (CCS-IISc)
 
  t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
  f: 91-80-26730722
  http://heira.in
  www.cscs.res.in
  ___
  Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
  Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
  https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
 

 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l




-- 
Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
(HEIRA)
Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
of Science (CCS-IISc)

t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
f: 91-80-26730722
http://heira.in
www.cscs.res.in
___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] report on consultation re: Indian Languages in Higher Education

2013-03-16 Thread Tejaswini Niranjana
This is a difficult question! But let me share a few preliminary thoughts.

I have helped to host a couple of digital literacy workshops (including
Wikipedia editing) and will be planning more in at least five languages.
Some learnings from work already done:

--Student interest/motivation relates to the relevance of the material they
are producing (relevance: to a better grasp of their curriculum, to topics
that connect to their daily lives - as students, as young people)

--They do get excited by the idea that they can contribute to assembling
knowledge on a platform that makes it so widely available

--Motivation is high when entries come out of research projects they have
undertaken either as part of college work or as part of co-curricular
activities

--Using wikipedia editing as part of a more general research training
programme is also helpful

My colleagues and I have worked with students in remote colleges whose
primary language is not English. These students are more interested in
contributing material in Indian languages than those who have been educated
mainly in English medium. Since they hear so much about how they cannot be
socially mobile because they don't know English well, they do feel
encouraged and validated when they are able to communicate the work they
have done in a language they are comfortable with.



On 16 March 2013 18:56, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.inwrote:

 Hope this will be of interest. Just published in the Economic and
 Political Weekly.


 And, also at 
 http://www.epw.in/commentary/indian-languages-indian-higher-education.html
 You mention Creation of Indian language materials by students could also
 be an invaluable resource; this could include Wikipedia entries,
 audiovisual resources, and compilations of material on peer-to-peer
 learning platforms. - I would like to know your thoughts about what around
 the motivations/incentives that would facilitate the creation of new
 content in Indian languages by students.


 --
 sankarshan mukhopadhyay
 https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan

 ___
 Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
 Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
 https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l




-- 
Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
(HEIRA)
Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
of Science (CCS-IISc)

t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
f: 91-80-26730722
http://heira.in
www.cscs.res.in
___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l


Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] report on consultation re: Indian Languages in Higher Education

2013-03-16 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
2013/3/16 Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.in

 Hope this will be of interest. Just published in the Economic and
 Political Weekly.

 Thanks Tejaswini for the paper. All the best for the inititaive.

One key step that was missed out in the past digitization initiatives was
making the meta data  about the book (title, author) available in the
language of the book.  Accomplishing that step alone could help  the lndian
language users in accessing the already digitized content. The next step is
transcripting the Indian language content from the digitized scans.

In Telugu, I initiated these steps  using  WIkisource project.
A 1910 book on History of Andhras (Telugu Title: Andhurla-Charitramu Part
1)  by Chilukuri Veerabhadra rao was
transcribedhttp://te.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B0%86%E0%B0%82%E0%B0%A7%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B0%E0%B1%81%E0%B0%B2_%E0%B0%9A%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%A4%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%AE%E0%B1%81_-_%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%A5%E0%B0%AE_%E0%B0%AD%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%97%E0%B0%AE%E0%B1%81.
The transcription of meta
datahttp://te.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%B8%E0%B1%8B%E0%B0%B0%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B8%E0%B1%8D:%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%9C%E0%B1%86%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%9F%E0%B1%8D/%E0%B0%86%E0%B0%B0%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%80%E0%B0%B5%E0%B1%8D.%E0%B0%86%E0%B0%B0%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%97%E0%B1%8D_%E0%B0%B2%E0%B1%8B%E0%B0%A8%E0%B0%BF_%E0%B0%A4%E0%B1%86%E0%B0%B2%E0%B1%81%E0%B0%97%E0%B1%81_%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%81%E0%B0%B8%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%A4%E0%B0%95%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%B2%E0%B1%81of
the Telugu titles available in
archive.org is initiated.

Cheers
Arjuna
___
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l