Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK Wikipedians in Residence

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012-13_Wikipedians_in_Residence Wikimedia UK has a budget of £15,000 to support Wikimedians in residence up until January 31st 2013. We expect to allocate funds in the 2013-14 budget to continue the work. For full details of what t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ENGAGE 2012: Responding to Change

On 26/10/12 18:05, Paul Wilkinson wrote: I am also a PR person and a Wikipedian (user "Paul W" - since 2003). I introduced myself to David Gerrard at a CIPR/Wikipedia event during London Social Media Week and he encouraged me to make myself known. *Ducks down below parapet again* David

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gazette of board decisions on Monmouth, Gibraltar at QR.

On 25/10/12 18:59, Jon Davies wrote: They will in any case being going back to zero and creating their own chronology. Jon. Like Pol Pot? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digest of board decisions regarding Monmouth, Gibraltar and QR codes

On 25/10/12 17:11, Jon Davies wrote: One person has a very strong objection and since it is all public anyway and accessible through the board minutes I responded to that person's honest objections by withdrawing what is an incomplete document. But, of course, the document could have been copied

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board

On 23/10/12 22:31, Thomas Dalton wrote: We could have quarterly general meetings if we wanted to. We don't need to change legal structure for that. But stakeholder groups in CICS can be a subset of the membership, I believe. The CIC decides at the start how to run the stakeholder function.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board

On 23/10/12 17:45, Thomas Dalton wrote: What do you want to ask the charity commission? I think the guidance is pretty clear. You just need to have it written down somewhere what their role is and what authority they have (ie. none). I would ask them, given the current age of the charity,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board

On 23/10/12 16:26, David Gerard wrote: On 23 October 2012 16:19, Gordon Joly wrote: Advisory board? Why? Why not just put petrol on the flames? A charity that is as small as Wikimedia U.K. has no need of more dimensions of governance... An advisory board is conventionally "advisory&

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board

Advisory board? Why? Why not just put petrol on the flames? A charity that is as small as Wikimedia U.K. has no need of more dimensions of governance... IMHO, Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.

[Wikimediauk-l] London pub meetups, November and December 2012

4th Birthday bash, with cake? See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/63 December meeting - note change of pub! http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/64 * There has been a lot of talk about the pros and cons of Penderel's Oak, so in December 2012, we will try Shakesp

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

On 18/10/12 00:11, Alison M. Wheeler wrote: Truth. I just checked wherehttp://geoiplookup.wikimedia.org/ believes my (fixed) IP addresses are. "Truro" is the response! (I'm actually just north of London). Geolocation has been something of an interest of mine for a few years and whilst sub-cou

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

On 16/10/12 13:24, Thomas Dalton wrote: It is very difficult to accurately identify geographic locations within the UK. IP addresses are generally assigned from an ISPs pool which they use nationwide, so they just identify to wherever the ISP is based. Not the datacenter (first hop)? I did find

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 15 October 2012 14:57, Gordon Joly <mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com>> wrote: Fixed. I restarted my BT equipment, got a brand new I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

Fixed. I restarted my BT equipment, got a brand new IP address, and it works... Huzzah! Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

On 15/10/12 14:07, Harry Burt wrote: Hi Gorgo, What does http://geoiplookup.wikimedia.org report for you? The database is usually pretty accurate. Harry Geo = {"city":"London","country":"GB","lat":"51.514198","lon":"-0.093100","IP":"86.157.yyy.xxx","netmask":"22"} Looks like that is cor

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

On 15/10/12 13:28, Craig Franklin wrote: Geonotices are only as good as the database underneath. If the IP database doesn't think you're in London, no amount of tinkering with skins will fix that. Cheers, Craig Franklin I see. So in what sense is this a good communications tool? Can I en

[Wikimediauk-l] Geonotices.

I have problem with geonotices. I cannot see them (in my watchlist). Tried Chrome on Ubuntu, Firefox on a Mac, and still I cannot see them. My IP address is clearly in the UK range (in London, I believe). I have tried different skins, added some CSS, created a new account. Still no luck.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A message from the Wikimedia UK Board

There is, of course, an inquiry underway on that precise question. So everything is sub judice? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

On 09/10/12 13:36, Gordon Joly wrote: On 09/10/12 11:02, Richard Symonds wrote: Asaf is more than happy to meet anyone today or tomorrow. He's actually really keen to do so! OK. I will be there Wednesday afternoon. Gordo We met, we chatted.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Wikimeet, November 11th and Wikimedia UK 4th Anniversary.

On 11/10/12 09:55, Hasina Khatun wrote: Sorry for the late reply. The booking has been made for the downstairs area. I will also leave a note before I leave to the office, to call before The Penderal's Oak meet up to make sure they are still aware of the booking. So. downstairs room book

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

On 09/10/12 14:31, David Gerard wrote: Media storms were fun when I was the only person on hand to do telly ... Like I said, move the offices to Salford. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailm

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

On 09/10/12 13:37, WereSpielChequers wrote: But shifting the office is a bigger job, and wherever the office is we will have spontaneous meetings taking place. Salford? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wiki

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

On 09/10/12 11:02, Richard Symonds wrote: Asaf is more than happy to meet anyone today or tomorrow. He's actually really keen to do so! OK. I will be there Wednesday afternoon. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http:/

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On 09/10/12 12:31, Richard Symonds wrote: As far as I am aware a resignation offer has not been publicly minuted, but that may well be because the minutes from the meeting in question are still being drafted (and certainly haven't been approved!) My collection was that Roger Bamkin's resignati

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Urgent: Drinks with Sue Gardener, Garfield, Asaf & WMUK

On 08/10/12 15:52, Richard Symonds wrote: Sue Gardner, from the WMF, is in our office today, along with a few others (Garfield and Asaf from the WMF). She's keen to meet UK Wikipedians for a drink - is anyone available for drinks in the Old Street area of London this afternoon/evening? If so,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On 08/10/12 10:45, Thomas Dalton wrote: It is clear that the board protected Roger. It is not clear that they did so because of an overfamiliarity among the board. I think they probably thought they were just being supportive colleagues. Well put. Gordo _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On 08/10/12 10:39, David Gerard wrote: Yes indeed. However, this does not constitute substantiating evidence for your claim, as you have even quoted above. Do please try again. Sorry David. I will not try again. Many thanks for the offer. Gordo ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On 08/10/12 10:35, David Gerard wrote: On 8 October 2012 09:09, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

Have I? Gordo On 08/10/12 09:09, Andy Mabbett wrote: You've obviously seen some evidence that the rest of us have not. Perhaps it's time you shared that with us. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Oct 7, 2012 8:24 PM, "Gordon Joly" <mailt

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On being social? Should Trustees, member and the wider community be social? I was very social with Roger Bamkin and everybody else at the AGM in Bristol in April (in the bar after the meeting). Many people have problems with being social (lack of money, social skills, phobias, being "cold s

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On 07/10/12 22:34, Roger Bamkin wrote: Hi Gordan I thought your comment was a bit uncalled for. Good think that I did not make. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

It seems clear that being friends allows a group to protect an individual, when that person (e.g. Roger Bamkin) should asked to consider his position. It appears that he was protected. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.o

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On 07/10/12 19:55, Thomas Dalton wrote: Then what were you disagreeing with? I am suggesting that Trustees should be colleagues, and not friends. That allows for full, frank, and professional discussion. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On 07/10/12 19:39, Thomas Dalton wrote: Please elaborate. I'm not on the WMUK board any more, but when I was I was frequently involved in decisions about other UK volunteers, other chapters, the WMF, the WMUK board itself, and all kinds of other groups any bodies which include people I am friends

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On 07/10/12 14:39, Thomas Dalton wrote: Just being friends with someone that has an interest in an issue can't be considered a conflict. That would make it impossible for anyone to ever act! I disagree, YMMV, Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing lis

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposal of trustees collective responsibility

On 07/10/12 14:03, Roger Bamkin wrote: The whole point of excluding those who have declared COI is to allow the other trustees to vote without influence from the excluded trustee. But don't you all go down the pub afterwards? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Wikimeet, November 11th and Wikimedia UK 4th Anniversary.

On 04/10/12 12:23, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 4 October 2012 11:27, Hasina Khatun wrote: Hello, Just to keep you updated the Penderal's Oak has been booked for the 11th November. Just the cake now :) Great, thanks! You should probably call them a couple of days before to confirm, since they have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Social enterprise

On 03/10/12 12:07, Thomas Dalton wrote: It would be better for a social enterprise of Wikimedians to be providing that paid consultancy than some of the other people trying to offer such services. Sounds very much like GNU and Cygnus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygnus_Solutions Gordo ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Social enterprise

On 03/10/12 11:53, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote: I am particularly interested in developing a service to deliver training in use of Mediawiki technology with reference to specific platforms - i.e.Wikipedia and its sister sites, but also other projects such as Wikivet: http://en.wikivet.net/Vete

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Wikimeet, November 11th and Wikimedia UK 4th Anniversary.

On 03/10/12 12:54, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 3 October 2012 12:25, Hasina Khatun wrote: Hi, I was just wondering if I need to wait for this budget before I go ahead and make the booking at the Penderel's Oak and order a cake. If we're going with Penderal's Oak, then I don't think there is a cha

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Daily Telegraph error

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/9581813/Wikipedia-charity-faces-investigation-over-trustee-conflict-of-interest.html Bit long? bit.ly has three saves already! Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org htt

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Wikimeet, November 11th and Wikimedia UK 4th Anniversary.

On 02/10/12 14:51, Michael Peel wrote: On 2 Oct 2012, at 14:33, Gordon Joly wrote: >On 02/10/12 14:21, Jon Davies wrote: >>Ask Mike Peel about a special project grant. >OK. Mike, what say you? Sounds good, but please can you ask me via a microgrant application, with a budget

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

On 02/10/12 23:03, Andrew Turvey wrote: after all a constitution is not something that we should tinker with lightly, hence the requirement for it to pass with a 75% change. 75% of those present and voting (and those voting by proxy?)? Gordo ___ Wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Wikimeet, November 11th and Wikimedia UK 4th Anniversary.

On 02/10/12 14:21, Jon Davies wrote: Ask Mike Peel about a special project grant. OK. Mike, what say you? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikime

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

This could run and run! How about a guillotine motion? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

[Wikimediauk-l] London Wikimeet, November 11th and Wikimedia UK 4th Anniversary.

Is it now agreed that the London Wikimeet will be the time to celebrate four years of Wikimedia UK (5th November 2008)? WIKIMEDIA U.K. Company No. 06741827 Are there any funds to support a special meetup (Jon)? Is the current default venue suitable? There has been some discussion on the me

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Joint statement with the Foundation

What I can certainly see is a fragmented 2012 fundraiser, with certain donors staying with WMUK and others switching to WMF because that's where the default landing page now points them to. Lots of returning donors will be very very confused either because they can't gift-aid their donation

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CityCamp Coventry

On 25/09/12 16:57, HJ Mitchell wrote: If the policy is inadequate, it should be modified, but until it is, it should be applied to every case. From: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Finance_Policy_2012 . "All claims for reimbursement will be paid, unless disputed, by BACS or through petty

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Birthday

On 25/09/12 07:39, David Gerard wrote: On 25 September 2012 07:21, Gordon Joly wrote: On 24/09/12 12:21, David Gerard wrote: I've been at meets for other things up to about 12-13 people around one of the big round tables and the main inconvenience is sending someone to get the drinks.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Birthday

On 24/09/12 12:21, David Gerard wrote: I've been at meets for other things up to about 12-13 people around one of the big round tables and the main inconvenience is sending someone to get the drinks. There is an assumption here that drinks are bought in rounds. I think the culture of the London

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

On 19/09/12 07:59, Doug Weller wrote: I see a request to block Roger's User:Victuallers account as it is in contravention of our Username policy on promotional names - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username_policy#Promotional_names Normally for an account this old (2007) we might not as

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

On 17/09/12 23:23, rexx wrote: He's mistaken. There is no mechanism in place for generating income from the domains qrpedia.org and qrwp.org . Commentators also need to differentiate between the site (which physically hosts the servers) and the domain names

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

On 17/09/12 22:24, James Farrar wrote: Now that I am no longer in the process of getting married, I can start making some progress on this. Congratulations! Doubly so! Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikim

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

On 17/09/12 21:48, Chris Keating wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Lodewijk > wrote: Chris, if I may at least ask for a very short clarification of the no: are you confirming there has been no communication/decision on the issue on board leve

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

On 17/09/12 20:37, Chris Keating wrote: To further clarify - we are not really talking about intellectual property rights. We are talking about the domains currently used to provide the qrpedia service, which are qrpedia.org and qrwp.org . I like the w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

On 17/09/12 20:34, Chris Keating wrote: and will provide a firm basis for the growing use of Wikipedia-linked QR codes in future. This issue has always been on my mind. The use of a code requires a method to decode and produce a result. In general terms, QR Codes resolve to *text* *strin

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

Therefore >>>> "Make it so" Jean-Luc Picard Gordo On 18/09/12 08:55, Jon Davies wrote: Indeed - I think it is even mentioned in one of our many governance documents. On 18 September 2012 08:52, Gordon Joly <mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com>> wrote:

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

Whilst there may be no precise misdemeanor, can we assume that our charity (Wikimedia UK) follows and applies the Nolan Principles to all Trustees? http://www.archive.official-documents.co.uk/document/parlment/nolan/nolan.htm Gordo ___ Wikimed

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

On 17/09/12 12:48, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Thomas Dalton mailto:thomas.dal...@gmail.com>> wrote: Accidentally sent offlist... Same thing happened to me yesterday ... I clicked Reply, and it went to a list member's private mail account, rather than the list

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

On 17/09/12 02:09, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Jimbo has commented on his talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Gibraltarpedia.2C_Wikimedia_UK_and_concerns_about_paid_editing_and_conflicts_of_interest_within_Wikimedia_UK Andreas So nice to agree with Jimbo. Paid work a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

On 16/09/12 20:02, Thomas Dalton wrote: Since Roger is, I understand, being paid by the Government of Gibraltar to work on GibraltapediA, I think this constitutes paid editing. And in no way conflicts with his legal status as a Trustee? Gordo ___ Wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photos of politicians?

On 12/09/12 10:45, David Gerard wrote: We still don't have photos of every MP. Not that I've personally lifted a finger in this direction, but is anyone doing anything toward this? e.g. the hard slog of approaching each, or of getting the government to release official photos under OGL, or whatev

[Wikimediauk-l] "Europeana’s huge cultural dataset opens for re-use"

FYI http://e2.ma/webview/v0vec/3bc42060a322092841ec1433e280fa7c Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Context A2 scanner for sale

On 05/09/12 09:07, geni wrote: If something does come up a setup that allowed a DSLR (quite a few wikimedians with those) to be placed above the item in order to photograph it would be an adequate solution in most cases. -- geni This was the system used in a digital archive project that I w

[Wikimediauk-l] QR codes - Digital Libraries on the Street.

FYI Another QR codes idea.. (looks like books out of copyright) http://www.techi.com/2012/08/digital-libraries-on-the-street/ Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Business cards

On 11/08/12 22:22, Michael Peel wrote: As I understand it, the main issue surrounds how the titles on these business cards interact with our liability insurance, since having specific titles increases the risk of volunteers being viewed as being staff members and hence us being more liable for

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Business cards

On 10/08/12 10:00, Jon Davies wrote: Nice discussion guys but... We aim to please. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Business cards

On 10/08/12 04:16, HJ Mitchell wrote: Where is the logic in this, and why is it being done at the insistence of a single trustee? The executive execute, and Trustees steer? Gets my vote! Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] On being the Chair.

On 06/08/12 23:37, joseph seddon wrote: Why are you doing this now Gordon? you had the option to sign the petition to call an EGM. Seddon Correct. Thanks for reminding me. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mai

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] On being the Chair.

On 06/08/12 20:55, Chris Keating wrote: All trustees record any relevant interests in public and recuse themselves from discussions where there are any conflicts of interest. This is in line with Charity Commission guidance. I am not sure there is any more to say on the matter. Chris Chair,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] On being the Chair.

On 06/08/12 20:52, David Gerard wrote: On 6 August 2012 20:50, Gordon Joly wrote: Thanks Tom. Prehaps you can read between the lines? If you have something to say that you're actually willing to stand behind, then say it. If not, then don't. - d. OK. Standing down as a Cha

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] On being the Chair.

On 06/08/12 20:48, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 6 August 2012 20:45, Gordon Joly wrote: It is my understanding that the Chair is one of many on a board of Trustees. So, for example, Trustees expenses will be recorded with the Charity Commission annually. The current issue is Fae. The last time I

[Wikimediauk-l] On being the Chair.

It is my understanding that the Chair is one of many on a board of Trustees. So, for example, Trustees expenses will be recorded with the Charity Commission annually. The current issue is Fae. The last time I started to rant, it was about Roger Bamkin, and Monmouthpedia. In the latter case,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A message from Wikimedia UK

On 06/08/12 16:30, Fae wrote: Yes, all Trustees have to maintain standards of probity. Gordo Could you explain that comment? Thanks, Fae ___ I am suggesting that the Chair of a board (along with Treasurer and Secretary) should have the same standards as any other Trust

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A message from Wikimedia UK

On 06/08/12 16:21, Michael Peel wrote: Indeed, his role as a trustee was, and still is, unaffected by arbcom's decision. It was his role as Chair that (sadly) became untenable. Thanks, Mike Yes, all Trustees have to maintain standards of probity. Gordo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

On 04/08/12 19:14, Deryck Chan wrote: No they aren't, and they shouldn't be expected to, because the two have a great overlap of membership and the same goals. Overlap of membership is no reason to make two groups identical, either in reality or in the mind of third parties. Gordo ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

On 03/08/12 20:03, David Gerard wrote: and as a group of charities supported by public donation we owe it to the public to say who we are and what we're about, nevertheless the whims of the press and of the news cycle are not necessarily anything we should actually concern ourselves over

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

On 03/08/12 17:10, Michael Peel wrote: On 3 Aug 2012, at 09:06, Gordon Joly wrote: On 03/08/12 15:46, Michael Peel wrote: 'We' the editing community (all >1000 that !voted online) felt SOPA/PIPA was relevant, and blacked out the site. 'We' the charity communicated the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

On 03/08/12 15:46, Michael Peel wrote: 'We' the editing community (all >1000 that !voted online) felt SOPA/PIPA was relevant, and blacked out the site. 'We' the charity communicated the decision and views of the community to the media. It's very much this communication role that we the charit

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia charity chairman resigns after pornography row"

On 03/08/12 09:39, Fae wrote: On 3 August 2012 09:14, Gordon Joly wrote: Shame that this is not the whole truth and nothing but the truth/ I wonder if his phone was hacked? Glad you find it amusing Gordo. At some point you might want to recall that I am a real person with a real personal life

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Encyclopedia Dramatica.

il_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 1 August 2012 22:31, Gordon Joly <mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com>> wrote: Just another wiki? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau..

[Wikimediauk-l] Encyclopedia Dramatica.

Just another wiki? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 22:03, Katie Chan wrote: On 01/08/2012 20:09, Richard Symonds wrote: 240, including pending members who are yet to be approved. That's quite a bit lower than the approx. 300 we've been working with since around the AGM. Has there been quite a few lapse in memberships in recent m

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 19:48, geni wrote: On 1 August 2012 19:41, James Farrar wrote: >Ah, yes, the "false hope" story. Which turned out to be a lie made up by the >Guardian, though they didn't admit it until after dozens of people had lost >their jobs. No it turned out to be a mistake. -- geni Never le

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Thinking about some of the implications, I am reminded of Operation Spanner... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spanner ...and the issues raised by this case, *** Operation Spanner was the name of an operation carried out by police in the United Kingdom city of Manchester in 1987,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 20:56, Richard Symonds wrote: Them re-applying with a different address generates a new record for them on CiviCRM, so I need to check those 15 records and do some record merging to get the exact number. And CiviCRM does indeed help with reconciling records Gordo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 14:27, Thomas Dalton wrote: There's no particular reason for sending it to members. This list is the primary way the chapter communicates with the UK community. I disagree. The membership of Wikimedia UK has a right to dedicated channel of communication (the normal choice being em

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Does the Foundation have a view? They should, since the Chapter is a part of the Foundation. We're a chapter of the Foundation, we're not part of it. "The mission of the organisation must be in line with the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation." Source: http://meta.wikimedia.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

But apart from that? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters Gordo On 01/08/12 13:55, Jon Davies wrote: cf Life of Brian On 1 August 2012 13:53, Gordon Joly <mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com>> wrote: On 01/08/12 12:25, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 1 August 2

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 12:25, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 1 August 2012 10:20, Gordon Joly wrote: I am asserting that registered charity and the "UK Chapter" as a body are one and the same, and that the Chapter forms part of the Foundation, and that the Foundation might have a view. Does the Found

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 12:11, Andrew Gray wrote: Is there a normal "last few days of the month" pickup? Everyone's just got paid... Many do, but some are freelance (hence send in invoices), some get weekly payments, etc. And some get paid on other days. The BBC used to pay me on 15th of the month. Gor

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 10:33, Jon Davies wrote: A few jumps in logic too far. We are independent. The Foundation have been very clear that matters pertaining to the UK chapter are our business. Thanks Jon! Logic was never my strong point... Gordo ___ Wikim

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 10:12, Thomas Dalton wrote: On Aug 1, 2012 10:09 AM, "Gordon Joly" <mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com>> wrote: > > > > "Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK" > > Therefore head of the UK Chapter? Or not? > I'm not sure I under

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

"Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK" Therefore head of the UK Chapter? Or not? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

[Wikimediauk-l] People Per Hour.

http://www.peopleperhour.com/hourlie/create-a-wikipedia-page/2114 Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27/07/12 15:54, Jon Davies wrote: Our own ale? I can help with the re-cycling. I can supply the hops (Fuggles). Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27/07/12 15:48, Andy Mabbett wrote: Indeed. Perhaps something like "Wikimedia UK supports Wikipedia" or "Wikipedia - supported by Wikimedia UK"? Wikimedia UK supports Wikipedia and The Commons and Wikimania (all over the place)? Gordo ___ Wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Yes, I have seen that email (as a current member). Gordo On 27/07/12 12:04, Deryck Chan wrote: I think Jon Davies has done so already. On 27/07/2012, Gordon Joly wrote: Thanks Mike. Could I suggest that an email is also sent to all members on the Wikimedia UK membership database? Gordo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Thanks Mike. Could I suggest that an email is also sent to all members on the Wikimedia UK membership database? Gordo On 26/07/12 23:02, Michael Peel wrote: Hi all, I'm sending this statement on behalf of the WMUK Board: -- As some members of Wikimedia UK will know, our Chair, Ashley Va

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

On 26/07/12 20:59, Thomas Dalton wrote: An assertion is not an argument. It can be contradicted. It cannot be countered. Didn't Karl Popper say that? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

David Gerard will explain all on BBC TV and radio in the morning And there will be no "drooling morons" or "batshit insanity". Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wi

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