Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
Hi, In this item <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12308313> the property Characters (P674) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P674> has been used for a non-fiction literary work, whereas the property is said to be related to works of fiction. Now, I am confused, if P674 is allowed for non-fiction or not? I am also finding difficulty to propose a name for the new property for non-fiction characters, shall it be ''Characters in non-fictions'' or is there any specific term for it? Help needed. On 6 April 2018 at 21:38, Bodhisattwa Mandal <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thats correct, Nicolas. I was asking about that. Thanks. > > On 6 April 2018 at 21:36, Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674 >> but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction). >> AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet but you should ask for it (on >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal ). >> >> Cdlt, ~nicolas >> >> 2018-04-06 17:54 GMT+02:00 billinghurst <billinghurstw...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve? >>> >>>- depicts (P180) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180> >>>- statement is subject of (P805) >>><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805> >>>- subject has role (P2868) >>><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868> >>>- owner of (P1830) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830> >>>- dedicated to (P825) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825> >>>- identity of subject in context (P4649) >>><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649> >>>- patron (P1962) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962> >>> >>> I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry >>> about a person, so if you can give more context >>> >>> -- Billinghurst >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> >>> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < >>> wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM >>> Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction >>> literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, >>> depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary >>> topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing >>> something? >>> >>> -- >>> Bodhisattwa >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>> Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Wikisource-l mailing list >> Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> >> > > > -- > Bodhisattwa > > -- Bodhisattwa ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
Thats correct, Nicolas. I was asking about that. Thanks. On 6 April 2018 at 21:36, Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674 > but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction). > AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet but you should ask for it (on > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal ). > > Cdlt, ~nicolas > > 2018-04-06 17:54 GMT+02:00 billinghurst <billinghurstw...@gmail.com>: > >> Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve? >> >>- depicts (P180) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180> >>- statement is subject of (P805) >><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805> >>- subject has role (P2868) >><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868> >>- owner of (P1830) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830> >>- dedicated to (P825) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825> >>- identity of subject in context (P4649) >><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649> >>- patron (P1962) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962> >> >> I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry >> about a person, so if you can give more context >> >> -- Billinghurst >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> >> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < >> wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM >> Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters >> >> Hi, >> >> is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction >> literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, >> depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary >> topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing >> something? >> >> -- >> Bodhisattwa >> >> >> ___ >> Wikisource-l mailing list >> Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> >> > > ___ > Wikisource-l mailing list > Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > -- Bodhisattwa ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
Hi, If I understand correctly, Bodhisattwa, you want the same thing as P674 but for people and non-fiction (instead of character and fiction). AFAIK, that doesn't exist yet but you should ask for it (on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal ). Cdlt, ~nicolas 2018-04-06 17:54 GMT+02:00 billinghurst <billinghurstw...@gmail.com>: > Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve? > >- depicts (P180) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180> >- statement is subject of (P805) ><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805> >- subject has role (P2868) ><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868> >- owner of (P1830) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830> >- dedicated to (P825) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825> >- identity of subject in context (P4649) ><https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649> >- patron (P1962) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962> > > I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry > about a person, so if you can give more context > > -- Billinghurst > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> > To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" < > wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM > Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters > > Hi, > > is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction > literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, > depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary > topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing > something? > > -- > Bodhisattwa > > > ___ > Wikisource-l mailing list > Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
Aren't they just called people? What are you looking to achieve? depicts(P180) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P180>statement is subject of(P805) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P805> subject has role(P2868) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2868> owner of(P1830) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1830> dedicated to(P825) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P825> identity of subject in context(P4649) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4649> patron(P1962) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1962> I predominantly use P805 where it is a chapter, or biographical entry about a person, so if you can give more context -- Billinghurst -- Original Message -- From: "Bodhisattwa Mandal" <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: 7/04/2018 12:03:09 AM Subject: [Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters Hi, is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing something? -- Bodhisattwa ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
[Wikisource-l] Wikidata property for non-fiction characters
Hi, is there any Wikidata property for characters depicted in non-fiction literatures? I found Properties like characters (P674) for fictions, depicts (P180) for works like paintings, main subject (P921) for primary topic of a work, but couldn't find something for non-fictions. Am I missing something? -- Bodhisattwa ___ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l
