[Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming, Bugzilla is leaving
Dear tech ambassadors, According to our plans, we are just a few weeks away from Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1. On that day, Bugzilla will be accessible in read-only mode, and all the bug reports will have been migrated to Phabricator. From that point, all bug reporting will be done in Phabricator. We are very excited about this move. Phabricator provides a friendlier environment to new/casual users while offering a powerful collaboration platform for software development and project management in general -- all at once! For instance, users can edit task descriptions, one task can be assigned to more than one project (or none), and tasks can be organized in project workboards (i.e. http://fab.wmflabs.org/project/board/31/ ). Learn about the launch at http://fab.wmflabs.org/T282. You can subscribe to this task to receive any updates. This Day 1 is also relevant for other migrations (RT, Trello, Mingle, even Gerrit at some point) but first of all we want to make sure that the Bugzilla migration is well communicated and understood across all Wikimedia projects. For that, we need your help. We are planning the communication activities at http://fab.wmflabs.org/T317 -- feedback and volunteers are welcome. Learn more about Wikimedia Phabricator, and how we got to the point we are now after nine months of discussion and work: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator If you need help using Phabricator or you see other users with problems, check/improve https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help. Support is provided at the related Talk page. We will continue sending major updates to this list between now and Day 1. As always, we welcome your questions and feedback. -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming, Bugzilla is leaving
Thanks Quim, and a question about the broader components of Phabricator. Traditionally the rum by the WMF community have been considered to be in developer zone where the punters came to report issues, so all traditional development related issues. As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm? Trello-like components, and other project management aspects may have attractions for other sorts of coordinated activities. Regards, Billinghurst On Sun, 7 Sep 2014 11:20:09 +0200, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear tech ambassadors, According to our plans, we are just a few weeks away from Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1. On that day, Bugzilla will be accessible in read-only mode, and all the bug reports will have been migrated to Phabricator. From that point, all bug reporting will be done in Phabricator. We are very excited about this move. Phabricator provides a friendlier environment to new/casual users while offering a powerful collaboration platform for software development and project management in general -- all at once! For instance, users can edit task descriptions, one task can be assigned to more than one project (or none), and tasks can be organized in project workboards (i.e. http://fab.wmflabs.org/project/board/31/ ). Learn about the launch at http://fab.wmflabs.org/T282. You can subscribe to this task to receive any updates. This Day 1 is also relevant for other migrations (RT, Trello, Mingle, even Gerrit at some point) but first of all we want to make sure that the Bugzilla migration is well communicated and understood across all Wikimedia projects. For that, we need your help. We are planning the communication activities at http://fab.wmflabs.org/T317 -- feedback and volunteers are welcome. Learn more about Wikimedia Phabricator, and how we got to the point we are now after nine months of discussion and work: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator If you need help using Phabricator or you see other users with problems, check/improve https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help. Support is provided at the related Talk page. We will continue sending major updates to this list between now and Day 1. As always, we welcome your questions and feedback. ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming, Bugzilla is leaving
Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary) all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may be being discussed. Risker/Anne On 7 September 2014 06:39, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: (As this list is not meant for discussion, I will reply to this interesting question here and now, bu then I encourage you to to ask further in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help or the alternative channel you prefer.) On Sunday, September 7, 2014, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com wrote: As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm? This intro in the http://fab.wmflabs.org homepage answers to your questions, and it will be kept in the Wikimedia Phabricator instance in production: Getting Things Done Wikimedia Phabricator is a collaboration platform to plan projects, complete tasks, and solve problems. Building better open source software is our primary purpose. Non-technical projects are welcome as well. So yes, the door is open, and technically there is nothing stopping to non-technical teams to request a Phabricator project already now. However, currently we are not pitching this idea strongly because we expect enough... entropy with the huge wave of Bugzilla users that will come at once by Day 1. We'd rather let these tech users smooth the path for the rest. Conclusion: let's focus first in making sure that Phabricator works as a replacement of Bugzilla, a goal that undoubtedly will help non-technical users and projects in the near future. -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming, Bugzilla is leaving
By the sounds of it, the logging on will (probably) be done with your regular Wikipedia account. I suspect linking will be done with a phabricator: prefix. I've looked at the beta version, and it seems easy enough to report bugs, and seems like an improvement on the old system. Mdann52 -Original Message- From: Risker risker...@gmail.com Sent: 07/09/2014 13:43 To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming,Bugzilla is leaving Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary) all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may be being discussed. Risker/Anne On 7 September 2014 06:39, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: (As this list is not meant for discussion, I will reply to this interesting question here and now, bu then I encourage you to to ask further in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help or the alternative channel you prefer.) On Sunday, September 7, 2014, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com wrote: As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm? This intro in the http://fab.wmflabs.org homepage answers to your questions, and it will be kept in the Wikimedia Phabricator instance in production: Getting Things Done Wikimedia Phabricator is a collaboration platform to plan projects, complete tasks, and solve problems. Building better open source software is our primary purpose. Non-technical projects are welcome as well. So yes, the door is open, and technically there is nothing stopping to non-technical teams to request a Phabricator project already now. However, currently we are not pitching this idea strongly because we expect enough... entropy with the huge wave of Bugzilla users that will come at once by Day 1. We'd rather let these tech users smooth the path for the rest. Conclusion: let's focus first in making sure that Phabricator works as a replacement of Bugzilla, a goal that undoubtedly will help non-technical users and projects in the near future. -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming, Bugzilla is leaving
Matthew, thank you for your comments. Turns out your first one isn't correct; I had to register an account; neither my former Bugzilla credentials nor my wikimedia-project credentials worked there. RIsker/Anne On 7 September 2014 08:55, Matthew Dann mdan...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: By the sounds of it, the logging on will (probably) be done with your regular Wikipedia account. I suspect linking will be done with a phabricator: prefix. I've looked at the beta version, and it seems easy enough to report bugs, and seems like an improvement on the old system. Mdann52 -- From: Risker risker...@gmail.com Sent: 07/09/2014 13:43 To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming,Bugzilla is leaving Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary) all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may be being discussed. Risker/Anne On 7 September 2014 06:39, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: (As this list is not meant for discussion, I will reply to this interesting question here and now, bu then I encourage you to to ask further in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help or the alternative channel you prefer.) On Sunday, September 7, 2014, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com wrote: As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm? This intro in the http://fab.wmflabs.org homepage answers to your questions, and it will be kept in the Wikimedia Phabricator instance in production: Getting Things Done Wikimedia Phabricator is a collaboration platform to plan projects, complete tasks, and solve problems. Building better open source software is our primary purpose. Non-technical projects are welcome as well. So yes, the door is open, and technically there is nothing stopping to non-technical teams to request a Phabricator project already now. However, currently we are not pitching this idea strongly because we expect enough... entropy with the huge wave of Bugzilla users that will come at once by Day 1. We'd rather let these tech users smooth the path for the rest. Conclusion: let's focus first in making sure that Phabricator works as a replacement of Bugzilla, a goal that undoubtedly will help non-technical users and projects in the near future. -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming, Bugzilla is leaving
Ok; I know they were planning that feature. Not sure if that's been abandoned, or just not deployed yet. Matthew Dann Sent from my iPod On 7 Sep 2014, at 14:05, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, thank you for your comments. Turns out your first one isn't correct; I had to register an account; neither my former Bugzilla credentials nor my wikimedia-project credentials worked there. RIsker/Anne On 7 September 2014 08:55, Matthew Dann mdan...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: By the sounds of it, the logging on will (probably) be done with your regular Wikipedia account. I suspect linking will be done with a phabricator: prefix. I've looked at the beta version, and it seems easy enough to report bugs, and seems like an improvement on the old system. Mdann52 From: Risker Sent: 07/09/2014 13:43 To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects Subject: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming,Bugzilla is leaving Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary) all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may be being discussed. Risker/Anne On 7 September 2014 06:39, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: (As this list is not meant for discussion, I will reply to this interesting question here and now, bu then I encourage you to to ask further in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help or the alternative channel you prefer.) On Sunday, September 7, 2014, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com wrote: As there is going to be larger range of tools, do we see some of these being available to the community outside of the development realm? This intro in the http://fab.wmflabs.org homepage answers to your questions, and it will be kept in the Wikimedia Phabricator instance in production: Getting Things Done Wikimedia Phabricator is a collaboration platform to plan projects, complete tasks, and solve problems. Building better open source software is our primary purpose. Non-technical projects are welcome as well. So yes, the door is open, and technically there is nothing stopping to non-technical teams to request a Phabricator project already now. However, currently we are not pitching this idea strongly because we expect enough... entropy with the huge wave of Bugzilla users that will come at once by Day 1. We'd rather let these tech users smooth the path for the rest. Conclusion: let's focus first in making sure that Phabricator works as a replacement of Bugzilla, a goal that undoubtedly will help non-technical users and projects in the near future. -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming, Bugzilla is leaving
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
Quim, can you point me to a well-written, useful page that describes the
steps needed to report a bug in Phabricator? This needs to include the
steps to register an account (assuming that is necessary)
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Signing_in
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Help#Creating_a_task
I'm not sure about the well-written part, but you can help.
Creating tasks is actually pretty simple. Only title and description are
required. CC and Projects are optional. That's it, off you go.
The Wikimedia sign in doesn't work in the Labs instance (no https in Labs)
but you can test it at https://legalpad.wikimedia.org
all the way through to how to link to the bug on the WM wiki where it may
be being discussed.
Pending (help from template gadget ninjas is welcome):
Port {{tracked}} gadget to query Phabricator API
http://fab.wmflabs.org/T285
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[Wikitech-ambassadors] Fwd: fab.wmflabs.org to go offline this Monday 18:00UTC
All users at fab.wmflabs.org have received this announcement. Forwarding it here just in case you or someone in your projects wants to give a first try to Phabricator only to find that it's down. -- Forwarded message -- From: phabannou...@phabricator.wikimedia.org Date: Sunday, September 7, 2014 Subject: fab.wmflabs.org to go offline this Monday 18:00UTC To: q...@wikimedia.org Summary: fab.wmflabs.org will be taken down this Monday 18:00UTC. Locally save tasks or workboards that you might rely on for the week. Verify your email address in fab.wmflabs.org if it's not already. The intention is for the Phabricator production instance to be available by Sept 12th. The Phabricator instance on fab.wmflabs.org has been used over the last few months for both real and test data. On Mon, Sept 8th 2014 18:00UTC this instance will be made unavailable to migrate content to the upcoming production instance on phabricator.wikimedia.org. The Labs instance will not come back online in the same form, if at all. We take the Labs instance down because we cannot make the Labs instance read-only while dumping its data. Neither can we easily display a banner on all pages warning you to not make any changes which would get lost anyway. Tickets from the following projects are marked for migration: Analytics-EEVS Architecture bugzilla-migration Chemical_Markup_for_Wikimedia_Commons Code_review_in_Phabricator Community-Engagement dev.wikimedia.org googlelogin Growth Human_Resources Language_Engineering logstash phabricator phabricator-request-project Release_Engineering rt-migration Triagers Trusted_User_Tool UI_Standardization UploadWizard_Refactoring Upstreaming_to_Phabricator.org Wiki-Release-Team Wikimedia_Phabricator_Day_1 wikimedia_phabricator_maintenance wikimedia_phabricator_rfc Some metadata[1] for tasks associated with the above should be populated in the new production system -- if the account used in fab.wmflabs.org has a verified email that is also verified in the production instance. If you are using an email but have not verified it to the Labs instance you can go here: http://fab.wmflabs.org/settings/panel/email/ and choose verify. An email will be sent with a link. If you do not have a verified email address yet, or for some reason cannot verify an email with the Labs instance the relevant content (tickets, comments) will still be migrated. However, it will not be associated automatically with any new account in the production instance. For questions catch us (chasemp and andre__) on Freenode IRC or drop into the #wikimedia-devtools channel. Thanks, Phabricator Team [1] metadata to be migrated: ticket: author, cc, assigned, blocking/blocked -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
[Wikitech-ambassadors] Phabricator is coming, Bugzilla is leaving
On Sunday, September 7, 2014, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bawo...@gmail.com'); wrote: On 9/7/14, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear tech ambassadors, According to our plans, we are just a few weeks away from Wikimedia Phabricator Day 1. On that day, Bugzilla will be accessible in read-only mode, and all the bug reports will have been migrated to Phabricator. From that point, all bug reporting will be done in Phabricator. Is there an actual day set? All I seem to be able to find is a vague - maybe end of september beginning of october. The draft timeline says Sept 29 - Oct 3: Bugzilla migration and this reflects the best of our knowledge today. http://fab.wmflabs.org/T282 As soon as we commit to a firm date we will share them with you. -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
