Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Searching deleted page content
Thanks everyone for your input. The issue that made me ask my question actually arose from en.wp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#Coix_lacryma-jobi_var._ma-yuen Basically, someone forked an article and various people (rightly) repointed some subtopic redirects to the new article. Then the fork got deleted, and other editors and admins quickly deleted all those redirects without looking at the page history or incoming links, creating lots of redlinks overnight. But one cannot search deleted page history, so there's no way to find out what redirects should be restored to the old article. The same problem can happen on any MediaWiki site, so I wondered if a relevant search function existed. Part of the problem lies with Twinkle, which deletes broken redirects with one click without checking page history, encouraging this kind of reckless deletion. I have raised this issue at the Twinkle repository: https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle/issues/591 Thanks for all your help. Deryck On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 18:45, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) wrote: > Hi Deryck, > > It might help if you provide us with any of the other known aspects, e.g. > topic-area, last known time of existence, etc. > > If I was looking, my first step with just the current info, would probably > be to open the Special:Log/delete at the relevant wiki, expand it to 500 > entries, and try a few ctrl-F searches to narrow down the time-frame. E.g. > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log==500=delete=delete > > Separately, there might also be clues in the description of > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109561 (for using Special:Undelete to > searching deleted page titles, with some fuzzy-matching now available) > > HTH, > Quiddity > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:16 AM Vi to wrote: > >> AFAIK nope, you can just search for title prefixes. >> >> Vito >> >> Il giorno gio 18 apr 2019 alle ore 16:23 Deryck Chan < >> deryckc...@gmail.com> ha scritto: >> >>> Hello ambassadors. >>> >>> I can't find relevant info in the documentation so I've come to ask here >>> - Is it possible to run a keyword search in deleted page content? >>> >>> I've got this situation where a few pages were deleted by mistake, and >>> redirects to those pages were speedily deleted by other admins. Now there >>> are no searchable traces of what redirects we should restore, and admins >>> don't know where in the deletion log to look. Any advice? >>> >>> Deryck >>> ___ >>> Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list >>> Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors >>> >> ___ >> Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list >> Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors >> > > > -- > Nick "Quiddity" Wilson (he/him) > Community Engagement - Documentation > Wikimedia Foundation > ___ > Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list > Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors > ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Searching deleted page content
Deryck Chan, 18/04/19 17:22: I can't find relevant info in the documentation so I've come to ask here - Is it possible to run a keyword search in deleted page content? The default answer is "no". Alternatives have been most often discussed in relation to research projects on the archive table. I've got this situation where a few pages were deleted by mistake, and redirects to those pages were speedily deleted by other admins. Now there are no searchable traces of what redirects we should restore, and admins don't know where in the deletion log to look. Any advice? Depending on the age, number of involved pages and regularity of the content... just grep the XML dump? Federico ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Searching deleted page content
Hi Deryck, It might help if you provide us with any of the other known aspects, e.g. topic-area, last known time of existence, etc. If I was looking, my first step with just the current info, would probably be to open the Special:Log/delete at the relevant wiki, expand it to 500 entries, and try a few ctrl-F searches to narrow down the time-frame. E.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log==500=delete=delete Separately, there might also be clues in the description of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109561 (for using Special:Undelete to searching deleted page titles, with some fuzzy-matching now available) HTH, Quiddity On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:16 AM Vi to wrote: > AFAIK nope, you can just search for title prefixes. > > Vito > > Il giorno gio 18 apr 2019 alle ore 16:23 Deryck Chan > ha scritto: > >> Hello ambassadors. >> >> I can't find relevant info in the documentation so I've come to ask here >> - Is it possible to run a keyword search in deleted page content? >> >> I've got this situation where a few pages were deleted by mistake, and >> redirects to those pages were speedily deleted by other admins. Now there >> are no searchable traces of what redirects we should restore, and admins >> don't know where in the deletion log to look. Any advice? >> >> Deryck >> ___ >> Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list >> Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors >> > ___ > Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list > Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors > -- Nick "Quiddity" Wilson (he/him) Community Engagement - Documentation Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Searching deleted page content
AFAIK nope, you can just search for title prefixes. Vito Il giorno gio 18 apr 2019 alle ore 16:23 Deryck Chan ha scritto: > Hello ambassadors. > > I can't find relevant info in the documentation so I've come to ask here - > Is it possible to run a keyword search in deleted page content? > > I've got this situation where a few pages were deleted by mistake, and > redirects to those pages were speedily deleted by other admins. Now there > are no searchable traces of what redirects we should restore, and admins > don't know where in the deletion log to look. Any advice? > > Deryck > ___ > Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list > Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors > ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors
