Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-19 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Why isn't this being used for the dumps? Well, the relevant code is totally unrelated, so the question is sort of a non sequitur. If you mean Why don't we have incremental dumps?, I guess Ariel is the person to ask. I'm

Re: [Wikitech-l] helping in WYSIWYG editor efforts

2011-01-19 Thread Magnus Manske
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Panos Louridas louri...@grnet.gr wrote: Hi, At the Greek Research and Education Network (GRNET) we look at the possibility of contributing to the development of WYSIWYG editor support in Wikipedia. We understand that considerable work has already taken place

[Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Maury Markowitz
I am dipping my toe in MATH for the first time and finding the results somewhat curious. They key appears to be this statement: It generates either PNG images or simple HTML markup, depending on user preferences and the complexity of the expression. Consider the formulas here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-19 Thread Magnus Manske
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:17 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Krinkle wrote: There's a bot in #wikimedia-toolserver reporting activity on [toolserver-l], I'll see if I can get a similar thing going for [wikitech-l]. In which channel would we want this though ? I assume

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Brollo
2011/1/19 Maury Markowitz maury.markow...@gmail.com I am dipping my toe in MATH for the first time and finding the results somewhat curious. They key appears to be this statement: It generates either PNG images or simple HTML markup, depending on user preferences and the complexity of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Brollo
2011/1/19 Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com 2011/1/19 Maury Markowitz maury.markow...@gmail.com I am dipping my toe in MATH for the first time and finding the results somewhat curious. They key appears to be this statement: It generates either PNG images or simple HTML markup, depending

Re: [Wikitech-l] helping in WYSIWYG editor efforts

2011-01-19 Thread Jan Paul Posma
A very generous offer indeed! My own SLE and Magnus' WYSIFTW are indeed the most active projects, so that would be a good bet. Actually, for me the timing is just right, as I'll be working on a paper about this editor for a while, so it'd be cool to have someone(s) continue the project. If one

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-19 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:33 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: Why isn't this being used for the dumps? Well, the relevant code is totally unrelated, so the question is sort of a non sequitur. No, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-19 Thread MZMcBride
Magnus Manske wrote: As I wrote in my earlier mail, posting each new thread subject, that is, when a new thread gets started, on IRC. That would be, what, five new threads per day on average? The channel must be very quiet indeed, if that's considered spam :-) It'd likely be a lot more than

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIFTW status

2011-01-19 Thread Magnus Manske
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Maciej Jaros e...@wp.pl wrote: Aryeh Gregor (2011-01-17 17:31): On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com  wrote: There is the question of what browsers/versions to test for. Should I invest large amounts of time optimising

Re: [Wikitech-l] FYI : Commons thumbnails slow

2011-01-19 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: (here I am again, throwing tech solutions at social problems...) The non-technical solution would be for wikitech-l/#wikimedia-tech regulars to start poking people at IRC when error reports come in on the

Re: [Wikitech-l] helping in WYSIWYG editor efforts

2011-01-19 Thread Panos Louridas
Thanks to both Jean Paul and Magnus for taking up the offer! Based on your input I will look into our developer tool for people with expertise in the following: * Advanced JS, preferably with experience in optimisation issues etc. * UI design, usability testing, etc. * Text processing (of

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-19 Thread Platonides
masti wrote: On 01/18/2011 12:30 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: On 01/17/2011 11:36 PM, masti wrote: what is the reason and what it can bring to the community? I tried to describe this. The task of finding out the history of a part of an article is very time consuming for long articles with a

Re: [Wikitech-l] WYSIFTW status

2011-01-19 Thread Platonides
Magnus Manske wrote: On my usual test article [[Paris]], the slowest section (History) parses in ~5 sec (Firefox 3.6.13, MacBook Pro). Chrome 10 takes 2 seconds. I believe these will already be acceptable to average users; optimisation should improve that further. Cheers, Magnus What

Re: [Wikitech-l] helping in WYSIWYG editor efforts

2011-01-19 Thread Jan Paul Posma
Skype sounds great! Also, I heard you work with Ariel, which is great because that way you have a more local person to contact with MediaWiki questions. Perhaps we can get off-list with those interested to schedule an introductory meeting? (You, me, Magnus, Ariel, others?) I am located in the

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Carl (CBM)
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Alex Brollo alex.bro...@gmail.com wrote: You can force  png rendering both by preferences and by code. But what's more interesting is the use of badly documented \scriptstyle TeX tag, which generates a much smaller and less invasive display of pngs: The use of

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Maury Markowitz
Wow, thanks for the pointer Carl, MathJax is impressive. Alex, your work is appreciated, but I'm not sure exactly what I'm seeing. Can you point me in the right direction to read up a bit more? Maury ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] helping in WYSIWYG editor efforts

2011-01-19 Thread Magnus Manske
I have added Panos to Skype; yes, we should probably exchange Skype handles off-list. I am in Cambridge (London time), so that should work. Cheers, Magnus On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Jan Paul Posma jp.po...@gmail.com wrote: Skype sounds great! Also, I heard you work with Ariel, which is

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-19 Thread Happy-melon
Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote in message news:AANLkTi=uk+uf3y_b+zld57wcfuef_7rf-bt8tnvtg...@mail.gmail.com... No, that's not the question. The question is why are you uncompressing and undiffing (from DiffHistoryBlobs) only to recompress (to bz2) and then uncompress and recompress (to 7z)

[Wikitech-l] Best way to track RELEASE-NOTES changes each svn update?

2011-01-19 Thread jidanni
C On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: Isn't that what release notes are for? Say, how do you pros see what changed? Here is my extra stupid way. I do it every few weeks. cp RELEASE-NOTES /tmp svn update diff --ignore-space-change -U0 /tmp RELEASE-NOTES

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-19 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote in message news:AANLkTi=uk+uf3y_b+zld57wcfuef_7rf-bt8tnvtg...@mail.gmail.com... No, that's not the question.  The question is why are you uncompressing and undiffing (from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Best way to track RELEASE-NOTES changes each svn update?

2011-01-19 Thread Chad
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:55 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: So how do you folks track RELEASE-NOTES level changes (not source code level changes, too many), coinciding with your SVN updates? I don't follow release notes, I'm subscribed to mediawiki-cvs. It's way more informative. -Chad

Re: [Wikitech-l] MATH markup question

2011-01-19 Thread Alex Brollo
2011/1/19 Maury Markowitz maury.markow...@gmail.com Wow, thanks for the pointer Carl, MathJax is impressive. Alex, your work is appreciated, but I'm not sure exactly what I'm seeing. Can you point me in the right direction to read up a bit more? Don't care, throw away my suggestions