Re: [Wikitech-l] strange page id numbering

2011-02-15 Thread Platonides
Anthony Ventresque (Dr) wrote: Hi, I've found something strange in some files. The maximum ids for a page are: latest pages-articles.xml: 29189922 page.sql: 28707562 categorylinks.sql: 28705949 (15,684 categories and 135,521 articles are missing) 2011-01-15

Re: [Wikitech-l] strange page id numbering

2011-02-15 Thread Anthony Ventresque (Dr)
Anthony Ventresque (Dr) wrote: Hi, I've found something strange in some files. The maximum ids for a page are: latest pages-articles.xml: 29189922 page.sql: 28707562 categorylinks.sql: 28705949 (15,684 categories and 135,521 articles are missing)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Migrating to GIT (extensions)

2011-02-15 Thread Platonides
Aryeh Gregor wrote: I've used git a lot (I use it for everything I want to version) and Mercurial a fair bit (the W3C seems to like it), and I *strongly* prefer git. Major problems I have with Mercurial: 1) It doesn't support lots of useful functionality that's built into git unless you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Migrating to GIT (extensions)

2011-02-15 Thread Platonides
Daniel Friesen wrote: However a key thing to note is that git submodules aren't anything really special. Sure, they're integrated into git, but the only real special feature about them is that you can target a specific commit id... and heck, we don't even want that feature, that's the whole

Re: [Wikitech-l] strange page id numbering

2011-02-15 Thread OQ
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Anthony Ventresque (Dr) aventres...@ntu.edu.sg wrote: I was indeed suspecting something like that, but the difference in number of pages is large while we are talking about a relatively short delay (minutes?). Depending on what site you're talking about.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Making code review happen in 1.18

2011-02-15 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2011/2/14 Mark A. Hershberger mhershber...@wikimedia.org: If we have a 1.18 branch that is, as Brion has noted (and supported), a day or two behind trunk at most, is there a reason that the we couldn't branch wmfN from the rolling 1.18 branch? Or even just tag it when we

Re: [Wikitech-l] strange page id numbering

2011-02-15 Thread Anthony Ventresque (Dr)
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Anthony Ventresque (Dr) aventres...@ntu.edu.sg wrote: I was indeed suspecting something like that, but the difference in number of pages is large while we are talking about a relatively short delay (minutes?). Depending on what site you're talking

Re: [Wikitech-l] strange page id numbering

2011-02-15 Thread John
Depends on the language, enwiki can take weeks to dump, while rue wiki may only take 30 seconds. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Anthony Ventresque (Dr) aventres...@ntu.edu.sg wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Anthony Ventresque (Dr) aventres...@ntu.edu.sg wrote: I was indeed

Re: [Wikitech-l] strange page id numbering

2011-02-15 Thread Q
On 2/15/2011 11:34 AM, Anthony Ventresque (Dr) wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Anthony Ventresque (Dr) aventres...@ntu.edu.sg wrote: I was indeed suspecting something like that, but the difference in number of pages is large while we are talking about a relatively short delay

Re: [Wikitech-l] How users without programming skills can help

2011-02-15 Thread Jay Ashworth
With the impending Bugzilla 4 release, I would like to take some time in setting up the test instance to perhaps play with some of these options to see if we can tweak it into being more useful to everyone. BZ4 is coming? Cool. You can't *imagine* how happy I'd be to help with that project,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Simple Search Simplification

2011-02-15 Thread Maciej Jaros
+1 to both, looks to much like another tab and it does something completely different. Different things should look differently. Might be even more confusing if the drop down menu arrow would be on the left of it (then that's usually visible when you log in) - would suggest a search history

[Wikitech-l] are you sure you want everything via HTTPS?

2011-02-15 Thread jidanni
Is that how Facebook™ or Google™ operate, sending every single component via HTTPS? No. Only the vital personal settings, password stuff is done that way. As for not letting people know what pages you are browsing, well, I don't now. Does Google™ offer a way to not let wiretapping people know

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org commons sockpuppet site

2011-02-15 Thread jidanni
When you finally retire https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/... etc. etc. Have them HTTP 301 permanently redirect to https://commons.wikimedia.org/... etc. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] How users without programming skills can help

2011-02-15 Thread jidanni
BV == Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com writes: BV Bugzilla actually ships with a default robots.txt that denies everything, we BV just never removed it. :) Time to do the same for these lists. (Psst, news.tcx.org.uk is now publishing them too, one more nail in the coffin of security via obscurity.)

Re: [Wikitech-l] stop changing the whitespace in RELEASE-NOTES please

2011-02-15 Thread jidanni
C == Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com writes: C On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr wrote: We do want to maintains this file at 80 characters line width, we could even enforce this in a pre-commit hook. C Or people could just properly wrap their lines. There's no

Re: [Wikitech-l] stop changing the whitespace in RELEASE-NOTES please

2011-02-15 Thread Chad
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:21 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: C == Chad  innocentkil...@gmail.com writes: C On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr wrote: We do want to maintains this file at 80 characters line width, we could even enforce this in a pre-commit

Re: [Wikitech-l] are you sure you want everything via HTTPS?

2011-02-15 Thread Walter McGinnis
On Feb 16, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Brandon Harris wrote: Lots of people don't like to have their sessions stolen via Firesheep. That's one reason to do all https all the time. I think y'all should chill and take the tone down from an argument to more of discussion where points of view

Re: [Wikitech-l] are you sure you want everything via HTTPS?

2011-02-15 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:09 PM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Is that how Facebook™ or Google™ operate, sending every single component via HTTPS? No. Only the vital personal settings, password stuff is done that way. As for not letting people know what pages you are browsing, well, I don't

Re: [Wikitech-l] are you sure you want everything via HTTPS?

2011-02-15 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 15 February 2011 21:09, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Is that how Facebook™ or Google™ operate, sending every single component via HTTPS? No. Only the vital personal settings, password stuff is done that way. As for not letting people know what pages you are browsing, well, I don't now.

Re: [Wikitech-l] are you sure you want everything via HTTPS?

2011-02-15 Thread Mark Wonsil
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:09 PM,  jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Is that how Facebook™ or Google™ operate, sending every single component via HTTPS? No. Only the vital personal settings, password stuff is done that way. Actually, there's now a setting in Facebook to use https on every single

Re: [Wikitech-l] are you sure you want everything via HTTPS?

2011-02-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/2/15 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Ok, so offering HTTPS for everything isn't essential. What harm does it do, though? Exactly. We're not gonna force users to use HTTPS for everything, but we should at least offer the possibility to those who want it. Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

Re: [Wikitech-l] are you sure you want everything via HTTPS?

2011-02-15 Thread Ryan Lane
All this boils down to, yes full HTTPS is best practice, but if you make use of external APIs or services, it may be hard to achieve. We don't for anything, I believe. - Ryan Lane ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] are you sure you want everything via HTTPS?

2011-02-15 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: All this boils down to, yes full HTTPS is best practice, but if you make use of external APIs or services, it may be hard to achieve. We don't for anything, I believe. - Ryan Lane There was some discussion on making

Re: [Wikitech-l] stop changing the whitespace in RELEASE-NOTES please

2011-02-15 Thread jidanni
C == Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com writes: C Then it should be fixed. Better in a batch commit than C in a dozen separate ones. I don't see what the problem C is here. Please ensure that no diff will contain boring formatting changes. That means they must be properly formatted when they enter

Re: [Wikitech-l] strange page id numbering

2011-02-15 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Q overlo...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/15/2011 11:34 AM, Anthony Ventresque (Dr) wrote: Wikipedia... is that a relevant answer to your remark? There's about 284 of those, you'll have to be a bit more specific. Anyone who says Wikipedia, in English, in a context