[Wikitech-l] Localisation and internationalisation bug triage on August 22

2012-08-14 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan (WMF)
Hello all, I would like to invite you to the upcoming localisation and internationalisation bug triage. The bug triage preparation is available[1]. Please feel free to add bugs / use the chat window / email me about i18n issues that you would like to discuss in the triage. When : August 22,

[Wikitech-l] [RFC] Rewriting interwiki into sites

2012-08-14 Thread Daniel Friesen
I put together an RfC page for rewriting interwiki into sites to collect a list of all the things that are needed out of a proper sites implementation. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/New_sites_system I tried to find all the ones I could. Try to point out any I missed.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Use cases for Sites handling change (Re: Wikidata blockers weekly update)

2012-08-14 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, You mention using a global id to refer to sites for making links. And synchronization of the sites table. So you're saying that this part of Wikidata only works within Wikimedia projects right? Does Wikidata overall only function within Wikimedia projects. Or is there a different

Re: [Wikitech-l] Use cases for Sites handling change (Re: Wikidata blockers weekly update)

2012-08-14 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:32:07 -0700, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, You mention using a global id to refer to sites for making links. And synchronization of the sites table. So you're saying that this part of Wikidata only works within Wikimedia projects right? Does

Re: [Wikitech-l] Use cases for Sites handling change (Re: Wikidata blockers weekly update)

2012-08-14 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, I was asking how you planned to handle sites in 3rd party wikis. Do you have a separate mechanism to handle links from 3rd party clients? Or are they supposed to sync their sites from Wikimedia's Wikidata? AFAIK we're providing full urls in our export formats, not sure what our current

[Wikitech-l] Design comments

2012-08-14 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
I found this not at all bad looking. whatever your take, it's always nice to have an outside view: http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Design comments

2012-08-14 Thread Mark Holmquist
On 12-08-14 10:44 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: I found this not at all bad looking. whatever your take, it's always nice to have an outside view: http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/ Also, the conversation on the Design list may be interesting:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Design comments

2012-08-14 Thread Petr Onderka
I have a feeling that they are trying to make Wikipedia pretty, but at the cost of making it much less functional. For example, to get to Czech Wikipedia from www.wikipedia.org, I have to roll over the top right corner? That's absolutely unusable, I would never think of that. Petr Onderka

Re: [Wikitech-l] Design comments (and note about no-www)

2012-08-14 Thread Mark Holmquist
For example, to get to Czech Wikipedia from www.wikipedia.org, I have to roll over the top right corner? That's absolutely unusable, I would never think of that. Even better, the smaller wikis have very little screen space, so it might be impossible to get to them! Great design. And I was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Design comments

2012-08-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
I have a feeling that they are trying to make Wikipedia pretty, but at the cost of making it much less functional. For example, to get to Czech Wikipedia from www.wikipedia.org, I have to roll over the top right corner? That's absolutely unusable, I would never think of that. Petr Onderka

Re: [Wikitech-l] Design comments

2012-08-14 Thread Munaf Assaf
I haven't really looked at the discussion, but I just want to note that several members of the design team at WMF have been working on speculative full redesigns for some time (myself included). Some of the functional ideas expressed in Wikipedia Redefined are in our concept, along with others.

[Wikitech-l] configuring and autoloading the profiler

2012-08-14 Thread Terry Ellison
I've been tracking a performance problem which took me into this profiler autoloading code by way of a false trail, so I am ignorant of the development history, but at least I have come to this with fresh eyes. I have also trawled the DL for relevant threads, and my topic is related to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Design comments (and note about no-www)

2012-08-14 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
Are there statistics available about the number of people that go to www.wikipedia.org and then go to specific language wikipedias? On 14 August 2012 20:08, Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org wrote: For example, to get to Czech Wikipedia from www.wikipedia.org, I have to roll over the top

Re: [Wikitech-l] Design comments (and note about no-www)

2012-08-14 Thread Daniel Zahn
On 14 August 2012 20:08, Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.org wrote: For example, to get to Czech Wikipedia from www.wikipedia.org, I have to roll over the top right corner? That's absolutely unusable, I would never think of that. I don't get the part about roll over the top right corner.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Design comments (and note about no-www)

2012-08-14 Thread Petr Onderka
That's what they proposed it should look like. Currently, there is a direct link to the Czech Wikipedia (and all the other Wikipedias) on www.wikipedia.org, like you said. But in the proposal from http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/, which is what I was replying to (but wasn't quoted in Mark's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Design comments (and note about no-www)

2012-08-14 Thread Daniel Zahn
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Petr Onderka gsv...@gmail.com wrote: But in the proposal from http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/, which is what I was replying to (but wasn't quoted in Mark's email), it is the way I described. Aha, thanks for clarifying. ..and found the other thread about the

[Wikitech-l] Gerrit evaluation: where we stand

2012-08-14 Thread Brion Vibber
== Gerrit == For the time being, we're sticking with gerrit for ops, MediaWiki core, and extensions: * it works for what we need * we have existing deployment workflows built on it * it's being actively developed, and various improvements are coming in That said there are known negatives; the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit evaluation: where we stand

2012-08-14 Thread Ryan Lane
The good news for those who aren't so fond of Gerrit is that we do have some nice alternatives on the horizon, which we can start working with and improve... we'll be re-evaluating things across the board for core extensions next year. (Ops can keep Gerrit forever if they like it, that's not

[Wikitech-l] Lua deployed to test2wiki

2012-08-14 Thread Tim Starling
The Lua extension (Scribunto) is now enabled on test2wiki. Feedback would be greatly appreciated, especially if it comes in the form of bug reports and feature requests filed in the Scribunto component in Bugzilla.