Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-12-03 Thread Ori Livneh
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com wrote: Hrm... I should probably go ask them about that. But I'm curious about your perspective and to see if we have any information on the bandwidth

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-12-03 Thread Max Semenik
On 03.12.2013, 12:30 Ori wrote: The size of the effect is substantially smaller on mobile, for some reason, which is surprising. Mobile simply has fewer modules;) -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]]) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Adding a html builder to Lua

2013-12-03 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
I'd say that is a great idea ! No matter what template you are building, you probably need to output Html, so this should be suited for core inclusion. We probably should consult User:Toohool though, who originally wrote the module, with regard to how to license the code. DJ On Mon, Dec 2,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Cristian Consonni
Hi all, I want to propose a logo for reasonator (to substitute the R now in use); https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reasonator_logo_proposal.png also, I think that in the mouseover text a more verbose description like: Show the properties of this item would be helpful. Ciao, Cristian

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Magnus Manske
I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)? Cheers, Magnus On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I want to propose a logo for reasonator (to substitute the R now in use);

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Cristian Consonni
2013/12/3 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)? ((... usual big IANAL disclaimer here ...)) I think so. On Wikimedia sites You may use and remix the Wikimedia marks on the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Magnus Manske
OK, now live with the logo! :-) On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/12/3 Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com: I like it! Can we use the Wikidata color schema, according to the new, improved trademark policy (R) (TM)? ((... usual big

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I've not been following the trademark policy draft discussion, but note that Labs is explicitly not part of Wikimedia sites according to the definition of this (formerly unknown) term on the privacy policy draft: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#A_Little_Background: «excluding,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The logo looks fine to me... I already blogged about it [1]. We are also looking for a logo for the Concept Cloud .. Lydia indicated that there are more t-shirts that can be shipped for another great design :) Thanks, GerardM [1]

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Magnus Manske
Technically, the JavaScript is just hosted on Labs, but run on Wikipedia ;-) On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: I've not been following the trademark policy draft discussion, but note that Labs is explicitly not part of Wikimedia sites according to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Again, I didn't do anything, it's all Magnus' merit. :) And on it.wiki, Jalo's and Rotpunkt's. Andrew Gray, 03/12/2013 13:29: Would it be worth moving the Reasonator results up to the top right, in a box? There's a lot of white space on the search page, because the result snippets are less

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-12-03 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 12:30:00AM -0800, Ori Livneh wrote: We ran a controlled test and found that module storage reduced page load times by 156 ms, on average. Aaron has some data available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Module_storage_performance, but we still need to write

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-12-03 Thread Jon Robson
To be fair last time I checked there was a lot of dead JS and CSS (e.g. [1]) that should not be loaded in the first place for every page. Reducing this should make things even smoother for users. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54604 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Faidon

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

2013-12-03 Thread James Forrester
On 3 December 2013 21:32, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 December 2013 21:26, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org wrote: We've put together RC3 for 1.22.0. Please test the tarball and report any bugs you find on Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ Here's a question:

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

2013-12-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 December 2013 21:40, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 3 December 2013 21:32, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a question: is there a set-out list of steps to enable Visual Editor in this? Or is VE not quite ready for this? Basically, what would the VE

Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

2013-12-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 December 2013 21:51, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: Not ready means not packaged as a 1.22 stand-alone install, and won't get back-ported security fixes. If you're happy with VE as it currently operates (which is probably good enough for an intranet unless you have loads

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architecture RFC review meetings

2013-12-03 Thread Quim Gil
On 11/20/2013 03:30 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Propose your RFCs for the next review meeting on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM UTC in #wikimedia-meetbot https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2013-12-04 This meeting will start in 23 hours. There are no RFCs listed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Facebook Open Academy

2013-12-03 Thread Quim Gil
We have a draft list of project candidates for the next edition of the Facebook Open Academy program starting... now (planning phase, development starts in February -- see the wiki page for details). https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Facebook_Open_Academy If you want to propose a project in this

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikidata-l] Italian Wikipedia complements search results with Wikidata based functionality

2013-12-03 Thread Cristian Consonni
2013/12/3 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: The logo looks fine to me... Following a suggestion from a Google+ comment I have uploaded an alternative (and cleaner) version of the logo here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reasonator_logo_proposal_no_background.png, On full scale

Re: [Wikitech-l] Architecture RFC review meetings

2013-12-03 Thread Bryan Davis
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 11/20/2013 03:30 PM, Quim Gil wrote: Propose your RFCs for the next review meeting on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM UTC in #wikimedia-meetbot

[Wikitech-l] RFC: Structured logging

2013-12-03 Thread Bryan Davis
I have just posted a new draft RFC to alter the wfErrorLog() family of functions to make logged events carry more data and have a common output format [0]. This RFC was started as a part of the current DevOps related work [1] being done by the Platform Core team. Ori, Aaron and I would like to

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Structured logging

2013-12-03 Thread Tyler Romeo
The RFC on third-party components may interest you: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Third-party_components If we use the Monolog library, which is used in Symfony and others, we can avoid having to re-implement an entire logging framework. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Structured logging

2013-12-03 Thread Bryan Davis
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: The RFC on third-party components may interest you: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Third-party_components If we use the Monolog library, which is used in Symfony and others, we can avoid having to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-12-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: We'll gradually enable module storage on all Wikimedia wikis over the course of the next week or two. Ori deployed this to the live site earlier today :) . For reference, the original post about module storage is archived at