I see traditional email and newsgroup clients missing a bit from
Krinkle's list. Subthreading works perfectly fine in Thunderbird (but
even in Outlook Express!). Indenting is the one characteristic found in
all wiki conversations: subthreading can't be discarded based on gut
feelings.
In my
Can I just chime in briefly and say I am glad this conversation is
happening before Flow goes into production. This is the kind of
conversation that leads to better software, especially when power users
participate in the discussion and influence design decisions long before
software is pushed out
Hi,
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 02:41:07PM +0200, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
It's not specific to es and pt, it's easy to spot such URLs in any
stats.grok.se top pages report: http://stats.grok.se/de/top
That URL is (currently) for March data, and characteristics changed
considerably since then.
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:22 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Sunday, June 8, 2014, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra
martijnhoeks...@gmail.com javascript:;
wrote:
Flow stores the comments as a
The key thing about Usenet and email is that the first-class entity
was the individual message - on web forums, the first-class entity is
the thread. On Usenet or email, a thread is something strung
together on the fly from the surviving References: headers of whatever
messages have made it as far
On 9 June 2014 10:30, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
[1] i.e. a tree structure is far less powerful than what we have now to
approximate the domain, a dag with dividable nodes probably comes closer,
and is already fiendishly complicated to pull off on a UI level. And then I
Am 09.06.2014 11:42, schrieb David Gerard:
I wonder how much everyone would hate us if we just replaced talk
pages with Apache Wave ...
or Etherpad
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote:
Am 09.06.2014 11:42, schrieb David Gerard:
I wonder how much everyone would hate us if we just replaced talk
pages with Apache Wave ...
or Etherpad
Why stop at talk pages?
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 11:39:28PM -0700, S Page wrote:
[ Jigsaw CSS validator over-complaining ]
Full ACK.
Especially, the relevant data uris like
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 7:49 AM, wp mirror wpmirror...@gmail.com wrote:
However, I notice that, for most MediaWiki extensions, when I execute:
(shell)$ git branch -r
the git repo does not (yet) show an `origin/REL1_23' branch that I can
checkout. While some extensions show a recent
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Christian Aistleitner
christ...@quelltextlich.at wrote:
2. Client fetches resources for this page (like
http://bits.wikimedia.org/pt.wikipedia.org/load.php?[...]
with referer
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_do_Mundo_FIFA
).
3. Client fetches
On 05/31/2014 12:38 PM, Chad wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com
wrote:
I don't like this idea, for the same reasons that other have already
given. Grafting histories with git-replace might be viable, but it'd still
be clunky and non-intuitive.
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 17:55:42 +0200, Sumana Harihareswara
suma...@wikimedia.org wrote:
* A bigger repo is obviously slower to download in full; is it also
slower to search or otherwise work with? How much slower? Most of our
developers are probably not on SSDs yet.
It is, but only when you're
Hi,
we are going to have another IRC office hour about the migration to
Phabricator: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
in #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net
on June 17, 2014 (Tuesday) at 17:30 UTC
We will quickly present the status, progress, open issues.
And we are happy
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
* A bigger repo is obviously slower to download in full; is it also
slower to search or otherwise work with? How much slower? Most of our
developers are probably not on SSDs yet.
git is largely insensitive to
[beating my own drum:]
Indeed, I have a working (rough draft of) realtime collaborative
editing at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TogetherJS.
It is quite an interesting UX when you allow realtime writing at
each other in this form. Old-timers will remember ytalk chats as a
very
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com
wrote:
That's precisely my point. Because current talk page discussions are - on
the software level - unstructured, it allows social conventions to do
everything you want it to do structure wise, and to invent new
[weighing in on the nesting/quoting bikeshed: the structured quoting
which Simple Machines Forum (SMF) provides is a nice compromise: it
preserves the exact origin of the quoted material, for easy
backreference, but it also allows flexible editing of the quoted
content and for combining
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Martijn Hoekstra
martijnhoeks...@gmail.com
wrote:
That's precisely my point. Because current talk page discussions are - on
the software level - unstructured, it allows social conventions
On 9 June 2014 02:30, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:22 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Sunday, June 8, 2014, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Martijn Hoekstra
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:05 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On 9 June 2014 02:30, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:22 AM, James Forrester
jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Sunday, June 8, 2014, Martijn Hoekstra
On 9 June 2014 11:12, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:05 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On 9 June 2014 02:30, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
That takes care of the issues of replying to one comment (a new
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 2:20 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
You think people want dual inheritance for comments? Seriously?
That's… (to be polite) completely insane as a discussion system from a
user perspective, and perhaps more importantly for your argument,
completely
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On 9 June 2014 11:12, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:05 AM, James Forrester
jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On 9 June 2014 02:30, Martijn Hoekstra
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
So I want to know:
* What are the blockers for doing this?
* Are there any use cases / killer features in LiquidThreads that are
not in
On 9 June 2014 11:28, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
You think people want dual inheritance for comments? Seriously?
That's… (to be polite) completely insane as a discussion system from a
user
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:33 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
On 9 June 2014 11:28, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James Forrester
jforres...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
You think people want dual inheritance for comments?
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:52:44 +0200, Martijn Hoekstra
martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
In this case, which post are you replying to in flow when you reply to
multiple people? In mediawiki you sort of work around the issue, and it
sort of works because you try to create some ad-hoc solution.
On 06/03/2014 03:29 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
We are polishing the API and finishing final testing. The documentation
for the upcoming API is available at
http://growthdoc.wmflabs.org/NonLinearGuidedTourPreview/ (this URL is
temporary), so if you think something could be clarified or tweaked,
On 9 June 2014 13:51, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:30 AM, Martijn Hoekstra
martijnhoeks...@gmail.com
wrote:
That's precisely my point. Because current talk page
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:
(1) nothing lines up like it does on normal history pages, and (2) I can't
see everything that changed since I last looked. Yes, I'm probably atypical
in that I like reading wikitext diffs for discussion pages.
This change is getting finalised with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/138029
- please fix your code if you haven't done so yet!
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, in response to bug 54607 [1], we've changed the semantics of the
mobileformat parameter
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 11:33:12AM -0400, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Christian Aistleitner
christ...@quelltextlich.at wrote:
2. Client fetches resources for this page (like
http://bits.wikimedia.org/pt.wikipedia.org/load.php?[...]
with referer
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 11:26:35PM +0200, Christian Aistleitner wrote:
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 11:33:12AM -0400, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Christian Aistleitner
christ...@quelltextlich.at wrote:
2. Client fetches resources for this page (like
Hello,
Please feel free to join the Engineering Community Team (ECT) tomorrow
(June 10th) at 1700 UTC in #wikimedia-office on IRC. The ECT hosts office
hours in #wikimedia-office the second Tuesday of every month.
Check here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Calendar for upcoming
summer
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
(As a brief plug: I would like to make
WP feel more like an active community of *people* and less like a
sterile collection of pages authored by some invisible cabal; from
some previous threads about the last edit banner on mobile I'm sure
there are some who prefer the
Please join us on google hangout June 11 @ 1900 UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=WikiFontiso=20140611T12p1=224ah=1
for the following Tech Talk:
*How, What, Why of WikiFont*
*Presented by Core Features Engineer: Shahyar Ghobadpour, Visual Designer:
May Galloway and
Hi all,
We've got the first DRAFT (sorry for shouting, but can't hurt to
emphasize :)) of the annual goals for the engineering/product
department up on mediawiki.org. We're now mid-point in the process,
and will finalize through June.
Correction to my last email: tomorrow's ECT IRC Hour begins at 1600 UCT
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=ETC+IRC+Houriso=20140610T16p1=1440
.
Thanks!
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Rachel Farrand rfarr...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Hello,
Please feel free to join the
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
This. Nobody, but nobody, asked the WMF to create this sort of system, and
it is a rather quixotic goal given that each project has its own set
of workflows.
Hey Anne,
We're of course pretty familiar with many of the highly
There is currently a proposal to make {{!}} a magic word that directly
outputs |, the pipe character, rather than calling Template:!. If your wiki
currently has Template:! set up to output a pipe, or if it doesn't have a
template called Template:!, then this change doesn't affect you. All of the
Hi,
On Jun 9, 2014 8:55 PM, Rachel Farrand rfarr...@wikimedia.org wrote:
If you want to watch live you can join the hangout here
https://plus.google.com/events/chpgv8usjd6dn38on07njjk28hg and
Please send the corresponding youtube links *early*.
(Ideally, every time you mention the Google plus
On Jun 10, 2014 12:14 AM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:
Are there any docs onwiki somewhere for how to run/announce a meeting?
(so we can make sire those docs mention the requirement for youtube link)
gah, Android keyboard…
s/sire/sure/
-Jeremy
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