[Wikitech-l] ?מה עושה אותך מאושר השבוע / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 10 June 2018)

2018-06-09 Thread Pine W
Here are some highlights: * "Improved geocoding in CiviCRM", by Eileen McNaughton: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/06/05/improved-geocoding-in-civicrm/ * "Thank you week-end thread", with posts by hashar ( https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2018-June/090126.html) and legoktm (

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Here's my 2 cents. License is one example for me, if you are using gerrit and all of WMF infrastructure (from jenkins to translatewiki integration) you have to publish your code with at least one OSI-approved license. You can't say "All rights reserved" and still use all the benefits that came

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Nischay Nahata
I think there's a lot of misunderstanding on this whole thing. The issue pointed out was that the CoC makes a false feeling of protection by being in extensions that are developed outside WMF's technical spaces. That is if I had an issue with an extension's maintainer WMF would refuse to help as

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Brian Wolff
Taking a step back here... I agree with you in principle...but Shared spaces imply that occasionally disputes are going to arise as to what belongs in a repo. If we dont have a fair method of resolving such disputes (/my way or the highway/ is not fair), then this model is not going to work. --

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
I'd just like to apologize for dragging the other thread into this one and being overly personal and failing to assume good faith. That was a failing on my part, and not good practice. Please if you respond further to this thread, treat only the narrow issue of ownership / maintainership

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thank you week-end thread

2018-06-09 Thread Kunal Mehta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Thank you for starting this thread :) On 06/08/2018 12:03 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Marco Aurelio, who has been dramatically helping to archive a few > outdated/no more working extensions. The workflow is nice, makes > sure nothing get

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Alex Monk
And that's fine and good and should continue, but doesn't mean it's a shared ownership model. As I was saying before with the analogy, global users make uncontroversial edits using their rights but aren't supposed to use their global rights to involve themselves in controversies. On 9 June 2018

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Kunal Mehta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, CoC.md business aside, I agree with the main thing you've said. Specifically: On 06/09/2018 08:58 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > I think we should though clarify that code repositories on gerrit > and diffusion are not owned by any one person, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:55 AM Isarra Yos wrote: > Perhaps I was too subtle the last time I hinted at this: this is toxic. > What you and others are doing misrepresenting what others are saying, > the general heavy-handedness, the implications that anyone against a > specific aspect of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Isarra Yos
On 09/06/18 17:30, Brion Vibber wrote: On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:21 AM Alex Monk wrote: For example where you said "IMHO specifically because some people are trying to avoid being bound by it or protesting its existence by looking for loopholes to avoid it", which is not at all what that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:21 AM Alex Monk wrote: > On 9 June 2018 at 18:14, Brion Vibber wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:00 AM Alex Monk wrote: > > > > > This is outrageous. Not only are you blatantly misrepresenting what > > various > > > people are saying in the other thread and their

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Alex Monk
On 9 June 2018 at 18:14, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:00 AM Alex Monk wrote: > > > This is outrageous. Not only are you blatantly misrepresenting what > various > > people are saying in the other thread and their intentions, > > > Perhaps. I've tried to go by the plain

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:00 AM Alex Monk wrote: > This is outrageous. Not only are you blatantly misrepresenting what various > people are saying in the other thread and their intentions, Perhaps. I've tried to go by the plain readings of position statements and I could have made a mistake?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Alex Monk
This is outrageous. Not only are you blatantly misrepresenting what various people are saying in the other thread and their intentions, you are now suggesting that repository owners do not in fact get to decide what goes in their repository and what does not, as if this has been the case all

[Wikitech-l] Gerrit as a shared community space

2018-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
Recent threads have demonstrated there seems to be some disconnect about what is expected about maintainership and ownership of repositories. This has spilled over into talk about the code of conduct, IMHO specifically because some people are trying to avoid being bound by it or protesting its

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can/should my extensions be deleted from the Wikimedia Git repository?

2018-06-09 Thread Bináris
Let me say I am very much surprised on this whole debate. We call these in Hungary "storm in a glass of water". Please step back all for a moment and try to look at the whole stuff from a broader view. We have a very first world problem, to write and discuss and enforce codes of conduct, and