Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:37 PM, bawolff wrote: > I'm concerned this would be seen as an inapropriate bias. > We could send them to something like https://whatbrowser.org/ or https://browsehappy.com/ Motivating users to update their outdated browsers would definitely be a good idea. It has the u

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Labs-l] Invitation first weekly Technical Advice IRC Meeting

2017-08-21 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Michael Schönitzer < michael.schoenit...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Wednesday, August 23rd, 2017 at 3 pm UTC, we start with our weekly > Technical Advice IRC Meeting on #wikimedia-tech IRC channel. > > The Technical Advice IRC meeting is open for all volunteer devel

Re: [Wikitech-l] MW Function for parsing and modifying template arguments on a page

2017-08-09 Thread Gergo Tisza
mwparserfromhell ( https://github.com/earwig/mwparserfromhell ) is also pretty good at this kind of thing. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Subramanya Sastry wrote: > Take a look at Parsoid's output spec and the Parsoid API (as exposed > through the REST API). > > See https://www.mediawiki.org/wi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Log of nulledits

2017-07-25 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Dan Garry wrote: > By definition, a null edit does not perform any change at all, and is > therefore not recorded publicly since there's technically nothing to > record. I suspect the only way you could find this kind of information is > in the server logs, and ac

[Wikitech-l] TemplateStyles coming to a wiki near you

2017-07-17 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, we'll enable TemplateStyles [1][2] tomorrow on mediawiki.org, wikitech.wikimedia.org and some test wikis. (Today for those of you in UTC or later time zones.) TemplateStyles allows editors to add complex CSS to templates with the help of a tag. This makes template maintenance easier, low

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] MobileFrontend disruption: Plans to break Minerva out into its own repository

2017-07-04 Thread Gergo Tisza
Nice! Thanks for working on this. On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > Dear all > Back in 2014, Legoktm made the sensible suggestion [1] that we should pull > the skin portion of code from the MobileFrontend extension. > > I've spent the last few months making it possible and I no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Group 2 deployment regression: Watchlist breaking change

2017-06-15 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:33 AM, יגאל חיטרון wrote: > Anybody? > Thank you, > Igal Central login issues tend to be hard to debug. Please file a private task about it, and provide timestamps and cookie information at each step of the process. Information about how many users are affected would a

Re: [Wikitech-l] @author annotations in files in the mediawiki codebase

2017-06-13 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Subramanya Sastry wrote: > I find these annotations misleading and wonder why they exist and what > purpose they serve. It can sometimes tell you whom to ask for advice or reviews. (git log would too but it's more effort.) ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question re what-links-here

2017-06-02 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 7:38 AM, zppix e wrote: > I was wondering if maybe we should have refreshLinks.php invaldiate cache, > cause when I think of RefreshLinks.php I think it will update the links > instantly, not overtime. > On large sites that would have an unwelcome performance impact. Addin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question re what-links-here

2017-06-01 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Aran wrote: > Strange, I've just noticed after coming back to it that the 1.27's are > looking fine now... does the refreshLinks script launch child processes > in the background or something? No, the script is fully synchronous. Refreshing the links does not in

Re: [Wikitech-l] use of @inheritdoc

2017-05-14 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > A question that came up during Documentation Day was whether or not we > should use the @inheritdoc convention for indicating that methods are > documented in parent classes (rather than leaving them blank). > It would be nice to check comp

[Wikitech-l] Extension compatibility policy can now be declared in infobox - please update!

2017-05-12 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, you can now declare in the extension infobox what compatibility policy is being followed. Most extensions follow one of two policies: * The master branch of the extension should remain compatible with older versions of MediaWiki core (supported versions, maybe even older ones). Developers

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q&A Session #2

2017-05-10 Thread Gergo Tisza
Now at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/EMWCon_Spring_2017/Third-party_wikis to prevent eyeball harm. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Github organization

2017-04-23 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Florian Schmidt < florian.schmidt.wel...@t-online.de> wrote: > So, I was wondering, if, and if yes how, I, as a community contributor, > could be a member of the Wikimedia organization on github. I searched on > mediawiki.org and wikitech, but couldn't find a poli

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fair use image indicated as free use?

2017-04-22 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 11:08 PM, John wrote: > ideally that span should be added by {{non-free media}} which is the meta > template for identifying non-free media. The template was updated a while ago [1]. {{non-free fair use}} does include it so not sure why that did not work... [1] https://

Re: [Wikitech-l] "must be of type int, int given"

2017-04-17 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Value returned from function f() must be of type int, int given Have you enabled PHP7 mode ? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Editing JSON in MediaWiki

2017-04-09 Thread Gergo Tisza
You probably want to subclass JsonContentHandler and add wikitext transform and whatever else you need. For schemas, have a look at JsonSchemaContentHandler in EventLogging. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Introducing the MediaWiki Platform Team!

2017-04-05 Thread Gergo Tisza
Awesome to see this happen (and with such a strong team)! MediaWiki core was the most painful gap in WMF's organizational focus for the last three years, thanks to everyone who helped fill it. On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 1:32 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Markus Glaser wrote: > >It's so great to see this ha

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-13 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 9:55 PM, bawolff wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:06 PM, Legoktm > wrote: > > On 03/09/2017 08:17 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > >> * NOTE: we plan to experiment with having a public HANGOUT meeting, > instead of > >> using IRC. > > > > Can I ask why? At least for me, Goog

Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2017-02

2017-02-28 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Pine W wrote: > Argh, I misread that. Median number of days, not number of bugs. Still > seems kind of high. > Probably a bug? We don't have any open UBN tasks right now. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] SHA-1 hash officially broken

2017-02-24 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Chad wrote: > But, like you said (and Dan pointed out on the task), this is far from a > drop > everything situation...we just need to start making some inroads to this > sooner rather than later. Since it's broken, making it faster is an > optimization > problem

Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating Parsoid & RESTbase into a secure MediaWiki Install

2017-02-22 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:14 AM, John P. New wrote: > I am running MediaWiki 1.28 on a shared host, which means no access to > node.js. So in order to run Parsoid and RESTbase I have installed both on > my home server. As such, I have no way of getting a trusted SSL certificate > for it; the most

Re: [Wikitech-l] Results of the Developer Wishlist are in

2017-02-15 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Jon Robson wrote: > I'd be interested to see how the priorities change. I'm interested > specifically in what pain points newcomers to our code might experience. We discussed running the wishlist in a more survey-like way (use Google Forms, ask a bunch of demogr

[Wikitech-l] Results of the Developer Wishlist are in

2017-02-14 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, voting for the Developer Wishlist [1] has ended. Thanks to everyone who participated! And extra thanks to everyone who helped. [2] You can find the the results, with links to the full proposals, at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Community_Tech_bot/WishlistSurvey/Votes As you might

[Wikitech-l] Request for Comment: TemplateStyles

2017-01-31 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, we are seeking input on the best way to enable CSS styling in wiki templates. There are some architecture decisions to be made about the storage, parsing and delivery to the client; we would appreciate insights from people experienced with the MediaWiki parser, Parsoid, VisualEditor and CS

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deprecation logging in production

2017-01-25 Thread Gergo Tisza
Nice, thanks!​ Here is a simple dashboard: https://logstash.wikimedia.org/app/kibana#/dashboard/mediawiki-deprecated ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] +2 request for yurik in mediawiki and maps-dev

2017-01-25 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > There's not exactly a whole lot of precedent here. Presumably, bblack did > it as part of an off boarding procedure. Eventhough I disagree with this > action, I dont think its an unreasonable action, especially given the lack > of precedent.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Handling support libraries that depend on php 5.6 via composer

2017-01-23 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Erik Bernhardson < ebernhard...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > * Fork the library, publish it under wikimedia/elastica, and change the > minimum version to 5.5.x This is a bit of a pain, but accomplishes the goal > You could also fork the package definition (ie. use a h

Re: [Wikitech-l] catching errors in local JavaScript

2017-01-19 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 1:35 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > AFAIK https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Sentry is the way to go, > perhaps currently blocked on procurement (https://phabricator.wikimedia > .org/T93138 ). > It's stalled due to lack of time, with a fair amount of puppet wrang

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit authentication denied - help

2017-01-03 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Daniel Barrett wrote: > $ git review -R > Password for 'https://dbarr...@gerrit.wikimedia.org': for developer account> > remote: Unauthorized > fatal: Authentication failed for 'https://dbarrett@gerrit. > wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/extensions/DynamicPageL

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2016-12-30 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > The questions for this session are being crowdsourced at > http://www.allourideas.org/wikidev17-product-technology-questions. Anyone > can propose questions and vote, anonymously, as many times as you want. At > the moment, we have 25 questions

Re: [Wikitech-l] Using OpenStreetMap with Wikipedia account

2016-12-22 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote: > So when used, the emailaddress of the user is shared with a third party. > Is this in line with the privacy policy ( https://wikimediafoundation.or > g/wiki/Privacy_policy ) ? The user isn't warned beforehand, you realize > it after granti

Re: [Wikitech-l] Offering internationalized programming facilities within WM enviroment

2016-12-21 Thread Gergo Tisza
I sympathize with the goal but accessibility benefits would be far outweighed by maintaince costs. We regularly use grep to find code which is about to be deprecated; wikis copy gadgets from each other; more experienced developers are sometimes asked to help a wiki where the local maintainers have

[Wikitech-l] List of clients which try to guess MediaWiki thumbnail URLs

2016-12-17 Thread Gergo Tisza
The current format of MediaWiki thumbnail URLs is very ad hoc: it depends on the media handler, the contents of the file, and a dozen different configuration settings. As a consequence, it is impossible to guess what a thumbnail URL will be, given the filename and the desired size; clients have to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Communication about proposed and planned UI changes

2016-12-16 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Pine W wrote: > My proposal would be that proposed UI changes which affect large > proportions of the user base should be announced 3 months in advance. > So here is a fun experiment: * choose an activity you do a lot (say, editing Wikipedia pages) * write a deta

Re: [Wikitech-l] 2016-12-14 Scrum of Scrums meeting notes

2016-12-15 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Grace Gellerman wrote: > * Eileen published our first real CiviCRM extension to > https://civicrm.org/extensions/unsubscribe-email-data-entry-screen > ** existing extensions are all actually Drupal modules, not publicized > except in gerrit > ** hope more of our

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Meeting Minutes (2016-12-07)

2016-12-12 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Daniel Kinzler < daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > * Victoria suggest to have a regular meeting to review/prioritize technical > debt. ArchCom to be invited. > Thank you! Systematic focus on that has long been overdue.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Arbitrary Wikidata querying

2016-12-10 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 5:30 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > A more advanced form of this Wikidata querying would be dynamically > generating a list of presidents of the United States by finding every > Wikidata item where position held includes "President of the United > States". Is this currently possib

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-10 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > It returns permission error to me > Uh, fixed. Looks like Phabricator keeps files private as long as they are not associated to any task. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

2016-12-10 Thread Gergo Tisza
​For reference, these are the changes being discussed: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F5022813 1) Significantly larger changes than this are happening all the time (the OOUI-ification of old forms, for example), without anyone noticing, so it's pretty clear people are reacting to the announcem

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Gerrit upgrade (w/ short downtime) tomorrow

2016-12-07 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Chad Horohoe wrote: > Tomorrow evening (18:30–19:30 UTC) I'll be taking Gerrit offline shortly > for a planned upgrade from 2.12.5 to 2.13.3. It shouldn't take the full > hour, but you never know :) > It seems the links to Differential (next to the commit and par

Re: [Wikitech-l] Call graph creator applied to MediaWiki and extensions

2016-11-11 Thread Gergo Tisza
Sounds like a cool project! If you are not specifically interested in static graphs, you can also use profilers (XDebug, xhprof) to capture calls as they happen and display them with KCacheGrind or something similar. That gives you call graphs which include information like percentage of time spent

[Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-announce] CentralAuth security update

2016-11-02 Thread Gergo Tisza
A security bug [1] has been fixed in CentralAuth; the bug caused logouts to silently fail if the local account on the central login wiki was unattached. That does not happen under normal circumstances, so the vulnerability can only be exposed if some other error causes attaching accounts to fail; n

[Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-announce] OAuth security update #2

2016-11-02 Thread Gergo Tisza
The recent OAuth security fix [1] had a bug [2] which caused some legitimate OAuth requests to be rejected. The affected versions have been updated to work properly. Apologies for the disruption. Gergő https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Tgr_(WMF) [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediaw

Re: [Wikitech-l] Need example code in Javascript to login API

2016-10-27 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > Firstly, I'm afraid that page might not be up to date; there have been > some changes to modernize the login API recently, and that page was last > updated in 2013. The canonical documentation is < > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Automatic gerrit authentication and retrieval of reviews

2016-10-21 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Strainu wrote: > I'm simply trying to make it easy for the users. In the current > version of the tool, they login with the github account and the rest > happens "magically": the tool retrieves their pull requests and scores > them according to a predefined set of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Automatic gerrit authentication and retrieval of reviews

2016-10-21 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:13 AM, Strainu wrote: > The real issue is how to match the user in the tool with the reviews > without user intervention. Any ideas or advice are appreciated, but > here are my thoughts on the issue: > Can you better explain what you are after? Are you worried that the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commons problem on own MW install

2016-10-19 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 1:38 AM, Bináris wrote: > I installed MW 1.23.15 on my laptop (running on a XAMPP). > > I have > # InstantCommons allows wiki to use images from > http://commons.wikimedia.org > $wgUseInstantCommons = true; > in LocalSettings.php. > Content of my template is: > [[Kép:Tick-

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct

2016-09-28 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:07 AM, Steinsplitter Wiki < steinsplitter-w...@live.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, the whole Code of Conduct Voting hasn't been widely > announced (just on phabricator). By my count, Matt has sent over twenty announcements about it to this list (and quite a few others) ov

Re: [Wikitech-l] Public Event Streams (AKA RCStream replacement) question

2016-09-26 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Andrew Otto wrote: > A public resumable stream of Wikimedia events would allow folks > outside of WMF networks to build realtime stream processing tooling on top > of our data. Folks with their own Spark or Flink or Storm clusters (in > Amazon or labs or whereve

Re: [Wikitech-l] Urgent help needed from WMF admins

2016-09-22 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 7:53 PM, James Alexander wrote: > Thank you very much Max ( and Gergő and anyone else who helped here). > No, I was only involved in breaking it :) Max just finished fixing by the time I got there (thanks indeed!) ___ Wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Please provide your use cases for pageview data in the action API

2016-09-13 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, the Wikimedia Foundation's Reading Infrastructure team [1] is preparing to work on exposing pageview data in the action API [2]. Pageview data is already available as a standalone REST API [3] but we are hoping to make access to that information more convenient by including it in the outpu

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to login with API?

2016-09-05 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Bináris wrote: > I found bot passwords, but they offer very limited user rights. > They offer rights for anything which is defined in $wgGrantPermissions [1], which should be include everything a bot might need. Feel free to file a bug if that's not the case, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to login with API?

2016-09-05 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 9:57 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > I think the API documentation should probably be made a bit clearer as I > think there are now two deprecated ways of logging in. We should likely > make it more explicit which way applies to which versions of MediaWiki. > This allows developers

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to login with API?

2016-09-05 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Bináris wrote: > {u'login': {u'*': u'Fetching a token via action=login is deprecated. Use > action=query&meta=tokens&type=login instead.'}} > Then I went to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login. > Here is stated something completely else: > action=clientlogin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Number of differences

2016-08-02 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Bináris wrote: > given a difflink between two states of a page, is there a way to tell by > bot, how many modifications there are? I.e. in how many fragments those two > differ? I know, this is not an exact question, but the software itself > interprets it somehow

Re: [Wikitech-l] problem confirmAccount

2016-08-02 Thread Gergo Tisza
Probably https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137843 . On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:10 PM, yonnel kurtz wrote: > Hi, > > i just have a problem with confirmAccount. I would like to understand. > > I use this extension. Just to confirm when someone ask createAccount, with > confirm email. > (My version

Re: [Wikitech-l] Loosing the history of our projects to bitrot. Was: Acquiring list of templates including external links

2016-08-01 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Do you believe that declaring "the implementation is the spec" is a > sustainable way of encouraging contribution to our projects? Reimplementing Wikipedia's parser (complete with template inclusions, Wikidata fetches, Lua scripts, LaTeX sni

Re: [Wikitech-l] Loosing the history of our projects to bitrot. Was: Acquiring list of templates including external links

2016-08-01 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > > Specifying wikitext-html conversion sounds like a MediaWiki 2.0 type of > > project (ie. wouldn't expect it to happen in this decade), and even then > it > &

Re: [Wikitech-l] Loosing the history of our projects to bitrot. Was: Acquiring list of templates including external links

2016-08-01 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > > HTML storage comes with its own can of worms, but it seems like a > solution > > worth thinking about in some form. > > > > 1. storage costs (fully rendered HTML would be 5-10 times bigger than > > wikitext for that same page, and much larg

Re: [Wikitech-l] Acquiring list of templates including external links

2016-08-01 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Marc-Andre wrote: > Clearly, all the data to do so is there in the database - and I seem to > recall that there exists an extension that will allow you to use the parser > in that way - but the Foundation projects do not have such an extension > installed and canno

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to find a repository?

2016-07-25 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Purodha Blissenbach < puro...@blissenbach.org> wrote: > Is there any tool or tutorial for this question? > For tool repositories specifically, yes: http://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/directory/ Which in this case directs you to https://github.com/MusikAnimal/pageviews

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit 2.12.2 test instance - PLEASE TEST

2016-07-18 Thread Gergo Tisza
On the whole it is a huge improvement (thanks for all your work on this, Chad & Daniel): - finally one can navigate from the global comment to the inline comments (although I wish they would stand out more in the history list) - the super annoying bug where clicking anywhere on an old page with no/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recent authentication session instability (was Re: Update from the Wikimedia Performance Team)

2016-06-17 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Thanks Brad for the implementation explanatin but I'd rather need a > document outlining the expectations for user-facing functionality. > > I just had to separately and manually login three times (on Meta, then on > Wikipedia, then o

[Wikitech-l] AuthManager getting enabled in production

2016-06-07 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, the Reading Infrastructure team will try to enable AuthManager [1] in WMF production this week, with the following schedule: - group0 Tuesday 22:00 UTC (yes, that's pretty much now) - group1 Wednesday 22:00 UTC - group2 Thursday 22:00 UTC I apologize for the very late notice. I realize th

[Wikitech-l] AuthManager enabled in beta

2016-06-01 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, AuthManager [1] has been enabled on the beta cluster. If you see anything strange, please file a bug and cc anomie (Brad) and me. If you are maintaining authentication-related code, and have some time to test it, that would be awesome. If you see serious breakage, please file blockers for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Update from the Perf Team

2016-05-29 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > IIRC, InstantCommons is slightly trickier as you also need to make multiple > API calls to fetch thumbnail URLs, made even worse by needing to fetch > multiple resolutions for srcset. This gets real nasty if there are a lot of > files and the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal to invest in Phabricator Calendar

2016-05-16 Thread Gergo Tisza
It would also be nice to see spare funds spent on finishing the Bugzilla -> Phabricator conversion properly (it would build trust in our ability to pull of the other proposed transitions properly), see T687 (and other subtasks of T850). Although that would probably require local development, not Ph

Re: [Wikitech-l] REL1_27 branches up

2016-05-05 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Chad wrote: > Well then it sounds like it won't make the 1.27 release. We've known > this branching was coming for the last 6 months :) > Is there a way to do a backport before the release candidate gets published? The problem with doing major changes after an LTS

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting rid of $wgWellFormedXml = false;

2016-05-03 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:43 AM, Max Semenik wrote: > At this point, I would say that everybody who screen-scrapes saw it coming > and breaking them is a good thing as sometimes, lessons just have to be > learned. > There aren't many options other than content-scraping if you want to transform Wi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting rid of $wgWellFormedXml = false;

2016-05-03 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > > There aren't many options other than content-scraping if you want to > transform Wikipedia articles into some semblance of structured data. We > even do it ourselves, for media metadata (and use an XML parser for it > Act

Re: [Wikitech-l] Docs, use of, and admin privileges for wikimedia github project?

2016-04-26 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:34 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: > https://github.com/wikimedia/ is surely a mess. If GitHub had a way to > flag a repo as being a mirror, they could be filtered out easily (maybe > one can fill a feature request to them). > Github's repo lists are in general not very helpf

Re: [Wikitech-l] Docs, use of, and admin privileges for wikimedia github project?

2016-04-25 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > I, for one, appreciate it. GitHub's interface is unfortunately a lot more > convenient than any of the repository viewers we host ourselves. :( > And fairly often I need to give somebody a link to a code snippet in one > of our repos.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Unique Devices data available on API

2016-04-19 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Erik Zachte wrote: > Like Nuria said: this is unique devices, not unique people. Many people in > the Global North use more than one device to access Wikipedia (desktop, > tablet, phone). > Sure, and browses which rejects or periodically delete cookies will be c

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Analytics] Unique Devices data available on API

2016-04-19 Thread Gergo Tisza
Very interesting, thank you! Do you have any estimate of how much this overcounts? I checked the monthly uniques for huwiki , and it's about 5.8 million, which is a bit higher than the to

[Wikitech-l] Help review/test AuthManager

2016-04-19 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, AuthManager [1][2] is getting close to being completed. It will replace AuthPlugin as the interface for authentication extensions, and involves a rewrite of most authentication code in core (password handling in User, login/signup/password change/password reset APIs and special pages). It

Re: [Wikitech-l] ORES extension soon be deployed, help us test it

2016-02-21 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > We should make a patch like this > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/269478/ > but for testwiki AFAIK. > testwiki is in the production cluster. For the beta cluster, make a similar patch but change the *-labs files instead. You can find

Re: [Wikitech-l] Jenkins: Composer require-dev packages now supported for MediaWiki builds

2016-02-16 Thread Gergo Tisza
Awesome, thanks Timo & Bryan! On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Krinkle wrote: > * PHPUnit is now loaded from $WORKSPACE/vendor instead of the frozen legacy > copy at /srv/deployment/integration/phpunit. > How does that work for mwext-testextensions? Will each extension run with its own phpunit

Re: [Wikitech-l] Windows Single Sign-On Extension

2016-02-14 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:11 PM, François St-Arnaud wrote: > When is this new authentication mechanism slated to make it to the > baseline? Is it planned / on track for 1.27? It's planned to happen before 1.27. Probably not long before, though. > Will (have) existing extensions be (been) adap

Re: [Wikitech-l] Windows Single Sign-On Extension

2016-02-10 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:06 PM, François St-Arnaud wrote: > Right. As mentioned in my first post, I already have created a custom > extension using this approach and NTLMActiveDirectory as a starting point. > Now, I wonder if it is worth sharing with the community, if others would > benefit from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes to token system?

2016-01-27 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Magog The Ogre wrote: > Good evening. For the past week, my bot has intermittently been seeing this > error when it tries to edit or upload: > > API Error: Array > ( > [code] => badtoken > [info] => Invalid token > [*] => See http://commons.wikimedia.o

Re: [Wikitech-l] INFO: Reading web release process update

2016-01-26 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > We think this will be a better approach for everyone. Our only remaining > question is when and if to do release number bumps in future. We'll be back > with an answer about that shortly... ideas welcomed. > Who is the target audience of relea

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Xmldatadumps-l] Wikipedia dumps

2016-01-11 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > On 2016-01-11 22:06, gnosygnu wrote: > >> So, to answer your question, the IDs never change. 14640471 will always >> point to Mars, while 699008434 points to the 2016-01-09 revision for Mars. >> > > While it's unlikely/rare, I think th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Setting up Mediawiki-Vagrant for debugging

2015-12-31 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Techman224 wrote: > It seems to be picking up the connection, but I don’t think the > breakpoints are working properly. When I put in a breakpoint, it seems to > ignore it. But when I check “Break at first line in PHP scripts", it breaks > on index.php. This is pr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Setting up Mediawiki-Vagrant for debugging

2015-12-27 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Techman224 wrote: > I am trying to link my vagrant instance with my php debugger, PhpStorm. I > tried following the instructions at > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki-Vagrant#Provisioning < > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki-Vagrant#Provisioning> a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

2015-12-04 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Oliver Keyes wrote: > That way people can get the information from the nicely-formatted > source without simultaneously being lured by a not-as-nicely formatted > source. Why is that better than making both sources nicely formatted? All it probably takes is flip

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

2015-12-03 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > This list strips HTML formatting. Looks like we identified the root problem then. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikit

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Relations Weekly Summary

2015-12-02 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Dan Garry wrote: > I agree with this. The weekly update email, as currently structured, is > pretty much unreadable for me. A short summary would work better for me. > You can click the first link and read the wiki version, where all the links are not formatted in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Git for idiots

2015-11-12 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > On that last point, git-review 1.26 comes with a new option 'usepushurl' > which makes git-review reuse the origin repo and just set the push url > to the ssh:// url. The 'gerrit' remote will no more be needed. > > Ie in your ~/.gitconfig :

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RFC] Balanced templates (was: [RFC] Hygienic templates)

2015-11-11 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:40 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >2. `{{#balance:inline}}` would only allow inline (i.e. phrasing) content >and generate an error if a ``/``/``/``/``/``/` >`/`` tag is seen in the content. Why is in that list? It's not flow/block content model and filtering

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skinning tutorial

2015-11-11 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: > On 11/11/15 02:06, S Page wrote: > >> Re: >> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Isarra/How_to_make_a_motherfucking_skin >> >> I have a dream where both extensions/BoilerPlate and skins/Example are a >> script that prompts for your extension

Re: [Wikitech-l] Random rant

2015-10-28 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:40 AM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > I think the point of the approval process is that I don't install > OAuth app key in the application like Vicuña ( > https://github.com/yarl/vicuna). > > There is no clear consensus what to do with apps like this. One idea > would be ever u

Re: [Wikitech-l] Random rant

2015-10-28 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:33 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Even if we implemented options 2 or 3 immediately, the lack of external > visibility into the queue and the lack of notifications for queue > submissions would very likely also need to be addressed. The queue is public ( https://meta.wikimedi

[Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-announce] End of HTTP support for InstantCommons

2015-10-27 Thread Gergo Tisza
Wikimedia has recently switched to HTTPS [1]; due to some unexpected problems this caused for third-party wikis, the domains used by the InstantCommons [2] feature continued to support HTTP. That ends now; in a few day, these connections will be redirected to HTTPS. MediaWiki was updated to correc

[Wikitech-l] Short license blocks

2015-10-27 Thread Gergo Tisza
In a recent blog post ( http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6867 ) ESR writes: High on my list of Things That Annoy Me When I Hack is sourcefiles that > contain huge blobs of license text at the top. That is valuable territory > which should be occupied by a header comment explaining the code, not a > boatl

Re: [Wikitech-l] i would like that i need not set standart spacing in my code

2015-10-14 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, dinar qurbanov wrote: > it is possible to show prettified code in gerrit web pages, and send > prettified version to people if they get it via git fetch, but save > also their original form . > It really isn't. ___ Wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] svn/git backends

2015-09-25 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > "C. Scott Ananian" wrote: > > >> There has been a project in the past that converted a MediaWiki code > base > >> from SQL to use svn or git as message store. I do not remember which. It > >> worked afaicr but was discontinued as not bein

[Wikitech-l] OAuth handover

2015-09-24 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, OAuth support was added to MediaWiki two years ago, and has seen some significant uptake. (In case you are not familiar with it, OAuth[1] is a feature through which users can allow tools to act in limited ways through their account, without giving out their password. See Crosswatch[2] for

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.26 release blockers

2015-09-24 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > > What does being tagged with "MW-1.26-release" actually mean? T92796 and > > T113189, for example, were tagged by a bot after patches were merged that > > didn't completely close the bugs. > > Ostensibly: bugs that affect MW 1.26. In theo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea " Extension: Offline MediaWiki "

2015-09-22 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi Adisha, thanks for your interest in improving MediaWiki! On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:10 AM, adisha porwal wrote: > For participating in outreachy internship, I need a project idea that I > will be working on during my internship period. The project idea is to > develop a new extension to make

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