Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2015-01-14 Thread Marc Ordinas i Llopis
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis marc...@wikimedia.org wrote: TL;DR: * References made using Cite will be configurable with a different system * New approach being prototyped in Parsoid's native implementation of the Cite extension FYI: There's now a Phabricator task

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Arcane 21
Thanks for the clarification. I think the idea (as you explained it) sounds great, hope you guys can get it working. :) From: jforres...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:06:11 -0800 To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles On 16 December 2014 at 21:07, Arcane 21 arc...@live.com wrote: At the risk of sounding stupid, does this mean other wikis will need a Parsoid instance to use this extension

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Marc Ordinas i Llopis
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman d.j.hartman+wmf...@gmail.com wrote: Ehm, has accessibility been taken into account with this design ? Quoting WebAIM: Always use native HTML markup to provide the necessary semantic content and meaning, then use CSS to enhance and change the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 16 December 2014 at 04:45, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis marc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Due to how MediaWiki's messages system

[Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Marc Ordinas i Llopis
All, TL;DR: * References made using Cite will be configurable with a different system * New approach being prototyped in Parsoid's native implementation of the Cite extension The Cite extension[0], which provides in-page footnotes is a crucial part of how many of us use wikis, especially for

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis marc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Due to how MediaWiki's messages system works, changes to the display styles need to be copied into each of the ~300 display languages for users, else those users with different languages will see different

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Kevin Israel
On 12/16/2014 07:45 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis marc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Due to how MediaWiki's messages system works, changes to the display styles need to be copied into each of the ~300 display languages for users, else

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread James Forrester
On 16 December 2014 at 04:45, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Marc Ordinas i Llopis marc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Due to how MediaWiki's messages system works, changes to the display styles need to be copied into each of the ~300 display

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Arcane 21
, sounds like a great idea. I'm still confused on the exact details of how this will work, so I'd appreciate clarification. From: jforres...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:10:46 -0800 To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread James Forrester
On 16 December 2014 at 21:07, Arcane 21 arc...@live.com wrote: At the risk of sounding stupid, does this mean other wikis will need a Parsoid instance to use this extension, or is this simply being tested in a Parsoid environment and it's just using CSS instead of wikitext for rendering? If