Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-17 Thread Gabriel Wicke
The discussion notes are now also available on-wiki at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/OCCAM/ArchCom-03-15-2017 . Technical note: I pasted the contents into https://gwicke.github.io/paste2wiki/, which is using the REST API and Parsoid to convert HTML to wikitext. The biggest di

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-16 Thread Jan Dittrich
> Doesn't etherpad (https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/) fit that need > without being proprietary? I found that I miss the comment feature, but it can be plugged in into etherpad. Jan 2017-03-16 14:21 GMT+01:00 Brad Jorsch (Anomie) : > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Dan Garry wrote: > > > Googl

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-16 Thread Dan Garry
On 16 March 2017 at 13:21, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > > Doesn't etherpad (https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/) fit that need without > being proprietary? > Possibly. There are features that Google Docs has that Etherpad doesn't, but I don't know whether they're relevant since I'm not involved with

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-16 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Dan Garry wrote: > Google Docs is easier to spin up in the moment and edit collaboratively > than MediaWiki. Using proprietary software tools if they're a better fit > for the intended purpose is entirely consistent with the Foundation's > guiding principles > Do

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-16 Thread Dan Garry
On 16 March 2017 at 05:00, Legoktm wrote: > > As requested earlier, will these documents be moved to mediawiki.org or > is it now required to use Google's proprietary software to discuss the > architecture of MediaWiki? > If there's nothing private in there, which one can only assume there is not

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-15 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 03/15/2017 03:58 PM, Gabriel Wicke wrote: > Thanks for everyone who participated in the discussion. Unfortunately, we > ran into a technical issue with setting up the youtube stream that we > weren't able to resolve quickly (my apologies to those unable to follow the > stream), but we did t

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-15 Thread Gabriel Wicke
Thanks for everyone who participated in the discussion. Unfortunately, we ran into a technical issue with setting up the youtube stream that we weren't able to resolve quickly (my apologies to those unable to follow the stream), but we did take detailed notes

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-15 Thread Gabriel Wicke
Reminder: this is about to start in a couple of minutes. - What: High level mobile frontend requirements & plans - Agenda / discussion notes - When: March 15, 2-3pm PDT (San Francisco) -

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-14 Thread Adam Baso
The doc is now public read. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1id-E_KELGGA3X5H4K44I6zIX3SEgZ0sF_biOY4INCqM On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Adam Baso wrote: > I made a request to the document author for that, I imagine should be > available next week. Nothing secret in there, though. > > On F

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-14 Thread Pine W
Pinging Brendan Campbell regarding this conversation, in light of the discussion about technologies for meetings. Also, a general comment on meetings: I prefer that if there's text conversation, that it stays all in one place and in a channel that is archived by WMF (currently that solution is IRC

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-13 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 9:55 PM, bawolff wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:06 PM, Legoktm > wrote: > > On 03/09/2017 08:17 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > >> * NOTE: we plan to experiment with having a public HANGOUT meeting, > instead of > >> using IRC. > > > > Can I ask why? At least for me, Goog

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-13 Thread Marko Obrovac
Hello, On 13 March 2017 at 16:53, James Hare wrote: > For large conference calls, I highly recommend Zoom. (https://zoom.us). It > actually works for large conference calls. Wikimedia DC uses it all the > time and it is very effective. It is proprietary, but so is Google Hangout. > (I do not hav

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-13 Thread James Hare
For large conference calls, I highly recommend Zoom. (https://zoom.us). It actually works for large conference calls. Wikimedia DC uses it all the time and it is very effective. It is proprietary, but so is Google Hangout. (I do not have a good solution to *that* problem.) On March 13, 2017 at 2:

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-13 Thread Chad
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 6:37 AM MZMcBride wrote: > bawolff wrote: > >+1 to this being inconvenient. I don't always attend arch com > >meetings, but usually do if I happen to be online during the time. If > >its a hangout, it is extremely unlikely I would attend unless I was > >specifically propos

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-13 Thread MZMcBride
Gabriel Wicke wrote: >Daniel Kinzler wrote: >> Next week’s RFC meeting (tentative, pending confirmation): >> * explore High - Level Mobilefrontend Requirements (JavaScript >>frameworks, Progressive Apps, and all that jazz) >> >

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-12 Thread bawolff
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:06 PM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/09/2017 08:17 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: >> * NOTE: we plan to experiment with having a public HANGOUT meeting, instead >> of >> using IRC. > > Can I ask why? At least for me, Google Hangouts simply isn't an option > to participate wh

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-10 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 03/10/2017 01:11 PM, Gabriel Wicke wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Legoktm > With audio and video, hangouts provide a somewhat higher bandwidth, and > avoid the problem of many people discussing several topics at the same time > that larger IRC meetings frequently run into. > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-10 Thread Adam Baso
I made a request to the document author for that, I imagine should be available next week. Nothing secret in there, though. On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/09/2017 08:17 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > > Next week’s RFC meeting (tentative, pending confirmation): > > *

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-10 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 03/09/2017 08:17 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Next week’s RFC meeting (tentative, pending confirmation): > * explore High - Level Mobilefrontend Requirements (JavaScript frameworks, > Progressive Apps, and all that jazz) >

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-10 Thread Gabriel Wicke
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/09/2017 08:17 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > > * NOTE: we plan to experiment with having a public HANGOUT meeting, > instead of > > using IRC. > > Can I ask why? With audio and video, hangouts provide a somewhat higher bandwidth, and

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-10 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 03/09/2017 08:17 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > * NOTE: we plan to experiment with having a public HANGOUT meeting, instead of > using IRC. Can I ask why? At least for me, Google Hangouts simply isn't an option to participate when I'm in a crowded library/classroom. -- Legoktm _

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-10 Thread Adam Baso
> > >- What: High level mobile frontend requirements & plans >- When: March 15, 2-3pm PDT (San Francisco) >- Where: > - Stream: http://youtu.be/8W7WrTa3Py4 > - Hangout (25 active participants max): > https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/T7sMtE_ > gUxWZ4biKxPh5ffr

Re: [Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-10 Thread Gabriel Wicke
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > > Next week’s RFC meeting (tentative, pending confirmation): > * explore High - Level Mobilefrontend Requirements (JavaScript frameworks, > Progressive Apps, and all that jazz) >

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Hi all! Here are the minutes from this week's ArchCom meeting. You can also find the minutes at . See also the ArchCom status page at and the RFC board

[Wikitech-l] ArchCom Monutes, News, and Outlook

2017-03-02 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Hi all! Here are the minutes from this week's ArchCom meeting. You can also find the minutes at . See also the ArchCom status page at and the RFC board