Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-15 Thread Mark Holmquist
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 11:23:26AM +0100, Brion Vibber wrote: Well if we kill off XML and other funky formats we can call it the JSON API :) Actually, we should call it the YAML API, to be more complete. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?format=yamlfm -- Mark Holmquist Software Engineer,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-14 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
Summing up, it seems like action API and api.php are the two contenders. api.php is least likely to be confused with anything (only its own entry point file). But as a name it's somewhat awkward. action API might be confused with the Action class and its subclasses, although that doesn't seem

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-08 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: I like api.php too, given that we refer to the old one as query.php. You are in a keynote session at OSCON introducing... which API? Please

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-08 Thread S Page
tl;dr: It already is the MediaWiki web API. A codename as well is fine. Searching mediawiki.org, web API is almost as popular as MediaWiki API, and some of the uses are correctly for extension APIs and Parsoid's API. So the MediaWiki web API is a descriptive name that requires minimal changes.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread David Gerard
Call it Bob. Bob is always a good name. - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Pine W
We could name it in honor of Jimbo. ;) On Aug 7, 2014 1:18 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Call it Bob. Bob is always a good name. - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Brandon Harris
something something Unicorn. On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: When api.php was basically the only API in MediaWiki, calling it the API worked well. But now we've got a Parsoid API, Gabriel's work on a REST content API, Gabriel's work on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
UnicornPI (unicorn-pie) sounds good to me ;) On 8/7/14, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: something something Unicorn. On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: When api.php was basically the only API in MediaWiki, calling it the API

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Chad
Mmmm, Unicorn Pie. Now I'm hungry. -Chad On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: UnicornPI (unicorn-pie) sounds good to me ;) On 8/7/14, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: something something Unicorn. On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:32 PM,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Tim Starling
On 07/08/14 02:37, MZMcBride wrote: A quick count at https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php says that there are currently 52 list=foo entries and 83 action=foo entries. While these numbers are inflated due to installed extensions, I'm hesitant to present the MediaWiki Web API as an action API.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread David Gerard
but if you are a mobile developer using the REST API every day, you need some other term to specify api.php. Is api.php unsuitable for some reason? - d ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:58 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: but if you are a mobile developer using the REST API every day, you need some other term to specify api.php. Is api.php unsuitable for some reason? That itself is awkward to say, and to disambiguate between the actual

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Brion Vibber
Well if we kill off XML and other funky formats we can call it the JSON API :) -- brion On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:58 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: but if you are a mobile developer using the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread James Forrester
On 7 August 2014 11:23, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well if we kill off XML and other funky formats we can call it the JSON API :) ​Except the other APIs will likely use JSON too, AIUI… :-)​ ​J.​ -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, Editing Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:15 PM, James Forrester jdforres...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, this is sensible. Let's certainly not call it the MediaWiki API given how many are planned. Core seems a reasonable qualifier, though, no? Seems like the content API and a lot of other proposed interfaces are by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Core API can be misleading since people may think other APIs are based on MW's API (i.e. It's core of other APIs) even though It's true in some cases but not necessarily for all. Am I wrong? Best On 8/7/14, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:15 PM, James Forrester

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Legoktm
On 8/7/14, 10:58 AM, David Gerard wrote: but if you are a mobile developer using the REST API every day, you need some other term to specify api.php. Is api.php unsuitable for some reason? I like api.php too, given that we refer to the old one as query.php. -- Legoktm

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: I like api.php too, given that we refer to the old one as query.php. We should just go back to query.php and get rid of api.php so we can avoid all this confusion. /s *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Isarra Yos
I prefer Bob. On 07/08/14 08:40, Pine W wrote: We could name it in honor of Jimbo. ;) On Aug 7, 2014 1:18 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Call it Bob. Bob is always a good name. - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-07 Thread Quim Gil
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: I like api.php too, given that we refer to the old one as query.php. You are in a keynote session at OSCON introducing... which API? Please think on a name that is meaningful for the 3rd party developers out there,

[Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
When api.php was basically the only API in MediaWiki, calling it the API worked well. But now we've got a Parsoid API, Gabriel's work on a REST content API, Gabriel's work on an internal storage API, and more on the way. So just saying the API is getting confusing. So let's bikeshed a reasonably

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
How about just the MediaWiki API? That's the only proper external API core MediaWiki has, as far as I'm aware. If anybody is planning to tack on something new, they should be the ones thinking about what to name that thing ;) -- Matma Rex ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread Tim Starling
On 06/08/14 14:32, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: When api.php was basically the only API in MediaWiki, calling it the API worked well. But now we've got a Parsoid API, Gabriel's work on a REST content API, Gabriel's work on an internal storage API, and more on the way. So just saying the API is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread Tyler Romeo
wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject:  Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API How about just the MediaWiki API? That's the only proper external API  core MediaWiki has, as far as I'm aware. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using AMPGpg

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread Petr Bena
Reply: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: August 6, 2014 at 9:52:34 To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API How about just the MediaWiki API? That's the only proper external API core

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Romeo 0x405D34A7C86B42DF From: Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com Reply: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: August 6, 2014 at 9:52:34 To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread James Forrester
On 6 August 2014 14:53, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 06/08/14 14:32, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: When api.php was basically the only API in MediaWiki, calling it the API worked well. But now we've got a Parsoid API, Gabriel's work on a REST content API, Gabriel's work on

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread MZMcBride
Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: When api.php was basically the only API in MediaWiki, calling it the API worked well. But now we've got a Parsoid API, Gabriel's work on a REST content API, Gabriel's work on an internal storage API, and more on the way. So just saying the API is getting confusing. So

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-06 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 2014-08-06, 6:37 PM, MZMcBride wrote: Tim Starling wrote: How about the action API? The fact that it is organised in a hierarchy of actions distinguishes it from REST, which is organised as a hierarchy of objects. The term action also distinguishes it from RPC. A quick count at