Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Oh ok but all china needs is basic functions like editing and reading the page. and it would speed up the website because it would take less time to load the page on newer browsers then older ones. On Tuesday, 1 July 2014, 4:01, Daniel Norton wrote: On Jun 30, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Thomas M

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On Jun 30, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Thomas Mulhall wrote: > Hi but the users can I also get google chrome or Firefox or any other > browsers. No, that’s not always true. Many websites in China work only with IE. (Not too long ago many government websites required IE6). ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Hi we just need to keep the codes for internet explorer 6 for reading and editing with basic function. And remove internet explorer6 from extensions and .js codes. And start notify internet explorer 6 and 7 users to upgrade to internet explorer 8 with a link to where they can download it from. _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Hi we just need to keep the codes for internet explorer 6 for reading and editing with basic function. And remove internet explorer6 from extensions and .js codes. And start notify internet explorer 6 and 7 users to upgrade to internet explorer 8 with a link to where they can download it from. _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Ok. the message should only show to user if the code detects that they are using internet explorer 6 or 7. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

s.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Thomas Mulhall Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juni 2014 17:56 An: Wikimedia developers Betreff: Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support Hi but the users can I also get google chrome or Firefox or any

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Hi but the users can I also get google chrome or Firefox or any other browsers. Because chrome still support windows xp I think and still receives updates and it would speed up the site. Because it doesent need to check for ie 6 or 7. ___ Wikitech-l mai

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

In addition to what Trevor stated, we recently even merged a JS change that 'took away' a JS enhancement from IE6 users, leaving them just the plain HTML form function. So I think we are getting closer to a point where when it comes to JS/CSS we will be removing some existing JS/CSS functionality,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On Jun 29, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Trevor Parscal wrote: > 2. We have a policy in place that any browser with 0.1% market share or > more should be supported for reading and basic contribution It seems that wisdom would suggest flexibility on that policy if the < 0.1% includes a substantial portion

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

I'm happy to see us talking about leaving these old browsers behind, but it seems a few existing policies and situations may have been overlooked in this thread thus far. Hopefully this list of things to consider will be helpful: 1. We are planning on moving away from jQuery UI this year as pa

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On Jun 29, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > Reading between the lines: updates are complicated. …[M]any of the Windows operating systems are not direct purchases – these methods do not allow upgrade. i.e. virtually all copies o

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On 30/06/14 03:33, Brian Wolff wrote: > Wait, we support internet explorer 6? (Currently IE 6 is 1.17% and 7 > is 0.9%. On our scale, 1% is actually a very high number of people. > However some bots probably use IE6 as a user-agent, so unclear if > those numbers are inflated). If it were 1% spread

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Sounds good. I also would think about having Wikimedia banners at the top of the browser for users of IE6 through IE8 that caution them that they are using a browser and OS with security risks that might, among other things, leave them vulnerable to having their Wikimedia browsing, Wikimedia accoun

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Ok. We should also ask users of internet explorer 7 to upgrade to internet explorer 8. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On 06/29/2014 05:44 PM, Thomas Mulhall wrote: Well windows 200 is not supported. And windows xp internet explorer 6 was only made for windows xp. And windows xp user should upgrade to internet explorer 8 because internet explorer 6 has not been updated in a long time and has a lot of security flo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Well windows 200 is not supported. And windows xp internet explorer 6 was only made for windows xp. And windows xp user should upgrade to internet explorer 8 because internet explorer 6 has not been updated in a long time and has a lot of security flows whereas internet explorer 7 and 8 have smi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On 06/29/2014 11:56 AM, Thomas Mulhall wrote: Hi could we discontinue support for internet explorer 6 and 7 because jquery ui 1.11.0 drops support for internet explorer 6 and 7. Windows xp support internet explorer 8. and so I think we can discontinue support for internet exporer 6 and 7. IE 6

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Ah, question answered right before my post. OK. On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Pine W wrote: > Could IE6 and IE7 users edit without Javascript, perhaps by using the > mobile version of Wikipedia? Having a way for anyone to edit wikitext > without requiring Javascript sounds like a good idea a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Could IE6 and IE7 users edit without Javascript, perhaps by using the mobile version of Wikipedia? Having a way for anyone to edit wikitext without requiring Javascript sounds like a good idea anyway. On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > On 06/29/2014 03:08 PM, Antoine Mus

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On 06/29/2014 01:33 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: I would expect basic site functionality to work in IE 6. You should be able to edit a page, you should be able to read your talk page, etc. I wouldn't expect fancy new features to work unless they are critical to site function. Agreed, and that can be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On 06/29/2014 03:08 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: Le 29/06/2014 20:15, Thomas Mulhall a écrit : Well jquery iu says that less then 1% of those are using those browser so I think we should discontinue support for these browser windows xp can still get internet explorer 8 which supports more things the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

OK, next question is what costs would we be saving by dropping compatibility with IE 6 and 7? If the cost of maintaining compatibility is minimal, at least for basic Wikipedia accessibility and editing, then I hope that compatibility continues. Compatibility for advanced features may require more

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Le 29/06/2014 21:11, Pine W a écrit : > Do we still have populations of legitimate users who are working with > Windows-based operating systems older than XP? I have heard that in the > developing world Windows 2000 is still in use, despite its security > vulnerabilities. That said, I would not opp

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Do we still have populations of legitimate users who are working with Windows-based operating systems older than XP? I have heard that in the developing world Windows 2000 is still in use, despite its security vulnerabilities. That said, I would not oppose strongly encouraging users to switch to an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Le 29/06/2014 20:15, Thomas Mulhall a écrit : > Well jquery iu says that less then 1% of those are using those > browser so I think we should discontinue support for these browser > windows xp can still get internet explorer 8 which supports more > things then internet explorer 6 and 7. At Wikimed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Well jquery iu says that less then 1% of those are using those browser so I think we should discontinue support for these browser windows xp can still get internet explorer 8 which supports more things then internet explorer 6 and 7. ___ Wikitech-l mail

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > Wait, we support internet explorer 6? (Currently IE 6 is 1.17% and 7 > is 0.9%. On our scale, 1% is actually a very high number of people. > However some bots probably use IE6 as a user-agent, so unclear if > those numbers are inflated). There’s

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Well jquery iu says that less then 1% of those are using those browser so I think we should discontinue support for these browser windows xp can still get internet explorer 8 which supports more things then internet explorer 6 and 7. ___ Wikitech-l mail

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

On 6/29/14, Andre Klapper wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2014-06-29 at 16:56 +0100, Thomas Mulhall wrote: >> Hi could we discontinue support for internet explorer 6 and 7 because >> jquery ui 1.11.0 drops support for internet explorer 6 and 7. > > Could you elaborate how decisions made by Jquery UI deve

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Hi, On Sun, 2014-06-29 at 16:56 +0100, Thomas Mulhall wrote: > Hi could we discontinue support for internet explorer 6 and 7 because > jquery ui 1.11.0 drops support for internet explorer 6 and 7. Could you elaborate how decisions made by Jquery UI developers are relevant for us, and who the "we

[Wikitech-l] Discontinue internet explorer 6 and 7 support

Hi could we discontinue support for internet explorer 6 and 7 because jquery ui 1.11.0 drops support for internet explorer 6 and 7. Windows xp support internet explorer 8. and so I think we can discontinue support for internet exporer 6 and 7. ___ Wiki