Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-05 Thread Lewis Cawte
On 04/06/11 08:51, Ashar Voultoiz wrote: > On 04/06/11 02:07, Mono mium wrote: >> I still support. > Most users do not even know what a 'browser' is. They just look at their > computer desktop and double click the 'e' icon. > We're talking about Wikipedia right, surely we have an article that can

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-04 Thread Ashar Voultoiz
On 04/06/11 02:07, Mono mium wrote: > I still support. On a multiple millions visitors per day website, this is unacceptable. Most users do not even know what a 'browser' is. They just look at their computer desktop and double click the 'e' icon. Plus, 'internet explorer' sounds much better tha

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Mono mium
> From: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org > [wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] on behalf of Tei > [oscar.vi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 5:19 PM > To: Wikimedia developers > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6 > > "This site is best v

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Chad
IE6 support and actively remove it. > > From: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [ wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] on behalf of Tei [ oscar.vi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 5:19 PM > To: Wikimedia developers > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6 > > &

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Neil Kandalgaonkar
On 6/3/11 5:04 PM, Russell N. Nelson - rnnelson wrote: > At some point in the future, ops will report that we have had no visitors > using IE6 in the last few months. Then we can go on a hunt for IE6 support > and actively remove it. This may happen but it might be sometime in 2020. We still see

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Russell N. Nelson - rnnelson
Friday, June 03, 2011 5:19 PM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6 "This site is best viewed with Netscape Navigator 2.0 or higher. Download Netscape Now!" http://web.archive.org/web/19961226001115/www.cae.wisc.edu/~agnew/sp/luna.html It seems that these messages don&#

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Tei
"This site is best viewed with Netscape Navigator 2.0 or higher. Download Netscape Now!" http://web.archive.org/web/19961226001115/www.cae.wisc.edu/~agnew/sp/luna.html It seems that these messages don't get the point of the web. That is to let everyone browse the web with whatever is available to

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Dilley
Original Message- > From: Mono mium [mailto:monom...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 4:36 PM > To: Wikimedia developers > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6 > > Anyone can upgrade, Chad. It's not hard and any sane IT department > should have done it six year

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Thomas Morton
Heh, you think? Deploying a new browser is not a trivial exercise in some large-scale environments. And a lot of companies have really useless IT departments (i.e. no budget). Trust me; we get employed (at vastly greater expense than simply upgrading) to tell them why their IT infrastructure is

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Greenman, Ronald (NIH/CIT) [C]
.@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 4:36 PM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6 Anyone can upgrade, Chad. It's not hard and any sane IT department should have done it six years ago. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Chad wrote: > We shouldn't throw annoying text/

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Mono mium wrote: > Anyone can upgrade, Chad. It's not hard and any sane IT department > should have done it six years ago. > That doesn't mean we should punish people that work for a company with a less sane IT department. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) _

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Mono mium
Anyone can upgrade, Chad. It's not hard and any sane IT department should have done it six years ago. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Chad wrote: > We shouldn't throw annoying text/graphics at people who > probably *cant* upgrade. > > -Chad > On Jun 3, 2011 4:27 PM, "Mono mium" wrote: >> Why not

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Chad
We shouldn't throw annoying text/graphics at people who probably *cant* upgrade. -Chad On Jun 3, 2011 4:27 PM, "Mono mium" wrote: > Why not? > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Huib Laurens wrote: >> Thats completly not the point. >> >> 2011/6/3, Mono mium : >>> We don't want to use Microsoft's,

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Huib Laurens
We shouldn't focus on getting people away from IE. We should stay neutral and advice people to upgrade. 2011/6/3, Mono mium : > Why not? > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Huib Laurens wrote: >> Thats completly not the point. >> >> 2011/6/3, Mono mium : >>> We don't want to use Microsoft's, what

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Mono mium
Why not? On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Huib Laurens wrote: > Thats completly not the point. > > 2011/6/3, Mono mium : >> We don't want to use Microsoft's, whatever we do, because it promotes their >> own borked browser IE9. >> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mark Dilley wrote: >> >>> >>>

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Huib Laurens
Thats completly not the point. 2011/6/3, Mono mium : > We don't want to use Microsoft's, whatever we do, because it promotes their > own borked browser IE9. > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mark Dilley wrote: > >> >> >> Would it be a good community gesture to join Microsoft in trying to >> e

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Mono mium
We don't want to use Microsoft's, whatever we do, because it promotes their own borked browser IE9. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mark Dilley wrote: > > > Would it be a good community gesture to join Microsoft in trying to > eradicate IE6? > > http://TheIE6Countdown.com > > or to not join th

Re: [Wikitech-l] IE6

2011-06-03 Thread Mark Dilley
Would it be a good community gesture to join Microsoft in trying to eradicate IE6? http://TheIE6Countdown.com or to not join them and put up a more general banner http://IE6NoMore.com and move on? On 03Jun2011, at 10:53 AM, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Tim Starl