Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-07-11 Thread David Barratt
Although... while I don't think we should encourage private data disclosure, if people want to discluse that data, I think it should be structured. Therefor, I think global users should be Wikibase items on Meta https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173145 This would allow people to expose data they

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-10 Thread Adam Sobieski
A quick update: I moved a summary of our discussion from the encyclopedic content at the Account Verification article to an essay: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Account_Verification . Best regards, Adam Sobieski http://www.phoster.com/contents/ ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-09 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2018-05-09 at 00:12 +, Adam Sobieski wrote: > My thanks to all for an interesting discussion / debate. I hope that > those who participated also enjoyed the exchange of ideas. > > Those so interested are expressly welcomed to contribute on the > encyclopedia article(s) Account Verifica

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-08 Thread Adam Sobieski
/Wikipedia:There_is_no_credential_policy From: Kaartic Sivaraam<mailto:kaarticsivaraam91...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 1:26 PM To: Wikimedia developers<mailto:wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>; Adam Sobieski<mailto:adamsobie...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect On Tues

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-08 Thread Kaartic Sivaraam
On Tuesday 08 May 2018 07:57 PM, Adam Sobieski wrote: > In response to some discussion, I now consider there to be two distinct > topics: (1) MediaWiki software should provide configurable OpenID Connect > features for account verification and account linking, (2) Wikipedia should > utilize and

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-08 Thread Adam Sobieski
on behalf of Gergo Tisza Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2018 6:33:24 AM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:21 PM Adam Sobieski wrote: > In the scenario, after choosing to verify their name on their Wikipedia > account, a use

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-08 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:21 PM Adam Sobieski wrote: > In the scenario, after choosing to verify their name on their Wikipedia > account, a user logs onto Wikipedia and uses OpenID Connect to link their > Wikipedia account to multiple verified accounts, for example their Facebook > and LinkedIn a

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-07 Thread Adam Sobieski
M To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect "As aforementioned, system administrative configuration options could include allowing verified users to choose whether to display their real names or to display their usernames." I think you might be mis

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-07 Thread Adam Sobieski
will read more about GDPR. Best regards, Adam From: Wikitech-l on behalf of masti Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 10:05:09 AM To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect Adam, this is not technical but community

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-07 Thread masti
Adam, this is not technical but community problem. That should be first discussed with the communities - all of them - not only en.wiki whether there is any need for that solution. Which I doubt. I do not see many positives coming from using it but a lot of negatives. Enforcing that would mea

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-07 Thread David Barratt
"As aforementioned, system administrative configuration options could include allowing verified users to choose whether to display their real names or to display their usernames." I think you might be missing the point, we don't even want to collect that data in the first place, let alone allow no

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-05 Thread Adam Sobieski
Thank you again for the concerns and comments responded to in the following letter. INTRODUCTION Two distinct topics are discussed: (1) MediaWiki should provide its software users with OpenID Connect functionality including to verify their names and accounts via account linking, and (2) Wikipe

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-04 Thread Adam Sobieski
From: Wikitech-l on behalf of Max Semenik Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 10:37:36 PM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect Have you tried discussing this with the community? Let me tell you what their reaction will be: "we don't care who y

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-04 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > Account verification was initially a feature for public figures and > accounts of public interest, individuals in music, acting, fashion, > government, politics, religion, journalism, media, sports, business > and other key interest areas. Account verification was introduced to > Twitter in

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-04 Thread Max Semenik
wo (thoroughly) over the > weekend and respond early next week. > > > Best regards, > Adam > > From: Chad<mailto:innocentkil...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 9:03 PM > To: Wikimedia developers<mailto:wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-04 Thread Adam Sobieski
(thoroughly) over the weekend and respond early next week. Best regards, Adam From: Chad<mailto:innocentkil...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 9:03 PM To: Wikimedia developers<mailto:wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect On Fri, May 4, 2

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-04 Thread Chad
On Fri, May 4, 2018, 1:21 PM Adam Sobieski wrote: > With such features, we can envision allowing groups of users or admins to > determine that certain articles require a verified account to edit. > Why would this be desirable? -Chad > ___ Wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki and OpenID Connect

2018-05-04 Thread Adam Sobieski
Wikitech-l, Greetings. I would like to describe an exciting scenario possible with OpenID Connect. In the scenario, after choosing to verify their name on their Wikipedia account, a user logs onto Wikipedia and uses OpenID Connect to link their Wikipedia account to multiple verified accounts,