Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-23 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > 3. Help engage both the Bugzilla and Redmine communities if you've got an > interest in this topic. > > Speaking of this, I've sent out mails to both the Bugzilla folks and the Redmine folks: Bugzilla: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-23 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, Now that the pending changes work is well underway, I'm reviving this thread. Below are replies to Neil, Roan, and Chad: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote: > Just starting off the discussion, but am I right in assuming that this > is driven by a desire for t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-14 Thread Platonides
Priyanka Dhanda wrote: > http://project2.wikimedia.org/ is a Redmine instance with a data that > was migrated from bugzilla.wikimedia.org > The data is a few months old, I didn't get around to updating it > recently. You will have to use the "forgot password" option on your > bugzilla username

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-14 Thread Priyanka Dhanda
http://project2.wikimedia.org/ is a Redmine instance with a data that was migrated from bugzilla.wikimedia.org The data is a few months old, I didn't get around to updating it recently. You will have to use the "forgot password" option on your bugzilla username or create a new one. Also it does

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-14 Thread Platonides
Victor Vasiliev wrote: > Are there any public Bugzilla and Subversion dumps? I'd like to download > them and experiment with BZ/RM, but I need real data for it (and don't > really like the idea of downloading it manually). > > --vvv There are subversion dumps at http://svn.wikimedia.org/dumps/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-14 Thread Victor Vasiliev
Are there any public Bugzilla and Subversion dumps? I'd like to download them and experiment with BZ/RM, but I need real data for it (and don't really like the idea of downloading it manually). --vvv ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-14 Thread Neil Kandalgaonkar
On 2010-06-14 7:57 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > that shouldn't come at great > inconvenience to the developers, especially if the benefits are as > little as Neil says they are. Well, to be clear: I have an opinion against time tracking as a tool for product management or estimation, especially if i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-14 Thread Chad
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote: > On a slightly related note, I strongly believe Bugzilla exists for the > developers, not for project managers. Adding project management > features is a good thing, but that shouldn't come at great > inconvenience to the developers, especiall

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-14 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/6/14 Neil Kandalgaonkar : > Just starting off the discussion, but am I right in assuming that this > is driven by a desire for time tracking / project tracking, and this > comes primarily from PMs at the WMF? > > I sympathize but I'm skeptical about exactly how much a tool alone can > improve

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-14 Thread Neil Kandalgaonkar
Just starting off the discussion, but am I right in assuming that this is driven by a desire for time tracking / project tracking, and this comes primarily from PMs at the WMF? I sympathize but I'm skeptical about exactly how much a tool alone can improve things. I'm also skeptical of time tra

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-13 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:49 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: > fwiw, I added a lot of time/project-management functionality to my > Bugzilla when I was using it in a commercial project. Some of the > desired functionality was already available as patches on > bugzilla.mozilla.org; I added more, and m

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-13 Thread John Vandenberg
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Sorry for the email length here.  Here's my quick summary: > *  Trying to figure out how to do good project management on Bugzilla, > working with the Bugzilla community to juice it up > *  Failing that, we'd like to migrate

[Wikitech-l] Project management and issue tracking; Bugzilla vs Redmine

2010-06-13 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, Sorry for the email length here. Here's my quick summary: * Trying to figure out how to do good project management on Bugzilla, working with the Bugzilla community to juice it up * Failing that, we'd like to migrate off of it. Leading candidate: Redmine * Wiki page: http://www.me