Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-08 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/4/8 Risker risker...@gmail.com: Eran raises a key point. On his project, there was a significant discussion prior to the deployment. Hewiki has voluntarily, as a community, decided to participate in the early development of a tool. This is a very good thing, and one that reflects well

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-08 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 04/06/2013 09:16 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: By the way, it would be lovely not to call communication like nationalization... sometimes I see people coming to communities saying they're socializing something and it feels weird. ;-) (Especially as it's false good news.)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-08 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Sumana Harihareswara, 08/04/2013 14:36: Nemo, I have sympathy for you here -- it took a while for me to get used to the use of socialize in the way the Wikimedia communities use it. Not communities, the WMF. I think socializing is more than just communication implies, though;

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-08 Thread MZMcBride
Sumana Harihareswara wrote: On 04/06/2013 09:16 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: By the way, it would be lovely not to call communication like nationalization... sometimes I see people coming to communities saying they're socializing something and it feels weird. ;-) (Especially as it's false

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-08 Thread Tyler Romeo
I think as long as it's pretty obvious from the context that Wikimedia is not establishing a sovereign socialist nation, we should be fine with the current terminology. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com |

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-07 Thread Risker
Eran raises a key point. On his project, there was a significant discussion prior to the deployment. Hewiki has voluntarily, as a community, decided to participate in the early development of a tool. This is a very good thing, and one that reflects well on the hewiki community. This process

[Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-06 Thread MZMcBride
Risker wrote: Lydia, could you please point me to the discussion on *English Wikipedia* where the community indicated an interest in deploying this software? Infoboxes and sourcing to another website completely outside the control of English Wikipedia is a rather big issue, and I would expect to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-06 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 5:28 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Risker wrote: Lydia, could you please point me to the discussion on *English Wikipedia* where the community indicated an interest in deploying this software? Infoboxes and sourcing to another website completely outside the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-06 Thread MZMcBride
MZMcBride wrote: I think the issue we're seeing here is that changes, particularly large changes, often aren't socialized well. I mention socialization of features as I'm not sure all of the context is apparent here. There are brooding factions on the English Wikipedia over infoboxes, apparently.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-06 Thread legoktm
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 10:28 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Risker wrote: Lydia, could you please point me to the discussion on *English Wikipedia* where the community indicated an interest in deploying this software? Infoboxes and sourcing to another website completely outside the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-06 Thread Eran Rosenthal
In hewiki we had a discussion in village pump before phase II deployment and there is a simple bureaucratic policy for converting templates to use the new {{#property}} feature: a discussion in Wikipedia:Village pump/templates for each template conversion before actually adding {{#property}} for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-06 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Eran Rosenthal eranro...@gmail.com wrote: In hewiki we had a discussion in village pump before phase II deployment and there is a simple bureaucratic policy for converting templates to use the new {{#property}} feature: a discussion in Wikipedia:Village

Re: [Wikitech-l] Socializing changes

2013-04-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
By the way, it would be lovely not to call communication like nationalization... sometimes I see people coming to communities saying they're socializing something and it feels weird. ;-) (Especially as it's false good news.) https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/socialize (transitive) To