Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-10 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, You mean site_config? You're suggesting the interwiki system should look for a site by site_local_key, when it finds one parse out the site_config, check if it's disabled and if so ignore the fact it found a site with that local key? Instead of just not having a site_local_key for that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-10 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Daniel, thanks for your comments. Some of the suggestions you make would extend the functionality beyond what we need right now. They look certainly useful, and I don't think that we would make implementing them any harder than it is right now -- rather the opposite. As usual, the perfect and

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-10 Thread bawolff
Hey, You mean site_config? You're suggesting the interwiki system should look for a site by site_local_key, when it finds one parse out the site_config, check if it's disabled and if so ignore the fact it found a site with that local key? Instead of just not having a site_local_key for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-10 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, Having interwikis that support url re-writing based on the value does sound cool, but I certainly wouldn't want said code in a db blob We do not have code in blobs in the db, that seems like a rather mad thing to do! :) The blobs we have are for holding data or config specific to some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-10 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 05:03:58 -0700, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi Daniel, thanks for your comments. Some of the suggestions you make would extend the functionality beyond what we need right now. They look certainly useful, and I don't think that we would make

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-10 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, But I do expect that if we have a good idea what the optimal database schema and usage of the feature is that you'd make a tiny effort to include the fixes that Wikidata doesn't explicitly need. This is entirely reasonable to ask. However this particular change is not tiny, and it would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-10 Thread Chad
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: I don't think you're going far enough. You're rewriting a core feature in core but key issues with the old system that should be fixed in any rewrite of it are explicitly being repeated just because you don't need

[Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi all, here is our update on last weeks blocker email. The list got considerably shorter, but we have some long standing issues still there. No new blockers came up. == Ongoing == * Merging the Wikidata branch (ContentHandler) is still open, see

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Denny, Thanks for the update. Comments inline: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: * Merging the Wikidata branch (ContentHandler) is still open, see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38622. There has been no feedback in the last

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, ... is unclear why you're letting it block your work. The current interwiki related code in core has many assumptions baked in that prevent us from doing what we need to do in phase 1. For instance language links can only be made to sites with an id that is a language code. Since we're

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:54:03 -0700, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi all, [...] * Changeset https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/14295/, bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38705 about handling sites. The idea is to migrate from the interwiki table to the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Rob, thanks for the answers. 2012/8/9 Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org: It looks like this page needs an update as well: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_deployment Thanks, I updated the page. One thing that was tacked on the wiki page without mention here or a bug created was the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 09.08.2012 16:49, Rob Lanphier wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: * Merging the Wikidata branch (ContentHandler) is still open, see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38622. There has been no feedback in the last few

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, So if this is something hoping to replace the interwiki system I'd like to look over what the plan and overall idea is with this to make sure we don't repeat the same mistakes. Please have a look at the patch on gerrit then. Feedback is much appreciated :)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:12:16 -0700, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, So if this is something hoping to replace the interwiki system I'd like to look over what the plan and overall idea is with this to make sure we don't repeat the same mistakes. Please have a look at the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, Daniel, thanks for your input. TL;DR at the bottom :) The issue I was trying to deal with was storage. Currently we 100% assume that the interwiki list is a table and there will only ever be one of them. Yes, we are not changing this. Having a more flexible system might or might not be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Alolita Sharma
Denny, We are currently investigating using the Universal Language Selector instead of Stick to that language, and on first glance it looks good. If this remains like this, we will drop Stick to that language. That is why I didn't list the corresponding open issues there. We'd be happy to go

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Daniel Friesen
~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] On 12-08-09 12:00 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, Daniel, thanks for your input. TL;DR at the bottom :) The issue I was trying to deal with was storage. Currently we 100% assume that the interwiki list is a table and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, You bring up some good points. I think we're going to need to have some of this and the synchronization stuff in core. Right now the code has nothing but the one sites table. No repo code so presumably the only implementation of that for awhile will be wikidata. And if parts of this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata blockers weekly update

2012-08-09 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 12-08-09 3:55 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: Hey, You bring up some good points. I think we're going to need to have some of this and the synchronization stuff in core. Right now the code has nothing but the one sites table. No repo code so presumably the only implementation