[Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread David Gerard
Analysts agree! http://www.rightscale.com/blog/cloud-cost-analysis/cloud-cost-analysis-how-much-could-wikipedia-save-cloud _ - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread hoo
Am I wrong or did they actually calculate that for labs only (which would be rather funny)? At least they link to

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Paul Selitskas
This very article seems like yet another Hey check out my brand new Wikipedia redesign! story. No, you're not wrong. They took the170/385 numbers from the Labs stats. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:12 PM, hoo h...@online.de wrote: Am I wrong or did they actually calculate that for labs only (which

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 August 2013 16:12, hoo h...@online.de wrote: Am I wrong or did they actually calculate that for labs only (which would be rather funny)? At least they link to

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Randall Farmer
Sadly they're moderating comments. I tweeted at the author, with links to WMF Ganglia as backup, and he definitely doesn't believe me; maybe something from a WMFer would help, if anyone thinks it's worth correcting: https://twitter.com/hassankhosseini/status/370090365354655744 Going by the

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Tilman Bayer
https://twitter.com/hassankhosseini/status/370212655996235776 - he says that this was produced in collaboration with Wikimedian John Vandenberg (CC'ed), who might be able to provide more information on how the numbers were generated. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Randall Farmer

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Threw my title around, see if that helps. :) quote name=Randall Farmer date=2013-08-21 time=09:02:01 -0700 Sadly they're moderating comments. I tweeted at the author, with links to WMF Ganglia as backup, and he definitely doesn't believe me; maybe something from a WMFer would help, if anyone

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread OQ
Cloud Company posts blog about how you should move to the cloud; also, water is wet, the sky is blue, more at 11. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://twitter.com/hassankhosseini/status/370212655996235776 - he says that this was produced in

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Tilman Bayer
Annother recent publication that similarly used Wikipedia as an example to simulate the alleged benefits of a different hosting model: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/236942031_Symbiotic_Coupling_of_P2P_and_Cloud_Systems_The_Wikipedia_Case/file/5046351d1d1c3f051c.pdf (covered in the July

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com http://www.rightscale.com/blog/cloud-cost-analysis/cloud-cost-analysis-how-much-could-wikipedia-save-cloud How many machines do we have right now? Couple hundred? What's a Win2008 server license going for? What percentage of

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Michał Łazowik
Wiadomość napisana przez Randall Farmer rand...@wawd.com w dniu 21 sie 2013, o godz. 18:02: Sadly they're moderating comments. I tweeted at the author, with links to WMF Ganglia as backup, and he definitely doesn't believe me; maybe something from a WMFer would help, if anyone thinks it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org wrote: https://twitter.com/hassankhosseini/status/370212655996235776 - he says that this was produced in collaboration with Wikimedian John Vandenberg (CC'ed), who might be able to provide more information on how the numbers

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 08/21/2013 01:24 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: Running 450 servers for Wikipedia, 150 staff. On AWS you could run that with 2-4 sysadmins Obvious troll is obvious. Anyone who says something this with a straight face is either insane or has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. The one

Re: [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to Windows

2013-08-21 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com http://www.rightscale.com/blog/cloud-cost-analysis/cloud-cost-analysis-how-much-could-wikipedia-save-cloud How many machines do we have right now?