Re: [Wikitech-l] Firesheep

2010-10-26 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr wrote: On 25/10/10 23:26, George Herbert wrote: I for one only use secure.wikimedia.org; I would like to urge as a general course that the Foundation switch to a HTTPS by default strategy... HTTPS means full encryption, that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Firesheep

2010-10-26 Thread MZMcBride
George Herbert wrote: The current WMF situation is becoming quaint - pros use secure.wikimedia.org, amateurs don't realize what they're exposing. By professional standards, we're not keeping up with professional industry expectations. It's not nuclear bomb secrets (cough) or missile designs

Re: [Wikitech-l] Firesheep

2010-10-26 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:59 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: George Herbert wrote: The current WMF situation is becoming quaint - pros use secure.wikimedia.org, amateurs don't realize what they're exposing. By professional standards, we're not keeping up with professional industry

Re: [Wikitech-l] Firesheep

2010-10-26 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 10/26/2010 08:59 AM, MZMcBride wrote: As Aryeh notes, even those who act in an editing role (rather than in simply a reader role) don't generally have valuable accounts. The pros you're talking about are free to use secure.wikimedia.org (which is already set up and has been for quite some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Firesheep

2010-10-26 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:24 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: .. But I would prefer to move towards a logged-in user by default goes to secure connection model.  That would include making secure a multi-system, fully redundantly supported part of the environment, or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Firesheep

2010-10-26 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 26.10.2010 09:36, Nikola Smolenski wrote: On 10/26/2010 08:59 AM, MZMcBride wrote: As Aryeh notes, even those who act in an editing role (rather than in simply a reader role) don't generally have valuable accounts. The pros you're talking about are free to use secure.wikimedia.org (which is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Firesheep

2010-10-26 Thread Conrad Irwin
There is no real massive load caused by https at runtime. There is however a significant chink of developer and sysadmin time needed to implement this and make it work. For now, at least, the only optimisations that should be considered are those that make it easier all round. Conrad On 26 Oct

Re: [Wikitech-l] InlineEditor new version (previously Sentence-Level Editing)

2010-10-26 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/10/25 Jan Paul Posma jp.po...@gmail.com Hi all, As presented last Saturday at the Hack-A-Ton, I've committed a new version of the InlineEditor extension. [1] This is an implementation of the sentence-level editing demo posted a few months ago. Very interesting! Obviously I'll not see

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallel computing project

2010-10-26 Thread Platonides
Robert Rohde wrote: Many of the things done for the statistical analysis of database dumps should be suitable for parallelization (e.g. break the dump into chunks, process the chunks in parallel and sum the results). You could talk to Erik Zachte. I don't know if his code has already been

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallel computing project

2010-10-26 Thread Jyothis Edathoot
Develop a new bot framework (may be interwiki processing to start with) for high performance GPU cluster (nvidia or AMD) similar to what boinc based projects does. nvdia is more popular while AMD has more cores for the same price :) Regards, Jyothis. http://www.Jyothis.net

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallel computing project

2010-10-26 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
Στις 26-10-2010, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 16:25 +0200, ο/η Platonides έγραψε: Robert Rohde wrote: Many of the things done for the statistical analysis of database dumps should be suitable for parallelization (e.g. break the dump into chunks, process the chunks in parallel and sum the results).

Re: [Wikitech-l] Firesheep

2010-10-26 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr wrote: HTTPS means full encryption, that is either :   - a ton of CPU cycles : those are wasted cycles for something else.   - SSL ASIC : costly, specially given our gets/ bandwidth levels HTTPS uses very few CPU cycles by

[Wikitech-l] New installer is here

2010-10-26 Thread Chad
Good afternoon, In r75437, r75438[0][1] I moved the old installer to old-index.php and moved the new to index.php. At this stage in the process, I don't see us backing this out before we branch 1.17. I really want people to test it out and report any major breakages [2]. This has been a long

Re: [Wikitech-l] New installer is here

2010-10-26 Thread Erik Moeller
2010/10/26 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: A few quick notes: And, sorry for duplicating stuff from the known issues list. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] New installer is here

2010-10-26 Thread Brandon Harris
I am on ALL of these things, actually. I have fixes for most of them pending. On 10/26/10 10:41 AM, Erik Moeller wrote: 2010/10/26 Chadinnocentkil...@gmail.com: Good afternoon, In r75437, r75438[0][1] I moved the old installer to old-index.php and moved the new to index.php. At

Re: [Wikitech-l] New installer is here

2010-10-26 Thread Erik Moeller
2010/10/26 Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org:        I am on ALL of these things, actually.  I have fixes for most of them pending. Awesome :-) -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallel computing project

2010-10-26 Thread Tisza Gergő
Aryeh Gregor Simetrical+wikilist at gmail.com writes: To clarify, the subject needs to 1) be reasonably doable in a short timeframe, 2) not build on top of something that's already too optimized. It should probably either be a new project; or an effort to parallelize something that already

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallel computing project

2010-10-26 Thread Tim Starling
On 24/10/10 17:42, Aryeh Gregor wrote: This term I'm taking a course in high-performance computing http://cs.nyu.edu/courses/fall10/G22.2945-001/index.html, and I have to pick a topic for a final project. According to the assignment

Re: [Wikitech-l] New installer is here

2010-10-26 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: This has been a long development process for almost 2 years now, and I'd like to thank Max, Mark H., Jure, Jeroen, Roan and Siebrand for their invaluable help in working on this. And especially thanks to Tim for starting

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallel computing project

2010-10-26 Thread Robert Rohde
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: Στις 26-10-2010, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 16:25 +0200, ο/η Platonides έγραψε: Robert Rohde wrote: Many of the things done for the statistical analysis of database dumps should be suitable for parallelization (e.g. break the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallel computing project

2010-10-26 Thread Ángel González
Ariel T. Glenn wrote: If one were clever (and I have some code that would enable one to be clever), one could seek to some point in the (bzip2-compressed) file and uncompress from there before processing. Running a bunch of jobs each decompressing only their small piece then becomes feasible.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallel computing project

2010-10-26 Thread Ariel T. Glenn
Στις 27-10-2010, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 00:05 +0200, ο/η Ángel González έγραψε: Ariel T. Glenn wrote: If one were clever (and I have some code that would enable one to be clever), one could seek to some point in the (bzip2-compressed) file and uncompress from there before processing. Running a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commons ZIP file upload for admins

2010-10-26 Thread Maciej Jaros
@2010-10-26 03:45, Erik Moeller: 2010/10/25 Brion Vibberbr...@pobox.com: In all cases we have the worry that if we allow uploading those funky formats, we'll either a) end up with malicious files or b) end up with lazy people using and uploading non-free editing formats when we'd prefer them

[Wikitech-l] RT

2010-10-26 Thread a b
After the recent dicussions open open-ness and clarity with requests by serveral people what is contained within the RT after several people have asked and given answers like it's staff stuff. So what is stored in it that can't be within either the staff or internal wiki where it must be private

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commons ZIP file upload for admins

2010-10-26 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: Instead of amassing social constructs around technical deficiency, I propose to fix bug 24230 [1] by implementing proper checking for JAR format. Also, we need to check all contents with antivirus and disallow certain