Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-05-11 Thread Ryan Kaldari
What about this idea: We could introduce a new CSS class called 'nomobile' that functioned similarly to 'noprint' — any element set to this class would be hidden completely on mobile devices. If someone noticed a problem with a specific template on mobile devices, they could either fix the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-05-11 Thread Tei
http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/images/specificitywars-05v2.jpg I think theres a limitation to that, .nomobile .darthvader .darthvader will not work as expected (I think) On 11 May 2012 10:24, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: What about this idea: We could introduce a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-05-11 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:52:17 -0700, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Jon Robson wrote: Sorry for the lack of continued discussion on this thread. I've been thinking lots and lots about this over the last weeks and would like to suggest a course of action. I think we are agreed that the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-05-11 Thread Max Semenik
On 11.05.2012, 12:24 Ryan wrote: What about this idea: We could introduce a new CSS class called 'nomobile' that functioned similarly to 'noprint' — any element set to this class would be hidden completely on mobile devices. If someone noticed a problem with a specific template on mobile

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-05-11 Thread Jon Robson
It would be good if possible to get a more accurate feel for what percentage of articles use inline styles. e.g. articles that contain style= vs articles that don't This would help us get a better idea of what we are dealing with. The example given of highlighting - I understand the need for

[Wikitech-l] Problem with CSS Janus License

2012-05-11 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Stephen Smoogen has opened a bug about the license in CSS Janus. This needs wider discussion, though, so I'm copying it here. From https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36747: I am the maintainer of the mediawiki package for Fedora EPEL project. While putting together the package for 1.19 it

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r10152]: New comment added

2012-05-11 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Ladsgroup posted a comment on pywikipedia.r10152. URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/10152#c32797 Commit summary for pywikipedia.r10152: Adding categories sort for Persian Wikipedia Ladsgroup's comment: 1-No. We tried so many locale system. you can see it in my talk

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [pywikipedia r10152]: New comment added

2012-05-11 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Ladsgroup posted a comment on pywikipedia.r10152. URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/10152#c32798 Commit summary for pywikipedia.r10152: Adding categories sort for Persian Wikipedia Ladsgroup's comment: 1-No. We tried so many locale system. you can see it in my talk

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CSS Janus License

2012-05-11 Thread Chad
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@wikimedia.org wrote:    I am the maintainer of the mediawiki package for Fedora EPEL    project. While putting together the package for 1.19 it was found    that the license to maintenance/cssjanus is ASL 2.0 and the license    for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-05-11 Thread Thomas Gries
Am 11.05.2012 10:24, schrieb Ryan Kaldari: What about this idea: We could introduce a new CSS class called 'nomobile' that functioned similarly to 'noprint' — as we are talking about this - yes, I know [1]) - in a previous posting on #mediawiki_ I already asked to introduce a new class _

[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r115180]: Revision status changed

2012-05-11 Thread MediaWiki Mail
Nikerabbit changed the status of MediaWiki.r115180 to ok URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/115180 Old status: new New status: ok Commit summary for MediaWiki.r115180: Template moved from xx to qot. Per

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CSS Janus License

2012-05-11 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:    2) we need to look at mediawiki being used as GPL 3.0 even though it    is not explicitely licensed that way. I'm not 100% sure what's being asked here? Is this a request to relicense MediaWiki under GPLv3 instead

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CSS Janus License

2012-05-11 Thread Rob Lanphier
I think this is a solvable problem without changing our current licensing. Let's not have a big legal discussion on-list about this (or if we must hash this out publicly, let's do it on a list that deals with legal issues rather than tech issues). I've assigned the bug to myself, and I'll be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikisource link stats

2012-05-11 Thread Diederik van Liere
Hey Lars, You might be interested in the WMF Analytics mailing list at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics. There we discuss all our overall analytics projects, usually a little bit less focused on Mediawiki issues, but definitely focused on WMF data. Hope to see you there!

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CSS Janus License

2012-05-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 May 2012 16:41, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not 100% sure what's being asked here? Is this a request to relicense MediaWiki under GPLv3 instead of v2? Or is this a question of it being mis-licensed under v3 when we actually specify v2? Clarification is needed :) If it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-05-11 Thread Gabriel Wicke
On 05/11/2012 05:02 PM, Jon Robson wrote: It would be good if possible to get a more accurate feel for what percentage of articles use inline styles. e.g. articles that contain style= vs articles that don't This would help us get a better idea of what we are dealing with. I just grepped an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with CSS Janus License

2012-05-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 11 May 2012 09:03, Mark A. Hershberger m...@wikimedia.org wrote: Stephen Smoogen has opened a bug about the license in CSS Janus.  This needs wider discussion, though, so I'm copying it here. From https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36747:    I am the maintainer of the mediawiki package for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-05-11 Thread MZMcBride
Daniel Friesen wrote: Saying that inline styles are present on over 99% pages on en.wp is a logical fallacy. 99% of articles may have inline styles in their output but the only pages that are an actual issue are ones where the inline styles are in the content themselves not in embedded

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inline styles trouble on the mobile site

2012-05-11 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:26 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Maybe we're not talking about the same thing, then? I see plenty of inline styling throughout the page source of this page. E.g., table class=infobox vcard style=width: 25em; font-size: 88%; line-height: 1.5em I believe you