Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Quim Gil to Engineering Community Team!

2012-11-14 Thread Toni Hermoso Pulido
Nice seeing you here!

Welcome and happy birthday!

2012/11/13 Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org:
 I am very happy to announce that tomorrow is Quim Gil's first day in the
 Engineering Community Team of the Wikimedia Foundation.  His title is
 Technical Contributor Coordinator (IT Communications Manager) which
 means that he'll be reaching out to and nurturing our testers, coders,
 documenters, product managers, sysadmins, and other contributors to
 Wikimedia technologies like MediaWiki.  His blog entry about coming to
 WMF: https://flors.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/moving-up-in-the-freedom-stack/

 Quim is a contributor to Catalan Wikisource  Wikipedia and English
 Wikipedia (User:Qgil), and has helped Wikimedia's mobile team as a
 volunteer.  Most recently he's dug into statistical analysis of
 MediaWiki's coder community and the philosophical conundrum of
 RESOLVED:LATER.  You might also know him from his activity in the worlds
 of GNOME, Qt, and Maemo -- he's coming to us from Nokia.  If I try to
 detail all the consulting, event-running, volunteer recruiting, open
 source community management, writing, and projects he's done, I'll hit
 some kind of mailman limit so I won't try. :-)

 Quim lives in the Bay Area and will be working out of the San Francisco
 office while reporting to me remotely, which is kind of hilarious.  In
 the near future he'll be encouraging volunteer testers and running our
 Outreach Program for Women.

 And tomorrow is Quim's birthday!  So, happy birthday and welcome, Quim!



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Re: [Wikitech-l] On GitHub, rename wikimedia/mediawiki-core - wikimedia/mediawiki

2012-11-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
 The fact that mediawiki's repository is named mediawiki-core doesn't make
sense to me. The chief benefit provided by GitHub is its popularity and
visibility. We don't manage our code review or release process in GitHub anyway,
so I see no reason not to give the most weight to aesthetic / populistic
considerations. Let's make it github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki. Visibility helps!


This is not possible. Repos are the same name on the source
and destination.

-Chad

Not to mention that might be confusing down the road for someone looking to find
our copy of mediawiki-core on Github.

Thank you,
Derric Atzrott


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[Wikitech-l] Triaging Bugzilla reports: Greasemonkey scripts

2012-11-14 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

in case that you are a heavy user of bugzilla.wikimedia.org and triage /
comment on many reports:
I've shared my hackish Greasemonkey scripts (that's clientside
Javascript that runs in Firefox and some other browsers).

These scripts include stuff like
* provide one-click stock comments,
* embed several links (to Extension product homepage; 
  query tickets previously filed by the reporter)
* display email addresses of people and not just the name
* color people based on a manual list (e.g. green = I know 
  this person and don't need to look at this report)
* color MWExtensions based on a manual list (e.g. green = deployed)
etc.

Obviously the code could be improved but it works for me:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=wikimedia/bugzilla/triagescripts.git;a=summary

Feedback and contributions welcome.

andre
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Preparing concise, readable release notes for 1.21

2012-11-14 Thread jidanni
Another problem is we people doing oh, say monthly updates from git, and
hoping to get a summary of what to be aware of. The best I can do
currently is

git fetch origin
git diff master..origin/master \
RELEASE-NOTES-*|
tee /tmp/gitdiff$$|wdiff -d -3  /tmp/mediawikiDiff$$
${PAGER-less} /tmp/mediawikiDiff$$

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[Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Hi,

Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
native HTTPS ones, e.g.
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

The redirects are HTTP temporary redirects (302) for now. I'll soon
switch them to permanent (301), please do let me know if you see any
breakage in the meantime.

Regards,
Faidon

¹: 
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/03/native-https-support-enabled-for-all-wikimedia-foundation-wikis/
²: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/13429/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Enable Page View Statistic

2012-11-14 Thread Harsh Kothari
Hi Bawolff

Thanks a lot. That is very useful stuff. That is awesome links :)

Regards and Thanks again
Harsh
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Research Fellow, 
Physical Research Laboratory(PRL).
Ahmedabad.


On 14-Nov-2012, at 5:06 AM, bawolff wrote:

 
 On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Harsh Kothari
 harshkothari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All
 
 I found that on Gujarati Wikipedia there is no page view statistic. So
 please enable that features and also give us data of How many hits per day
 or per month on Gujarati Wikipedia.
 
 
 
 Also you may be interested in http://stats.grok.se/gu/top and
 http://stats.grok.se/gu/201012/%E0%AA%AE%E0%AB%81%E0%AA%96%E0%AA%AA%E0%AB%83%E0%AA%B7%E0%AB%8D%E0%AA%A0
 (The interface doesn't work well in non-popular languages, so you have
 to make the urls by hand
 http://stats.grok.se/gu/yearmonth/pagename (with gu being the
 language code). Additionally a couple clicks in to the link Chad gave
 you gets to this page: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryGU.htm
 which has a graph of page views over time near the bottom.
 
 There are raw page view stats available at
 http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/pagecounts-raw/ which one can
 filter/visualize/etc in whatever form is convenient (If you're into
 statistical stuff - requires some effort to get usable information).
 
 Hope that helps,
 -Bawolff

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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread Derric Atzrott
Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
native HTTPS ones, e.g.
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page


Does anyone know if EFF's HTTPS Everywhere extension is set up to redirect to
secure.wikimedia.org?  If so, someone might want to let them know that we've
made this change.

I'll volunteer to do so if no one else wishes to.

The redirects are HTTP temporary redirects (302) for now. I'll soon
switch them to permanent (301), please do let me know if you see any
breakage in the meantime.




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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread Chad
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Derric Atzrott
datzr...@alizeepathology.com wrote:
Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
native HTTPS ones, e.g.
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page


 Does anyone know if EFF's HTTPS Everywhere extension is set up to redirect to
 secure.wikimedia.org?  If so, someone might want to let them know that we've
 made this change.

 I'll volunteer to do so if no one else wishes to.


HTTPS Everywhere should've been updated some time ago to use
the native https urls.

-Chad

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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 01:48:27PM -0500, Derric Atzrott wrote:
 Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
 that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
 native HTTPS ones, e.g.
  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
 
 Does anyone know if EFF's HTTPS Everywhere extension is set up to redirect to
 secure.wikimedia.org?  If so, someone might want to let them know that we've
 made this change.
 
 I'll volunteer to do so if no one else wishes to.

HTTPS Everywhere is currently set up to redirect using the native HTTPS
support (http://en.wp - https://en.wp); it used to support redirects to
secure.wikimedia.org, but Roan Kattouw and Sam Reed updated it quite a
while ago. secure.wm.org never supported HTTP and secure.wm.org HTTPS
gets redirected by our redirects without any privacy loss, so there's
nothing to add to HTTPS Everywhere that I can see.

Thanks for the offer though.

Regards,
Faidon

PS. Fun fact: HTTPS Everywhere's git master already has rules for
Wikidata  Wikivoyage, thanks to the always awesome Reedy.

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[Wikitech-l] Research on newcomer experience - do we want to take part?

2012-11-14 Thread Marcin Cieslak

Hello,

Kevin Carillo[1] from University of Wellington is going to research
Newcomer experience and contributor behavior in FOSS communities[2]
So far Debian, GNOME, Gentoo, KDE, Mozilla, Ubuntu, NetBSD, OpenSUSE
will be taken into account, and FreeBSD recently joined[3] and 
there is still some possibility for other large FOSS projects to join.

I think it could fit nicely into our recent efforts directed
at newcomer experience after Git migration. And MediaWiki is
a bit different than above projects.

Are we interested
to include MediaWiki in that research?

As Kevin explains in his post he tried to avoid spamming mailing
lists to look for project interested, so I am doing this for him :-)

//Saper

[1] http://kevincarillo.org/about/, http://twitter.com/kevouze
[2] http://kevincarillo.org/survey-invitation/
[3] http://kevincarillo.org/2012/11/15/welcome-freebsd/


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Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

2012-11-14 Thread MZMcBride
Faidon Liambotis wrote:
 Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today
 that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective
 native HTTPS ones, e.g.
  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

This is great. Thank you for your work on this. :-)

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Research on newcomer experience - do we want to take part?

2012-11-14 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote:
 Hello,

 Kevin Carillo[1] from University of Wellington is going to research
 Newcomer experience and contributor behavior in FOSS communities[2]
 So far Debian, GNOME, Gentoo, KDE, Mozilla, Ubuntu, NetBSD, OpenSUSE
 will be taken into account, and FreeBSD recently joined[3] and
 there is still some possibility for other large FOSS projects to join.

 I think it could fit nicely into our recent efforts directed
 at newcomer experience after Git migration. And MediaWiki is
 a bit different than above projects.

 Are we interested
 to include MediaWiki in that research?

 As Kevin explains in his post he tried to avoid spamming mailing
 lists to look for project interested, so I am doing this for him :-)

 //Saper

I've worked with Kevin in preparation for his survey and later
promotion from the KDE-side quite a bit. This is not the kind of
research project that is of no value to the project taking part. I
expect the results to be very useful for KDE (and likely also the
other projects taking part).


Cheers
Lydia

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10963 Berlin
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Re: [Wikitech-l] editing channels - How was this edit made?

2012-11-14 Thread Platonides
On 13/11/12 23:42, MZMcBride wrote:
 Please stop top-posting. If you don't understand what that means, please
 read https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette.
 
 As I posted at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Revtagging, it's not
 clear to me why the built-in revision tagging system in MediaWiki is
 insufficient for your needs. It _feels_ like wheel-reinvention, but perhaps
 there's some key component I'm missing.

It should indeed be enough to use change_tag.

Also note that some parameters listed in the page are redundant for some
campaigns (such as adding the bot name).


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Re: [Wikitech-l] editing channels - How was this edit made?

2012-11-14 Thread Diederik van Liere

On 2012-11-14, at 18:33, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 13/11/12 23:42, MZMcBride wrote:
 Please stop top-posting. If you don't understand what that means, please
 read https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette.
 
 As I posted at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Revtagging, it's not
 clear to me why the built-in revision tagging system in MediaWiki is
 insufficient for your needs. It _feels_ like wheel-reinvention, but perhaps
 there's some key component I'm missing.
 
 It should indeed be enough to use change_tag.
 
 Also note that some parameters listed in the page are redundant for some
 campaigns (such as adding the bot name).


I think that the Analytics team would prefer either:
1) detect source of edit in the URL
Or 
2) have a hook activated after a successful edit and have the data send to the 
pixel service 

Having this data in a MySQL table poses a lot of challenges with respect of 
importing that data into the analytics cluster

Best
Diederik 
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[Wikitech-l] Looking for Bugs In All the RIGHT Places

2012-11-14 Thread Jim Laurino

Hello,

I attended a talk [1] by Elaine Weyuker [2] on Wed, 7 Nov 2012.

The talk, “Looking for Bugs In All the RIGHT Places”, discussed her work on  
predicting where bugs would be found in the next release of a program product.


She and her collaborators have created a well validated tool that predicts, in  
under a minute, the 20% of the source files of the product, frozen before the  
next release, that will contain about 80% of the faults that will be corrected  
in that release.


The tool is not a silver bullet, but it is useful; especially because it  
sometimes points attention to files that were not expected to have a lot of  
problems.


The tool has two parts, a prediction front end and a back end interface to the  
revision control system and bug tracker. As I remember it, the entire system  
consisted of under 800 lines of python and under 3000 lines of C++. Using it  
would require adding a new back end.


I thought that this tool might be useful in mediawiki development. She was  
amenable to helping get it working if there was interest.


[1]http://www.ece.udel.edu/spotlight/WeyukerDLS.php

[2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Weyuker

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Looking for Bugs In All the RIGHT Places

2012-11-14 Thread Mark Holmquist

I thought that this tool might be useful in mediawiki development. She
was amenable to helping get it working if there was interest.


Where, pray tell, is the software? :)

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