Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
from the FOSDEM ML: Should we grab one of these slots? Dear All, FOSDEM is nearing and it is promising to become awesome again. Like last year, we will provide two 'community meeting rooms' (formerly called BoF rooms). The concept is simple: any project/community can reserve a timeslot (15 minutes to an hour), during which they have the room just for them. It is meant for ad-hoc discussions, meet-ups or brainstorms. It is not a replacement for a devroom and it certainly is not meant for talks, so there will deliberately not be a projector. The rooms are cosy and small with around 30ish seats. Reservation can only be done on site and *during FOSDEM*. The reservation sheets are at the infodesk in the H building. The rooms are not far from that infodesk. Reservations are on a first-come, first-serve basis. See you soon, Tias Sent from my iPhone On 28-jan.-2013, at 23:50, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: If you bring a good jacket, the street outside is fine for chats. And remember to add with beer in every sentence of this paragraph. :) Warm jacket and cold beer it is then. :) What about staying around on Saturday at 18h, after the sessions? +1. fwiw my session is on Sunday at 15:35 (Ferrer - Lightning sessions) and I will stay in Brussels on Sunday night, with free agenda so far. I am also there on Sunday night, no plans so far. Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org The following manual seems to be the most actively maintained guide for getting MediaWiki installed on Windows: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows If you run into any problems, I'd suggest adding them to the manual along with any resolutions you or others come up with. Good luck! I'm not sure he actually wants to run it on Windows. He may just need SSO with Active Directory. https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=mediawiki+active+directory If that's the case, the LDAP extension works for that: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication - Ryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.
+correct content-type this time ;) Note this has already been merged, but still worth mention for visibility. On 2/1/13 12:10 PM, Michael Dale wrote: We are about to merge in support for audio derivatives to Timed Media Handler (TMH). The big value here, I think is encoding to AAC or MP3 and adding a /listen to this article/ feature to the mobile app. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/39363/ This can really help with improving accessibility of Wiktionary pronunciation media files as well. Also AAC / m4v ingestion, could make audio recordings a lot easier to import into the site, i.e a record a reading of this article mobile app feature #2 ;) There are already thousands of spoken articles, with some promotion their could probably be a lot be more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Spoken_articles The software patent situation for mp3 is sad, considering how long the mp3 format has been around: http://www.tunequest.org/a-big-list-of-mp3-patents/20070226/ I think AAC is a similar situation, encoder wise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding#Licensing_and_patents But fundamentally Wikimedia is not distributing these encoders and there are no royalties for media distribution. Likewise we are not shipping decoders ( the decoders are in browser or the mobile OS ) I don't know why Wikimedia's commitment to being accessible in royalty free formats, somehow also precludes making content accessible for folks on platforms that ~don't~ decode royalty free formats. But hopefully we can change that over time. Not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I hope we could come out of this thread with rough consensus to enable these formats to help increase the reach of audio works. peace, --michael ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
I grabbed community/BOF room 1 (h3227) tomorrow @ 12h for a meetup Sent from my iPhone On 2-feb.-2013, at 13:12, Finne Boonen hen...@gmail.com wrote: from the FOSDEM ML: Should we grab one of these slots? Dear All, FOSDEM is nearing and it is promising to become awesome again. Like last year, we will provide two 'community meeting rooms' (formerly called BoF rooms). The concept is simple: any project/community can reserve a timeslot (15 minutes to an hour), during which they have the room just for them. It is meant for ad-hoc discussions, meet-ups or brainstorms. It is not a replacement for a devroom and it certainly is not meant for talks, so there will deliberately not be a projector. The rooms are cosy and small with around 30ish seats. Reservation can only be done on site and *during FOSDEM*. The reservation sheets are at the infodesk in the H building. The rooms are not far from that infodesk. Reservations are on a first-come, first-serve basis. See you soon, Tias Sent from my iPhone On 28-jan.-2013, at 23:50, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: If you bring a good jacket, the street outside is fine for chats. And remember to add with beer in every sentence of this paragraph. :) Warm jacket and cold beer it is then. :) What about staying around on Saturday at 18h, after the sessions? +1. fwiw my session is on Sunday at 15:35 (Ferrer - Lightning sessions) and I will stay in Brussels on Sunday night, with free agenda so far. I am also there on Sunday night, no plans so far. Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Integrating MediaWiki into MS SBS
Hi, We're using this at another organization. But the servers are Debian-based. But is cool to have the same password on nearly everything. If you need it, I maybe could extract you the relevant information from this config. Try to get your sysadmin to let you operate on a VM possibly with Linux, just as a test. Then nothing influences the original installation and you're independent. Marco On 02/02/2013 03:42 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Jay Ashworthj...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Andreescudandree...@wikimedia.org The following manual seems to be the most actively maintained guide for getting MediaWiki installed on Windows: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows If you run into any problems, I'd suggest adding them to the manual along with any resolutions you or others come up with. Good luck! I'm not sure he actually wants to run it on Windows. He may just need SSO with Active Directory. https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=mediawiki+active+directory If that's the case, the LDAP extension works for that: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication - Ryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
Thanks for making that happen, Finne! I'll be there if my health plays nice. Directions: walk into the hallway at H2214, towards the restrooms, then go up the stairs. Cheers! -- Siebrand On 2-feb.-2013, at 13:12, Finne Boonen hen...@gmail.com wrote: from the FOSDEM ML: Should we grab one of these slots? Dear All, FOSDEM is nearing and it is promising to become awesome again. Like last year, we will provide two 'community meeting rooms' (formerly called BoF rooms). The concept is simple: any project/community can reserve a timeslot (15 minutes to an hour), during which they have the room just for them. It is meant for ad-hoc discussions, meet-ups or brainstorms. It is not a replacement for a devroom and it certainly is not meant for talks, so there will deliberately not be a projector. The rooms are cosy and small with around 30ish seats. Reservation can only be done on site and *during FOSDEM*. The reservation sheets are at the infodesk in the H building. The rooms are not far from that infodesk. Reservations are on a first-come, first-serve basis. See you soon, Tias Sent from my iPhone On 28-jan.-2013, at 23:50, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: If you bring a good jacket, the street outside is fine for chats. And remember to add with beer in every sentence of this paragraph. :) Warm jacket and cold beer it is then. :) What about staying around on Saturday at 18h, after the sessions? +1. fwiw my session is on Sunday at 15:35 (Ferrer - Lightning sessions) and I will stay in Brussels on Sunday night, with free agenda so far. I am also there on Sunday night, no plans so far. Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] API data push/pull guidelines
Hello, There is a lack of guidelines regarding the rate at the mediawiki API may be used. Specifically for the enwiki and commons api (if it doesn't matter, please say so): For bots: Are simultaneous uploads permitted? E.g. uploading 3 20MB files simultaneously to the commons on a 1Gbit/s line. What is the max rate permitted? I was recommended at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44584 to post to this mailing list. -Small ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] API data push/pull guidelines
There is a page about the etiquette of using the API. [1] In short, your bot should ideally make requests in a series (not multiple requests in parallel) and use maxlag=5. But the bug you referred to already includes this link, and I don't think there are better guidelines. [1]: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Etiquette Petr Onderka [[en:User:Svick]] On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Small M smallma...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, There is a lack of guidelines regarding the rate at the mediawiki API may be used. Specifically for the enwiki and commons api (if it doesn't matter, please say so): For bots: Are simultaneous uploads permitted? E.g. uploading 3 20MB files simultaneously to the commons on a 1Gbit/s line. What is the max rate permitted? I was recommended at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44584 to post to this mailing list. -Small ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Finne Boonen hen...@gmail.com wrote: I grabbed community/BOF room 1 (h3227) tomorrow @ 12h for a meetup See you there. Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews
I don't like it's cryptic nature. Someone looking at the headers sent to his browser would be very confused about what's the point of «X-MF-Mode: b». Instead something like this would be much more descriptive: X-Mobile-Mode: stable X-Mobile-Request: secondary But that also means sending more bytes through the wire :S ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.
Your system does not seem to support OGG audio format. Downloading this file without ogg support may need a significant amount of space and bandwith. Downloading article.wav ... 20% ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews
On Saturday, February 2, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Platonides wrote: I don't like it's cryptic nature. Someone looking at the headers sent to his browser would be very confused about what's the point of «X-MF-Mode: b». Instead something like this would be much more descriptive: X-Mobile-Mode: stable X-Mobile-Request: secondary But that also means sending more bytes through the wire :S Well, you can (and should) drop the 'X-' :-) See http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648: Deprecating the X- Prefix and Similar Constructs in Application Protocols -- Ori Livneh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
What about staying around on Saturday at 18h, after the sessions? I'm at Fosdem and would love to meet you all in person. Would it makes sense to meet outside the community dev room at 18:00 today Saturday? Julien ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.
On Feb 2, 2013 1:45 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Your system does not seem to support OGG audio format. Downloading this file without ogg support may need a significant amount of space and bandwith. Downloading article.wav ... 20% Something tells me that won't be feasible for video. :) -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews
Thanks Ori, I was not aware of this D Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-02, at 16:55, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Saturday, February 2, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Platonides wrote: I don't like it's cryptic nature. Someone looking at the headers sent to his browser would be very confused about what's the point of «X-MF-Mode: b». Instead something like this would be much more descriptive: X-Mobile-Mode: stable X-Mobile-Request: secondary But that also means sending more bytes through the wire :S Well, you can (and should) drop the 'X-' :-) See http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648: Deprecating the X- Prefix and Similar Constructs in Application Protocols -- Ori Livneh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikivideo-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.
On 2/1/13 12:10 PM, Michael Dale wrote: The software patent situation for mp3 is sad, considering how long the mp3 format has been around: http://www.tunequest.org/a-big-list-of-mp3-patents/20070226/ [...] But fundamentally Wikimedia is not distributing these encoders and there are no royalties for media distribution. Likewise we are not shipping decoders (the decoders are in browser or the mobile OS ) The USPTO is holding a comment period and a couple meetings on software patents. The meetings are both 9am – noon local time. Both require an RSVP by email by this Monday the 4th. Stanford (Silicon Valley) is Tuesday 2013-02-12 Stanford University Paul Brest Hall 555 Salvatierra Walk, Stanford, CA NYC (New York City) is Wednesday 2013-02-27 New York University Henry Kaufman Management Center Faculty Lounge Room 11-185 44 West 4th St. New York, NY 10012 http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20130104012214868 -Jeremy ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Going to FOSDEM
18:00 Saturday is past tense, right? Željko On Saturday, February 2, 2013, Julien Dorra wrote: What about staying around on Saturday at 18h, after the sessions? I'm at Fosdem and would love to meet you all in person. Would it makes sense to meet outside the community dev room at 18:00 today Saturday? Julien ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org javascript:; https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Sent from my ZX Spectrum ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: RFC: Introducing two new HTTP headers to track mobile pageviews
Huh! News to me as well. I definitely agree with that decision. Thanks, Ori! I've already written the Varnish code for setting X-MF-Mode so it can be captured by varnishncsa. Is there agreement to switch to Mobile-Mode, or at least, MF-Mode? Looking especially to hear from Arthur and Matt. -- David Schoonover d...@wikimedia.org On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Diederik van Liere dvanli...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Thanks Ori, I was not aware of this D Sent from my iPhone On 2013-02-02, at 16:55, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Saturday, February 2, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Platonides wrote: I don't like it's cryptic nature. Someone looking at the headers sent to his browser would be very confused about what's the point of «X-MF-Mode: b». Instead something like this would be much more descriptive: X-Mobile-Mode: stable X-Mobile-Request: secondary But that also means sending more bytes through the wire :S Well, you can (and should) drop the 'X-' :-) See http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648: Deprecating the X- Prefix and Similar Constructs in Application Protocols -- Ori Livneh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Audio derivatives, turning on MP3/AAC mobile app feature request.
Just to be sure that I'm reading this right - nothing actually changed yet. We still are a free-formats-only shop for A/V. Right? -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
