Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

Hi, On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > > As it stands we don't really summarize changes very well, which is a > prerequisite for telling people about changes. Occasionally changes > make it to Tech/news, but that seems sporadic. > I think the best way forward would be to mor

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

Hoi, Let us be honest indeed. The others are not heard when they scream and shout in their little corner of the world.. Thanks, Gerard On 5 December 2013 23:41, Happy Melon wrote: > On 5 December 2013 23:36, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > > > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 23:00:04 +0100, Dan Garry >

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

Correct, I see how my words can be taken several ways. Right now VE is a very unstable, bug filled, obnoxious elephant. Given enough time, testing, and maturity it as a lot of promise. Right now its like trying to use a rocket like http://cdn.instructables.com/F9Y/2ONP/F4TLKVHS/F9Y2ONPF4TLKVHS.LAR

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

Bad idea [to package/install],… Is what I believe beta was saying Tyler. On Friday, December 6, 2013, Tyler Romeo wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM, John > > wrote: > > > VE is a BAD idea, its full of holes and bugs > > > Those are two separate concepts. Just because something has bugs doe

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM, John wrote: > VE is a BAD idea, its full of holes and bugs Those are two separate concepts. Just because something has bugs does not make the software itself a bad idea. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.22.0rc3 ready for download

VE is a BAD idea, its full of holes and bugs On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:32 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 3 December 2013 21:26, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > > We've put together RC3 for 1.22.0. Please test the tarball and report > > any bugs you find on Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On 5 December 2013 23:36, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 23:00:04 +0100, Dan Garry > wrote: > > How about getting this stuff included in the Signpost? I think that's a >> good medium for it. >> > > Signpost is English-specific, Wikipedia-specific and > English-Wikipedia-specifi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 23:00:04 +0100, Dan Garry wrote: How about getting this stuff included in the Signpost? I think that's a good medium for it. Signpost is English-specific, Wikipedia-specific and English-Wikipedia-specific. -- Matma Rex ___ Wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On 12/05/2013 01:22 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > On 12/5/13, Risker wrote: >> Some streamlining of communication processes, and giving consideration to a >> quick and straightforward process to reach information that can be done >> directly from any WMF wiki, would be a really significant outreach to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Dan Garry wrote: > How about getting this stuff included in the Signpost? I think that's a > good medium for it. > > There used to be a "Technology report" but I've not seen it for a while... > > Dan > BRION, they called it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

How about getting this stuff included in the Signpost? I think that's a good medium for it. There used to be a "Technology report" but I've not seen it for a while... Dan On 5 December 2013 10:28, Alex Brollo wrote: > Users are very confused and worried any time a new version of wiki software

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

Le Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:08:15 +0100, Bartosz Dziewoński a écrit: The sites are updated weekly, sometimes with additional deployments inbetween the scheduled ones. Constant sitenotice would be a bad idea. I suggest you subscribe to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News , which is an also

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On 12/5/13, Risker wrote: > On 5 December 2013 13:08, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > >> The sites are updated weekly, sometimes with additional deployments >> inbetween the scheduled ones. Constant sitenotice would be a bad idea. >> >> I suggest you subscribe to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Redirecting obsolete "mobile." and "wap." domains

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > This morning Faidon has deployed a > patch< > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/99394/1/templates/varnish/mobile-frontend.inc.vcl.erb > >to > redirect wap.and mobile. subdomains (see also this > patch

Re: [Wikitech-l] Redirecting obsolete "mobile." and "wap." domains

From the apps team: We don't use either of those, so don't worry about the apps when killing them :) -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Redirecting obsolete "mobile." and "wap." domains

This morning Faidon has deployed a patchto redirect wap.and mobile. subdomains (see also this patch for the apache side handling), but later due to some cencerns the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On 12/05/2013 10:08 AM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > I suggest you subscribe to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News > , which is an also weekly newsletter summarising new features and > important fixed bugs every week, as well as providing links to the > detailed change logs. Tech News, yeah!

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

>> The sites are updated weekly, sometimes with additional deployments >> inbetween the scheduled ones. Constant sitenotice would be a bad idea. >> >> I suggest you subscribe to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News , >> I suggest that MediaWiki uses Twitter to announce new MediaWiki versions

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

> On 5 December 2013 13:08, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > > > The sites are updated weekly, sometimes with additional deployments > > inbetween the scheduled ones. Constant sitenotice would be a bad idea. > > > > I suggest you subscribe to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News , > > which is a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On 5 December 2013 13:08, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > The sites are updated weekly, sometimes with additional deployments > inbetween the scheduled ones. Constant sitenotice would be a bad idea. > > I suggest you subscribe to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News , > which is an also weekly n

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

The sites are updated weekly, sometimes with additional deployments inbetween the scheduled ones. Constant sitenotice would be a bad idea. I suggest you subscribe to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News , which is an also weekly newsletter summarising new features and important fixed bugs

Re: [Wikitech-l] Uninstalling hooks for tests?

Yes, I needed to turn off visual editor because it was altering the section header 'edit' text which was causing parser tests to fail. I fixed it like this: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84436 --scott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Uninstalling hooks for tests?

Le 05/12/13 15:59, Antoine Musso a écrit : > There is a GetHumanTimestamp() that let you override the method > behaviour which is used by the cldr extension. Was referring to GetHumanTimestamp *hook*. Sorry. -- Antoine "hashar" Musso ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Uninstalling hooks for tests?

Le 05/12/13 14:49, Marcin Cieslak a écrit : > I am not very happy about this but we came to the case > where it might be useful to explicitly uninstall some > hook(s) for out unit tests. > > You might want to checkout MediaWikiTestCase::uninstallHook > > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/99349/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Uninstalling hooks for tests?

Hey, I am not very happy about this but we came to the case > where it might be useful to explicitly uninstall some > hook(s) for out unit tests. > > You might want to checkout MediaWikiTestCase:: > uninstallHook > > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/99349/ > > I am not happy about blurring diffe

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

Le 05/12/13 11:28, Alex Brollo a écrit : > Users are very confused and worried any time a new version of wiki software > is launched and tested, and some major or minor bug comes invariably out. > > A clear message using central sitenotice, with links to doc pages listing > the changes at differe

[Wikitech-l] Uninstalling hooks for tests?

I am not very happy about this but we came to the case where it might be useful to explicitly uninstall some hook(s) for out unit tests. You might want to checkout MediaWikiTestCase::uninstallHook https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/99349/ I am not happy about blurring differences between unit a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

Sitenotice would be an exaggeration. Google and Facebook and millions of other sites update their software, probably even more frequently than we do, and without any big notifications to all users every week. People who consider themselves capable of testing new features should just sign up to thi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 11:28 +0100, Alex Brollo wrote: > Users are very confused and worried any time a new version of wiki software > is launched and tested, and some major or minor bug comes invariably out. So a constant "Be confused and worried, every Thursday!" site notice on Wikipedias (Tuesda

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On 05.12.2013. 11:37, Petr Bena wrote: I disagree that sitenotices are stupid or disruptive. It's a good way to inform users about really important stuff, which unfortunatelly is sometimes misused for something irrelevant. However this way everyone can be informed when needed and that's good. Usi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

I disagree that sitenotices are stupid or disruptive. It's a good way to inform users about really important stuff, which unfortunatelly is sometimes misused for something irrelevant. However this way everyone can be informed when needed and that's good. Using this for update information is, of cou

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

I disagree with Alex, usually people don't give a damn about new deployments. Just geeks and technical people (poeple who work on templates, bots, etc.) care about these stuff Best On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > Hi, > > What about subscribing to this list instead? I think t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

Hi, What about subscribing to this list instead? I think that users who want to see updates, should use relevant information channels, rather than forcing everyone to see notices they may not be interested in. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Alex Brollo wrote: > Users are very confused and worr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Alex Brollo wrote: > Users are very confused and worried any time a new version of wiki software > is launched and tested, and some major or minor bug comes invariably out. > > A clear message using central sitenotice, with links to doc pages listing > the changes

[Wikitech-l] Please use sitenotice when a new version of software is deployed

Users are very confused and worried any time a new version of wiki software is launched and tested, and some major or minor bug comes invariably out. A clear message using central sitenotice, with links to doc pages listing the changes at different levels of detail and to their talk pages to disc