Re: [Wikitech-l] Text-to-speech extension?

[Andre Klapper]

On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 08:17 +0200, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Hoi,
> Are screen readers supported ? But do they understand what is the cruft
> that is on a page, the kind of cruft that you do not want to get read out
> to you?

Depends on how you define "supported". :)
For things that don't work, there is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org and
the keyword "accessibility".
Open tickets:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=accessibility&resolution=---

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Text-to-speech extension?

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Are screen readers supported ? But do they understand what is the cruft
that is on a page, the kind of cruft that you do not want to get read out
to you?
Thanks,
 GerardM


On 29 April 2014 08:03, Benjamin Lees  wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Ilias Koumoundouros <
> ilias.k...@freemail.gr
> > wrote:
>
> > So I was wondering whether there is a text-to-speech extension for
> > Mediawiki
> >
> >
> What advantages would this offer over a screen reader?
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Text-to-speech extension?

[Benjamin Lees]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Ilias Koumoundouros  wrote:

> So I was wondering whether there is a text-to-speech extension for
> Mediawiki
>
>
What advantages would this offer over a screen reader?
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Re: [Wikitech-l] need to download wikipedia data

[Andre Klapper]

Hi,

On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 10:58 +0530, Imran Rasheed wrote:
> I need to download wikipedia data for some text retrieval and evaluation
> for my academic research. So I need to know how to download the content of
> the following wikipedia link.
> 
> *http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/ *
> 
> I need data in the form of '*text*' files. I already tried KIVIX software
> but it's not fulfill my conditions.

Could you please explain why you repost this question after having
received numerous answers already a few days ago and after acknowledging
that in
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-April/076190.html ?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] New wikibugs bot

[Andre Klapper]

On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 22:45 +0200, Merlijn van Deen wrote:
> As the original wikibugs bot did not come back online today, the tasks of
> wikibugs have now fully been taken over by a python re-implementation of
> the same bot, running on Tool Labs.
> 
> A few improvements over the old bot:
> 
>  - running on Tool Labs instead of the WMF mail server, so
> community-maintainable,
>  - messages to multiple channels based on bug properties (e.g. product and
> component)
>  - several minor improvements:
>-> shows changes instead of the new situation
>-> adds first line-or-so of a comment,
>-> shows product and component for each message,
>-> better URLs (with anchor to the specific comment),
>-> real names are now *always* used (they are retrieved from BZ if the
> mail does not list them).

This is lovely and fixes a lot of issues in the old wikibugs.

Thanks so much!

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[Wikitech-l] need to download wikipedia data

[Imran Rasheed]

Dear All,
   Best regard of the day

I need to download wikipedia data for some text retrieval and evaluation
for my academic research. So I need to know how to download the content of
the following wikipedia link.

*http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/ *

I need data in the form of '*text*' files. I already tried KIVIX software
but it's not fulfill my conditions.

Kindly give me the best suitable solutions



Warm Regards

*Indian School of Mines*
*Imran Rasheed*
*(**Research Scholar**)*
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Unit testing for MediaWiki projects

[Erik Moeller]

As a reminder, this is happening tomorrow at 12 PM PDT / 19:00 UTC
tomorrow (Tuesday):

https://plus.google.com/events/cae6ng1m9o4mhdbpo10u5v05bvg

We're going to talk about various strategies for automated testing and
improvements to our continuous integration infrastructure. Antoine
'hashar' Musso has offered to give an overview, roughly along these
lines:

- quick overview of the infrastructure (Zuul/Jenkins, the slaves, the
myriad of jobs and how they are maintained).

- MediaWiki testing frameworks and tools (phpunit, qunit, browser
tests, beta cluster)

- current concerns in what we test, which should provide enough
materials for the open discussion part:

 - lack of cross repositories tests and how to handle dependencies
 - repositories that are barely tested yet critical
 - mw/core tests mixing unit and integration tests
 - lack of mocking
 - very thin code coverage

This will be followed by an open conversation about improvement
strategies. The session is scheduled to take about an hour total.

Hope to see you there :)

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[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Typography refresh, now that dust has settled

[Steven Walling]

FYI, if you're interested in continuing to talk about this and related
issues, I strongly encourage Wikitech subscribers to join the Design list.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Steven Walling 
Date: Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM
Subject: Typography refresh, now that dust has settled
To: "A list for the design team." 


Hi everyone,

For curious, I wanted to share a quick update on the typography refresh.
The following four recent pieces of news that should be of interest...

1). The French Wikipedia community closed their vote on most aspects of the
new design (color, size, new headers, etc.) and it was very much in favor
of keeping the new design in all aspects.[a]

 2). Spanish Wikipedians also closed their vote, which was more of a simple
yes/no on whether to revert. This was also in favor of keeping the new
design.[b]

3). Jon Robson has put up a patch to allow LESS styles to be set
per-language.[c] This means that many local site hacks, like Japanese
Wikipedia removing the serif headers or Farsi Wikipedia having to set
completely different Farsi-friendly fonts, will potentially no longer be
necessary. Review and testing is needed!

4). For some time now MediaWiki.org and the test replica of English
Wikipedia (en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org) have been using a new proposed
body font stack by Erwin Dokter. This puts Nimbus Sans L first, and
restores the other body font settings like Helvetica Neue for Mac users,
Arial for all Windows users etc. Please try it out, especially if you're on
Windows or Linux. We'd like to put this in Vector/core at some point, if we
can make sure it works.

Thanks!

a.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Prise_de_d%C3%A9cision/Affichage_par_d%C3%A9faut
b.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votaciones/2014/Sobre_la_actualizaci%C3%B3n_tipogr%C3%A1fica#No
c. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/125760/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Text-to-speech extension?

[Arcane 21]

I'm not disabled myself, but I do see the benefits in such a venture, and 
assuming there is text-to-speech program with a MediaWiki friendly API (or at 
least can hook into MediaWiki fairly well) that could be used as a backend, I 
would think this would not only be possible, but a great idea.

> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:49:51 +0200
> From: ilias.k...@freemail.gr
> To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] Text-to-speech extension?
> 
> Hello, and thank you for your work,
> 
> I was looking at the Librivox project today and I thought that it'd be
> great to have voice support in Mediawiki, to aid people with sight
> impairments or disabilities.
> So I was wondering whether there is a text-to-speech extension for
> Mediawiki, or if there could be some other means of offering wiki pages
> in audio form.
> 
> Thanks for your time as well,
> Ilias K.
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[Wikitech-l] Text-to-speech extension?

[Ilias Koumoundouros]

Hello, and thank you for your work,

I was looking at the Librivox project today and I thought that it'd be
great to have voice support in Mediawiki, to aid people with sight
impairments or disabilities.
So I was wondering whether there is a text-to-speech extension for
Mediawiki, or if there could be some other means of offering wiki pages
in audio form.

Thanks for your time as well,
Ilias K.

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[Wikitech-l] Gerrit vs Phabricator

[Quim Gil]

Phabricator as our future code contribution and review tool?

This possibility has implications for current and new code contributors, as
well as local testing and continuous integration.

We welcome more feedback at

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Phabricator

Identify features Gerrit users would miss in Phabricator
http://fab.wmflabs.org/T47

and subtasks such as

Find way to use Differential with plain git (i.e.: without requiring arc)
http://fab.wmflabs.org/T207




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Re: [Wikitech-l] OpenHistoricalMaps (was: GSoC and OPW participants announced)

[Tomasz Finc]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Antoine Musso  wrote:
> Le 21/04/2014 22:00, Quim Gil a écrit :
>> Jaime Lyn Schatz
>> OpenHistoricalMaps and Wikimaps
>
> OpenHistoricalMaps is a totally crazy project.  The idea is to attach to
> each point in the OSM database two new keys start_date and end_date.
>
> Potentially that means folks will be able to create maps of a city as it
> was at any given point in time and maybe one day let us generate
> animation of cities growing or road network expanding over time.   That
> is surely going to take a massive effort but will definitely be amazing
> to better understand the live we live in.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map
>
> --
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [teampractices] RfC on Product Management Tools and Development Toolchain

[Guillaume Paumier]

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Andre Klapper  wrote:
>
> as previously announced [1], we've been facilitating a collective review
> of Wikimedia's current product management tools and development
> toolchain.

>   https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Phabricator

The initial deadline for the RFC was yesterday. We now have a choice
to make between closing the RFC, or leaving it open for another week
to get more input. Imho it wouldn't hurt to extend the deadline by a
week, but if you disagree, please comment on the talk page:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Phabricator#Shouldn.27t_we_close_this.3F

Thanks!

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Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor template editing interface

[James Forrester]

On 28 April 2014 01:55, S Page  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Trevor Parscal  >wrote:
>
> > I don't quite understand your question [linking templatedata easily to
> > Wikidata], sorry. I'm talking about adding fields to TemplateData which
> > VisualEditor uses to build a user interface around templates.
> TemplateData
> > is defined on-wiki as a JSON blob.
> >
>
> It confused me too at first, since Wikidata is envisioned as a way to
> supply  data to infobox templates.  Maybe call it a TemplateSpec.
>

​Yeah, there's no neat way in TemplateData to tie parameters to Wikidata
items​ or properties, which might be a useful improvement. Something to
think about.



> I was also confused by its [Manage template documentation] button, I
> thought at first clicking it would let you edit the /doc subpage of a
> template,


​Yeah; we could improve this language to make it more obvious. OTOH there's
likely to be some big opportunities available when the outcome of the
"associated
namespaces"​
RfC lands, letting us have a "Data" and "Documentation" tab for each
template – an improvement now should mesh with that outcome.



> but it brings up the interface for editing the 
> block. The block does  replace a lot of hand-written template
> documentation; might  be internationalized some day?
>

​The data definition JSON blob supports multiple languages per value for
the appropriate values, but not ​the GUI editor yet – that's the next thing
we want to add to it.



> It's a really cool feature! It saves me opening "Templates used on this
> page" to open a template in a new tab just to remind me of its parameters.
>

​Thanks. :-)

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[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2014.04 release

[Kartik Mistry]

Hello all,

I would like to announce the release of MediaWiki Language Extension
Bundle 2014.04. This bundle is compatible with MediaWiki 1.22.6 and
MediaWiki 1.21.9 releases.

* Download: 
https://translatewiki.net/mleb/MediaWikiLanguageExtensionBundle-2014.04.tar.bz2
* sha256sum: f20631d2629e0cf80df8ca022e6eec4d6d784e0cd39799f9fd46f338f4a7381a

Quick links:
* Installation instructions are at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MLEB
* Announcements of new releases will be posted to a mailing list:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n
* Report bugs to: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org
* Talk with us at: #mediawiki-i18n @ Freenode

Release notes for each extension are below.

-- Kartik Mistry

== Babel, CleanChanges and CLDR ==
* Only localisation updates.

== LocalisationUpdate ==
* Make sure that older MediaWiki versions also get updates for core messages.

== Translate ==
=== Noteworthy changes ===
* Added ElasticSearch support for translation memory and translation search.
* Set JSON message format as default for MediaWiki extensions.
* Add tracking (mw.track) for primary events: translation and proofread.
* Removed SingleFileBasedMessageGroup.
* Removed classes used for supporting the old MediaWiki core format
and updated related maintenance scripts.
* Localisation updates.

== UniversalLanguageSelector ==
=== Noteworthy changes ===
* Allow always logging tofu detection in EventLogging.
* Bug 62981: Fixed RTL positioning for compact interlanguage links.
* Localize the number in the "more languages" message in the compact
links feature.
* Bug 60815: Set Arabic as the writing system for Ottoman Turkish (ota).
* Bug 63718: Allow overriding the header styles from typography refresh.
* Add loading of messages using $wgMessagesDirs

=== Input Methods ===
* Added Batak input method.
* Fixed the Odia Lekhani method, as well as the InScript methods for
Hindi, Odia and Malayalam.

Thanks!

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[Wikitech-l] OpenHistoricalMaps (was: GSoC and OPW participants announced)

[Antoine Musso]

Le 21/04/2014 22:00, Quim Gil a écrit :
> Jaime Lyn Schatz
> OpenHistoricalMaps and Wikimaps

OpenHistoricalMaps is a totally crazy project.  The idea is to attach to
each point in the OSM database two new keys start_date and end_date.

Potentially that means folks will be able to create maps of a city as it
was at any given point in time and maybe one day let us generate
animation of cities growing or road network expanding over time.   That
is surely going to take a massive effort but will definitely be amazing
to better understand the live we live in.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map

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Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor template editing interface

[S Page]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Trevor Parscal wrote:

> I don't quite understand your question [linking templatedata easily to
> Wikidata], sorry. I'm talking about adding fields to TemplateData which
> VisualEditor uses to build a user interface around templates. TemplateData
> is defined on-wiki as a JSON blob.
>

It confused me too at first, since Wikidata is envisioned as a way to
supply  data to infobox templates.  Maybe call it a TemplateSpec.

I was also confused by its [Manage template documentation] button, I
thought at first clicking it would let you edit the /doc subpage of a
template, but it brings up the interface for editing the 
block. The block does  replace a lot of hand-written template
documentation; might  be internationalized some day?

It's a really cool feature! It saves me opening "Templates used on this
page" to open a template in a new tab just to remind me of its parameters.

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