Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of Related Pages feature

2016-04-03 Thread MZMcBride
Moushira Elamrawy wrote: >Related pages feature has been in beta for over two months now, the >future of the feature depends on our discussions. While we currently >don't have a clear process for deciding collaboratively on an all >languages product, Alsee and the reading team have put together

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-03 Thread Jonathan Morgan
+1 to everything Ori and Risker said (obviously). Pine: I try not to mess with the Teahouse :) I have a hard enough time convincing the Hosts that it's A Good Thing that threads on the Q board are posted in reverse-chronological order. If I lobbied hard for an Teahouse Emoji pilot, I would

Re: [Wikitech-l] productivity of mediawiki developers

2016-04-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
For statistics, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Development_statistics . As a starting point to look into what you call "productivity", I usually use: * https://www.openhub.net/orgs/wikimedia * http://koti.kapsi.fi/~federico/crstats/core.txt +

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-03 Thread Niklas Laxström
2016-04-03 11:29 GMT+03:00 Jon Robson : > The Translate tag has always seemed like a hack that I've never quite > understood. I am happy to direct to our documentation [1] anyone who asks, or explain if the documentation is not sufficient. The word hack can have both

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-03 Thread Ariel Glenn WMF
Don't laugh, but I actually looked for the like button after reading this post (too much time on Twitter). I would like to see more of these initiatives, whatever form they might take. We have something that made a difference, let's build on that. Ariel On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Risker

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-03 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Adam Wight wrote: > On Apr 3, 2016 1:30 AM, "Jon Robson" wrote: >> The Translate tag has always seemed like a hack that I've never quite > understood. > > +1. Couldn't we use Parsoid data tags to identify paragraphs? It

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-03 Thread Adam Wight
On Apr 3, 2016 1:30 AM, "Jon Robson" wrote: > The Translate tag has always seemed like a hack that I've never quite understood. +1. Couldn't we use Parsoid data tags to identify paragraphs? It seems like that would lend itself to an incremental migration. -Adam

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-03 Thread Risker
I sympathize with your concern, Ori. I suspect, however, that it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of why the Teahouse works when other processes (several of which have included cute symbols) have been less effective. And the reason is: the Teahouse is explicitly designed for having

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-03 Thread Jon Robson
I'm not too aware of the history, but is there good reason we do not have en.mediawiki.org etc? The Translate tag has always seemed like a hack that I've never quite understood. The translate tag causes lots of issues on mobile (impacting usability and performance) due to not playing well with the

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-03 Thread Isarra Yos
Is there any way to just flag pages to not get translated? These tags are basically the main reason I've given up on documenting any of my extensions/skins. On 01/04/16 16:31, Brion Vibber wrote: Lots of pages on mediawiki.org are pretty much uneditable because they're strewn with spanning