Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor proxy with blinded tokens

I think pretty much anything is better than the current situation. I'd support this proposal. The timing is right too with the WMF vs NSA lawsuit just happening. On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Arlo Breault abrea...@wikimedia.org wrote: I share Risker’s concerns here and limiting the

Re: [Wikitech-l] changing edit summaries

is fixed and should not be able to be modified. This is one of the core principles that makes wikis work. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] changing edit summaries

the previous edit had a wrong edit summary, this is what I really did. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor relay

reasons. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Sidenote: I've just a few days ago been laid off. My last day at this job will be on Friday, at which point I will be re-subscribing to this list using the email address zellf...@zellfaze.org. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css blocked on Special:Login and Special:Preferences

site-wide CSS, not JS. This seems completely reasonable to me. I'd merge is personally. Is there any reason not to? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcement: Yuvi Panda joins Ops

Agreed! Congrats! Awesome Yuvi. Congratulations! :D On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: Woot! Way to go, Yuvi! D On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Mark Bergsma m...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, I'm very pleased to announce that as of this week,

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Marielle Volz joins Wikimedia as Software Developer

of making even relatively complex tasks like inserting citations more convenient in VE than in wikitext. Not going to lie, that sounds really cool. Can't wait to see that finished. Welcome Marielle. I wish you the best of times in everything you do here. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

to pull from the list of Tor nodes to get its list of users. I'll take a look at the TorBlock extension and the FlaggedRevs extension code and see what I can see. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor exit node rejects port 443 of WM, but it is disabled for editing

relays that block access to Wikimedia in their rejection policies usually allowed to edit Wikimedia projects? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

that is specifically hidden by Tor. The idea is to find a way to block individuals on Tor without having any information about those individuals that might be useful to someone trying to kill them (or at least identify their real world identity). Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

, but it would stop a lot of would-be-sockpuppeteers. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wrapping signatures with a span for discoverability

for things like Please note that I am being paid to edit by XYZ Inc. that come and go from month to month to be seen. This is one of my biggest concerns as well. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

in order to be issued a certificate in Nymble you had to complete a proof-of-work that took perhaps several hours of computation and was issued for a week, that might be a sufficient barrier to stop most socks, though definitely some more data needs gathered. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

in order to be issued a certificate in Nymble you had to complete a proof-of-work that took perhaps several hours of computation and was issued for a week, that might be a sufficient barrier to stop most socks, though definitely some more data needs gathered. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

this should be fairly trivial to put together I would imagine (though correct me if I am wrong). Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

users. I did respond to this to explain our concerns, which is what netted the GPG idea. Does anyone see any glaringly obvious problems with requiring an easily blockable and difficult to create proof of work to edit via Tor? Thank you, Derric Atzrott

[Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

to have their edits reviewed, or perhaps just wouldn't get autopatrolled status as quickly (if ever). There has got to be a better solution to the problem than just blocking all Tor users completely. Thank you, Derric Atzrott [1]: https://atlas.torproject.org/#details

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

of it, on this list. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

Alright, this is a long email, and it acts to basically summarise all of the discussions that have already happened on this topic. I'll be posting a copy of it to Mediawiki.org as well so that it will be easier to find out about what has already been proposed in the future. There is a policy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

in, with the NSA doing their thing, I feel we shouldn't be punishing those who care about their privacy. You don't need to have anything to hide to want to protect yourself. Thank you, Derric Atzrott (Also, and not to nitpick, Tor not TOR, please see https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#WhyCalledTor

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

in abuse (spam/trolling/vandalism). Might you have been talking about Bug #30716? [1] It happened in September of 2011. In May of 2012 the bug was re-opened and it hasn't yet been closed. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Tor and Anonymous Users (I know, we've had this discussion a million times)

away from a framework where IP addresses are our only means to block problematic editors and towards a framework where we can do so via other less intrusive means. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm leaving the Wikimedia Foundation

You will be serverly missed. You've always been one of my favourite people at the Foundation. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is simplicity is the key to success of Echo and Watchlist?

too. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Template RFC

with Phabricator and I thought we were currently only using Phabricator for bugs related to Phabricator. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Template RFC

will all be using the latter. Indeed! Very much looking forward to that! Phabricator looks like a great piece of software. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] planned move to phabricator

Because we decided to work on the Phabricator project in Phabricator, to learn in depth how it works and how could we work best with it. Eating your own dogfood and all that. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

that has both useful and important implications. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

to be shown to users. Amazon does a pretty good job with this as well. Does Wikiapiary collect data on how many wikis make use of any given extension? Exposing that data may also help someone make an informed decision about whether or not to use an extension. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

by the wider community. I like the discussion that is going on in #69445, thank you for filing that Legoktm. If nothing else, this whole debacle brought this issue back to the center of discussion, somewhere where it needs to be. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-enterprise] MediaWiki for the third party community: get involved!

users were treated as first-party citizens! :D Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Policy on browser support

. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Include an updater

of Mediawiki is both out of date and vulnerable. Just a few days ago I let the Free Software Foundation know that they were running Mediawiki 1.16, which is vulnerable and hasn't been supported for some time. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] tool for quickly uploading 10000 images with description

importer does. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] HTML Forms class, multiple forms

up with a way to determine which form on the page was filled out? Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] English Wikipedia Homepage Framework

discussing here previously a framework for testing stuff across many browsers. If we have something of the like here, I think that it could be well deployed to help them out. No reason for them to re-invent the wheel or do all of the testing manually. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist

[Wikitech-l] SSL Cert Change?

: 2015-08-24 19:09:19 (501 days ahead) I rejected the certificate for the moment, but saved a copy of both if anyone wants to take a look. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] SSL Cert Change?

come to me very concerned about what they heard on the news). Glad to hear that the certs were reissued to take care of that. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] .wiki gTLD

, both to look into potentially appropriate uses (e.g. URL shorteners) and to prevent squatting of WMF trademarks. I imagine that this is just that in action. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

[Wikitech-l] .wiki gTLD

that they have approved.[2] Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology [1]: http://www.namejet.com/Pages/newtlds/tld/WIKI [2]: http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/delegated-strings ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Non-Violent Communication

as much to me. I suggested NVC because it has been a very useful tool for me in the past. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor and Parsoid New Pages in Wikitext?

for clarifying. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Non-Violent Communication

to others. I really think that it could do a lot of good here. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_Communication NVC on Wikipedia [1] http://www.cnvc.org/ Center for Non-Violent Communication [2] https://www.cnvc.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Non-Violent Communication

it as a deliberate attempt at being passive-aggressive. TL;DR: YVVM. Not all methods of communication are appropriate for all media, or of all audiences. I'm sorry if I offended you. That was not my intent. I was only trying to help us all communicate and get along better. Thank you, Derric

[Wikitech-l] Visual Editor and Parsoid New Pages in Wikitext?

about letting folks try Visual Editor here, but I need to be able to work with Wikitext still as there are definitely some unusual things I do in Wikitext from time to time. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor and Parsoid New Pages in Wikitext?

. The documentation for the extension's installation mentions Do you have a link to this documentation? I was reading this page: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VisualEditor Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] February '14 appreciation thread

, and I'm glad to see it happening. Thank you, Derric Atzrott (Hmmm this signature looks like I'm thanking myself given the rest of the mail. I'm not, just to be clear) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

[Wikitech-l] Toolserver Error 502

] to check their eligibility to vote. Is there a bug in bugzilla that I might be able to watch? Or is this a new issue? Thank you, Derric Atzrott [1] https://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/accounteligibility/?event=31 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SSLClientAuthentication Pretty close. I was actually thinking well known PGP keypair, but SSL cert signed by a trusted CA works just as well. I'll fool around with that extension later today. Thank you! Thank you, Derric Atzrott

[Wikitech-l] English Wikipedia Issues

for: 162.17.205.153, 208.80.154.76, 10.64.32.105 Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Thu, 06 Feb 2014 16:40:23 GMT (Missed the Super Bowl and attempting to figure out what all the big talk about it is about, apparently it was a slaughter?) Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's improve our password policy

address for user Foo. The email services have their own procedures for sorting out situations in which people claim their email accounts were hijacked. I feel as though this idea does not meet my need for privacy. I can guess that at least a portion of the community would agree. Thank you, Derric

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Issue

, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Issue

/Johnny_the_Homicidal_Maniac, from 10.64.32.106 via cp1067 cp1067 ([10.64.0.104]:3128), Varnish XID 2127871567 Forwarded for: 162.17.205.153, 208.80.154.76, 10.64.32.106 Error: 503, Service Unavailable at Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:48:33 GMT Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Issue

Mediawiki.org Additionally the issue seems to be affecting more than just the English language Wikipedia. The lojban language Wikipedia is also experiencing difficulties. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Code-in: are you in?

some annoying bugs out of the way. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Exceptions, return false/null, and other error handling possibilities.

forget to do something about them, unlike magic return values which may cause problems which do not surface right away if a check is forgotten. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] File cache + HTTPS question

with the typical VPS or dedicated server. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ...now back to lurking. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving anti-vandalism tools (twinkle, huggle etc) - suspicious edits queue

will. I'm not entirely sure that FlaggedRevs is the best solution here. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Use of http:// urls in wikimedia wiki emails

in China and want the preference to still be checked when I return home? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMFs stance on non-GPL code

it again (well the FAQ actually), that is very non-intuitive... we'd need to fork the Mediawiki process to allow non-GPL extensions to be distributed? I might have to look into licenses again and make sure what I use is GPL compatible. The GPL is such a pain sometimes Thank you, Derric Atzrott

[Wikitech-l] Error Creating Thumbnail?

diagnosing this. Image Details: File:Lab Map.png (6,001 × 2,387 pixels, file size: 1,003 KB, MIME type: image/png) Any ideas what the issue might be or where I could look for more info? Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

Re: [Wikitech-l] How's the SSL thing going?

to SSL. We have plans on SSL for anons by default, but there's no official roadmap for doing so. Something sooner than later might be good. Also have you guys read the presentation. A lot of this is very chilling I agree with Jimbo. We need to fix this as best we can. Thank you, Derric

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

describe it as being done silently. I guess the next question is what can we do to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again? I think everyone would have been a lot more calm if they had read and understood your communication in the months leading up to this. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

[Wikitech-l] CustomEditor Hook

It appears that CustomEditor is no longer in includes/Wiki.php like the documentation says it is.[0] Any idea where this hook relocated to? Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology [0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/CustomEditor

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

not possible any longer. snip Slightly off topic, but for this problem at least you could try using ?debug=true which will turn off that portion of Resource Loader. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Remove 'visualeditor-enable' from $wgHiddenPrefs

, is that the community feels frustrated that the product team for Visual Editor is failing to acknowledge their needs. Enabling this preference would likely clear the air a lot and allow us to have a much saner discussion as to the direction this project needs to go. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ps. Really

[Wikitech-l] Gitblit down?

Afternoon, Anyone else having issues getting at Gitblit? I've not been able to get at it for the past half hour or so. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki extensions as core-like libraries: MediaWiki's fun new landmine for admins

be missing something here. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 120, Issue 54

Give them time Edmund. Alternatively, you can go to the following URL and remove yourself. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Thank you, Derric Atzrott -Original Message- From: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] Alternative editor?

of this hook? Does VisualEditor? I just want a second example of how to build an edit page that does things a little differently so that I can compare the two and learn a bit more about ways that I can go about this. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

[Wikitech-l] Strange Visual Editor Diff

Where do we send diffs from Visual Editor that look strange? Such as this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Polycarbonatediff=prevoldid=5646183 11 Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Strange Visual Editor Diff

Where do we send diffs from Visual Editor that look strange? Such as this one: [snip] Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology The link arrived broken. Here's an attempt to unbreak it: http://j.mp/12VNTD6 And Bugzilla is probably the right place. I suspect that I

Re: [Wikitech-l] ContentHandler Questions

... Thank you, Derric Atzrott It appears that I misunderstood what ContentHandler is and what it does. This misunderstanding has been corrected. If I have any more questions, I'll send them though. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing

[Wikitech-l] ContentHandler Questions

in this email, so if I didn't give enough information or you have questions that might clarify both in my mind and yours what I am trying to accomplish feel free to ask. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology [0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ContentHandler/Doc

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please identify your Wikimedia handles

/ Additionally, not everyone who uses the Mailing list and associated items that are asked about on the Google Form has a Wikitech account. I, for instance, don't have a Wikitech account, but do contribute to the Mailing list whenever I feel I can (and I read everything). Thank you, Derric

[Wikitech-l] Visual Editor Roadmap

Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor Roadmap

, that outlines the upcoming goals for VisualEditor for the remainder of the year? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Problems Updating from 1.18 to 1.21.1

that I may have missed? Has anyone ever seen this sort of issue before? Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problems Updating from 1.18 to 1.21.1

what I may have done wrong. Is there a new setting that I may have missed? Has anyone ever seen this sort of issue before? Thank you, Derric Atzrott I determined the issue. I had $wgUrlProtocols[] = file:; in my LocalSettings.php from an earlier attempt to get File protocol links working (would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problems Updating from 1.18 to 1.21.1

change from some time ago that I had forgotten to remove when we determined we wouldn't be using it. I think that's now twice in as many days I've been ninja'd in an email. Makes me laugh a little bit every time it happens. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] Possibly malicious script inside United_Kingdom article

? Not sure if that is enabled on WMF Wikis, but it would help narrow down which script actually caused the problem. You can add ?debug=true to the end of the URL to enable that. Right now the script you linked to is all the scripts on the page pretty much compressed into one file. Thank you, Derric

Re: [Wikitech-l] WMF Deployment Highlights - Week of June 17th

Editor to allow them to easily change the preference back as well. While this doesn't solve the template issue (and the clean-up that will inevitable come of that), it might work as a solution to the getting new users to test VE issue. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] Rethinking MobileFormatter / Skins

of contents wherever you want in the document.[0] At least in that case, parsing the entire document might be best. /me goes back to lurking. Thank you, Derric Atzrott [0]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?

to the Tor block. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] slight change to the review workflow in Gerrit

) slaves? Computing power is much cheaper than developer time. I absolutely agree. I'm also in agreement on this one. Having tests run after code review negates the point of having tests run in the first place. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed new WMF browser support framework for MediaWiki

with the WMF is a lot better about updating outdated policies than almost anywhere else I have ever seen, we all know that we have our fair share of outdated policies and documentation. Anyhow, that's where I stand at least. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology [0] http

[Wikitech-l] HTTPS Mobile en.wikipedia.org

for this (as I'm not on any other lists, so I don't know their culture and scopes as well), but I believe that it is on topic. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] On GitHub, rename wikimedia/mediawiki-core - wikimedia/mediawiki

, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] secure.wikimedia.org is no more

Following last year's Native HTTPS efforts¹, I've pushed a change² today that redirects all the old secure.wikimedia.org URLs to the respective native HTTPS ones, e.g. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page gets redirected to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Does

Re: [Wikitech-l] About RESOLVED LATER

irrelevant (such as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34329 which I found skimming the list a few days ago). A week provides ample time to do that. Although, I'm sure if there are disagreements on that length of time, another could easily be decided upon. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] Coordination between developers in Free/libre open source projects

in the survey, but I can't. -- Matma Rex You should also add N/A options to many of your questions. Some of them are not applicable to all of us, or make very little sense in the context of some of us. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] A bot to create articles about species

on the topic? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome Željko Filipin, QA Engineer

, but how does one pronounce your name? It is very unique looking to my uncultured eyes. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dependency management, MediaWiki and modularity (was Re: New extension: Diff)

-get and yum. The less distro maintainers have to mess with MediaWiki the better. Wanted to send this to you directly, since it is off topic. Where is that quote from? It is so incredibly true. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dependency management, MediaWiki and modularity (was Re: New extension: Diff)

-get and yum. The less distro maintainers have to mess with MediaWiki the better. Wanted to send this to you directly, since it is off topic. Where is that quote from? It is so incredibly true. Sorry all. I meant to send that to just him. Thank you, Derric Atzrott

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dependency management, MediaWiki and modularity

. Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] shortened links (was Re: MediaWiki 1.20 release candidate (and triage announcement))

fish to fry. Agreed on all counts. As a compromise, might I suggest including both? [0] [0-short]: http://exam.pl/ [0-long]: http://www.example.com/ Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal to add an API/Developer/Developer Hub link to the footer of Wikimedia wikis

Is anyone else excited about this idea or is it just me...? That is an intriguing concept that could indeed work quite well to get people interested, but how many will remain interested after they encounter gerrit? I can't actually say I like this idea a whole lot. Here's why: * Personal

Re: [Wikitech-l] HTML5 and non valid attributes/elements of previous versions (bug 40329)

it for now, fix the transform, and then re-enable the transform and disable the align attribute? Thank you, Derric Atzrott ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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