Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] "let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering "community" team!" (brainstorming)

2014-08-09 Thread Pine W
Hi Quim, Thanks for the invitation. I did not attend Wikimania but would be interested in setting up an office hour to discuss ideas about improving features design and development, including TechCom and the roles of tech ambassadors, ECT, and ECL in features. Could we set up a time off-list? Pin

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] "let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering "community" team!" (brainstorming)

2014-08-08 Thread Quim Gil
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Pine W wrote: > Quim, it seems to me that the methods used by Features have repeatedly > produced troubled results over the years, so it's time for a different > approach. Note that the approach of empowering Tech Ambassadors to explicitly represent the voice of

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] "let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering "community" team!" (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread Pine W
Quoting MZMcBride: "...the two issues (a rush to deploy features versus resource allocation for unwanted features), while sometimes intertwined, can certainly also be discrete." I agree with you in this point, and the Technical Committee is intended in part to improve both situations. Quoting Davi

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] "let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering "community" team!" (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread Pine W
Quim, can you clarify your comments about the Technology Committee? The committee is my proposal as a community member; it is not a top-down, Board-created idea. Its membership is designed to be broadly representative of the MediaWiki user community. The Board mandate is necessary to give TechCom s

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] "let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering "community" team!" (brainstorming)

2014-08-07 Thread Quim Gil
Meta comment: if our common goal is to increase collaboration, then we need to excel ourselves in this collaboration precisely. If we minority of tech-aware contributors are being confrontational between ourselves, then we can only expect to nurture more confrontation than collaboration among the n

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] "let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering "community" team!" (brainstorming)

2014-08-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 12:01 +1000, svetlana wrote: > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, at 06:58, Quim Gil wrote: > > > - encourage feedback by absolutely /anyone/ about the next features they'd > > > like, > > > > > > > Betas and Bugzilla today. Phabricator should make it easier to provide > > feedback in

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] "let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering "community" team!" (brainstorming)

2014-08-05 Thread svetlana
With due notes that I just yesterday updated my nick and my e-mail, and I'm the one who started this thread; On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, at 06:58, Quim Gil wrote: > > - encourage feedback by absolutely /anyone/ about the next features they'd > > like, > > > > Betas and Bugzilla today. Phabricator should