Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2015-01-08 Thread Eallan Wong
Krinkle krinklemail at gmail.com writes: I'm not sure we should implement collapsible sections for desktop. If built and instrumented, one may find that users use it a fair bit and it may be better-than-nothing as solution for certain use cases. But I don't think collapsible sections would

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2015-01-04 Thread quiddity
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 2:20 PM, quiddity pandiculat...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Re: birds eye view - I really like this idea, taken to the 'completism' level... A number of text/code editors, have a minimap attached to the side.

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2015-01-02 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 29/12/2014 12:42, Prateek Saxena ha scritto: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Krinklekrinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Our table of contents is in desperate need of improvement. Having that be more accessible throughout the reading experience would be a big step forward[1] (much like the

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-20 Thread Eallan
I agree with you. Eallan Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:57:44 + (UTC) From: Thomas Mulhall thomasmulhall...@yahoo.com To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia Message-ID

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-20 Thread quiddity
(I've CC'd the design-list, for all of these ideas. Design: please see the earlier part of this thread (7 msgs) for more context, at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-December/079793.html) On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure we

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-19 Thread Eallan Wong
Jon Robson jdlrobson at gmail.com writes: Okay I had a long hard think about this. I would suggest the following EventLogging experiment on the mobile website: Question to answer: If section collapsing is provided to users in such a way that sections are open by default, do users find the

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-19 Thread Thomas Mulhall
Why not add it to the core of mediawiki including the mobile version. On Friday, 19 December 2014, 16:40, Eallan Wong h.yi...@gmail.com wrote: Jon Robson jdlrobson at gmail.com writes: Okay I had a long hard think about this. I would suggest the following EventLogging experiment

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-19 Thread Krinkle
I'm not sure we should implement collapsible sections for desktop. If built and instrumented, one may find that users use it a fair bit and it may be better-than-nothing as solution for certain use cases. But I don't think collapsible sections would be an adequate feature for those use cases.

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-18 Thread Jon Robson
Okay I had a long hard think about this. I would suggest the following EventLogging experiment on the mobile website: Question to answer: If section collapsing is provided to users in such a way that sections are open by default, do users find the ability to collapse sections a useful feature?

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-12 Thread Eallan
Thank you for your reply. So how to take the sensible test? Eallan Jon Robson jdlrobson at gmail.com writes: I think we should explore this. I don't think this is about extra clicks... On tablets like desktop we expand sections by default but __allow___ them to be collapsible. It would be

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-11 Thread Jon Robson
I think we should explore this. I don't think this is about extra clicks... On tablets like desktop we expand sections by default but __allow___ them to be collapsible. It would be interesting to add some event logging to see how widely used that feature is on tablet. It could thus also be useful

[Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-09 Thread Eallan
Hi all! I am thinking about a new idea about a content tree extension of web/desktop/computer Wiki. When I use mobile phone to access website of Wikipedia, I can fold and unfold a content item of the content tree. That's very convenient. However, when I use computer to access Wiki, there is no

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-09 Thread Brian Wolff
On Dec 9, 2014 1:35 PM, Eallan h.yi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I am thinking about a new idea about a content tree extension of web/desktop/computer Wiki. When I use mobile phone to access website of Wikipedia, I can fold and unfold a content item of the content tree. That's very

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new extension of content tree about Wikipedia

2014-12-09 Thread Eallan
Im unsure that would be wanted on the desktop wiki. Desktop doesnt have the space constraints of mobile, and extra clicks should usually be avoided if possible. --bawilff This feature will not add extra clicks, because you can set unfolded as the default status, when you want to fold some