Re: [Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-11-20 Thread Quim Gil
Thank you for this summary. It is very useful. Would you mind commenting more on lessons learned about the selection of candidates? We need the right now for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_Program_for_Women On 11/18/2012 05:17 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: Quim Gil is the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-11-18 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
TL;DR: we're improving at student retention but need to get better at producing something useful at the end of a mentorship period; some suggestions follow. On 08/28/2012 04:44 AM, Finne Boonen wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: I think you touch the most

Re: [Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-08-28 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:07 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Furthermore, considering GSoC solely in terms of benefit to Mediawiki/Wikipedia is short-sighted. Take a look at the organizations participating: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2012 . What

Re: [Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-08-28 Thread Ryan Lane
I think you touch the most important point here. I'm one of the main people who manage GSoC for KDE. KDE is the biggest org taking part in GSoC this year in terms of number of students mentored. In addition we are running our own program (Season of KDE) next to it. So in total I'd say we've

Re: [Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-08-28 Thread Finne Boonen
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: I think you touch the most important point here. I'm one of the main people who manage GSoC for KDE. KDE is the biggest org taking part in GSoC this year in terms of number of students mentored. In addition we are running our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-08-28 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, It seems like some people are saying that getting workable code out of the Google Summer of Code is a relatively minor aspect of the program - maybe the third or fourth most important outcome of it, behind things like finding new developers, getting better at mentoring, teaching software

[Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-08-27 Thread MZMcBride
(Splitting this off from John's critique of ConventionExtension.) Hi. MediaWiki has participated in several (Google) Summer of Code iterations now (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code) and I'm wondering how this partnership program is evaluated. Whenever this program wraps up at the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-08-27 Thread MZMcBride
MZMcBride wrote: MediaWiki has participated in several (Google) Summer of Code iterations now (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code) and I'm wondering how this partnership program is evaluated. After I posted this, Sumana pointed out that MaxSem has done a great evaluation here:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-08-27 Thread Chris McMahon
Most software projects fail (for some definition of fail). Even for highly skilled and highly experienced companies and shops, most software projects fail. I'm not going to look up the Gartner and Forrester and Chaos reports this late on a Monday night, but google away. GSoC is an investment

Re: [Wikitech-l] Evaluating Google Summer of Code

2012-08-27 Thread MZMcBride
Chris McMahon wrote: Most software projects fail (for some definition of fail). Even for highly skilled and highly experienced companies and shops, most software projects fail. I'm not going to look up the Gartner and Forrester and Chaos reports this late on a Monday night, but google away.