Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-09 Thread Antoine Musso
Le Wed, 04 Jan 2012 11:58:55 +0100, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com a écrit: In your post, you ask whether the employee owns the copyright on their own work, or whether WMF does. I don't know this for sure, because it's not explicitly mentioned in my contract, but I believe it's owned by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-05 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 1:47 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: Commons folk doesn't magically delete anything unless there is a reason, nor do they instantly delete in most cases. If peoples uploads are continently getting tagged for deletion, They should look at why they are getting

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-05 Thread Platonides
On 04/01/12 20:53, Gregory Varnum wrote: I know that's what they're SUPPOSE to do - but I've heard tales of other issues as well. (...) I tend to agree it shouldn't be necessary - but given people's concerns about the importance of the files - figure it's at least worth a try. :) Plus I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-04 Thread Max Semenik
On 04.01.2012, 7:21 Gregory wrote: To try and help with categorizing images used specifically for documentation (and which are specifically for extensions) - and to help explain their importance to admins before they delete - I've created a couple of headers: -

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Roan. It's also interesting to learn about that clause. I agree.  I asked whether WMF had something like this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-04 Thread Platonides
On 04/01/12 11:49, Max Semenik wrote: On 04.01.2012, 7:21 Gregory wrote: To try and help with categorizing images used specifically for documentation (and which are specifically for extensions) - and to help explain their importance to admins before they delete - I've created a couple of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-04 Thread Gregory Varnum
I know that's what they're SUPPOSE to do - but I've heard tales of other issues as well. It hasn't been my personal experience that the Commons Admins do a lot of overzealous deletions - but if it helps to prevent even one overzealous deletion - yay. :) I tend to agree it shouldn't be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-04 Thread Chad
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Gregory Varnum ad...@wikiqueer.org wrote: I know that's what they're SUPPOSE to do - but I've heard tales of other issues as well.  It hasn't been my personal experience that the Commons Admins do a lot of overzealous deletions - but if it helps to prevent even

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-04 Thread K. Peachey
Commons folk doesn't magically delete anything unless there is a reason, nor do they instantly delete in most cases. If peoples uploads are continently getting tagged for deletion, They should look at why they are getting tagged. ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-04 Thread Max Semenik
On 05.01.2012, 4:47 K. wrote: Commons folk doesn't magically delete anything unless there is a reason, nor do they instantly delete in most cases. If peoples uploads are continently getting tagged for deletion, They should look at why they are getting tagged. I've seen them delete on sight

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-03 Thread Antoine Musso
Le Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:25:23 +0100, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com a écrit: We currently have a large number of file uploads with no licensing data on MW wiki! And we should really start doing something about it, As some people may have noticed last week(ish) I went though and tag most (if

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-03 Thread Platonides
On 03/01/12 15:26, Antoine Musso wrote: Hello, Just consider that those files have been created by their uploader and that they granted a license for use on mediawiki.org Whatever you do, please do not migrate to commons, or we will surely loose materials in the process due to their

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-03 Thread K. Peachey
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Just consider that those files have been created by their uploader and that they granted a license for use on mediawiki.org I'm pretty sure we can't assume anything with licensing, The uploader must state the license they

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:49 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure we can't assume anything with licensing, The uploader must state the license they want it to be under. If something is uploaded by a WMF employee or contractor and was produced in the course of their work for

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-03 Thread Platonides
On 04/01/12 00:43, Brandon Harris wrote: A caveat: if the images uploaded include any of the Wikipedia trademarks (such as the puzzle globe) they've got a different copyright. What about the image less the logo? (yes, this is the reason screenshots should try to avoid WP logo... at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-03 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Roan. It's also interesting to learn about that clause. I agree. I asked whether WMF had something like this http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-August/067223.html And they do!? very cool. Is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-01 Thread Gregory Varnum
I don't feel strongly about use of Commons - but have posted some MW images there myself (I think...). Any images used in the public domain help section I'd advocate for using there - if for no other reason than it's more accessible to others wikis using them. Regarding MW.org only

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2012-01-01 Thread Platonides
I considered it in the past, but left when looking at the large amount of files without copyright tags. The problem of mediawiki.org is that they have many files whose copyright status is unknown, but that -unlike wikipedia- were uploaded by there authors (with high probability). There are

[Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2011-12-31 Thread K. Peachey
We currently have a large number of file uploads with no licensing data on MW wiki! And we should really start doing something about it, As some people may have noticed last week(ish) I went though and tag most (if not all) of the uploads from this year that didn't have the licensing data. The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2011-12-31 Thread Thomas Gries
Am 31.12.2011 11:25, schrieb K. Peachey: We currently have a large number of file uploads with no licensing data on MW wiki! And we should really start doing something about it, So the floor is open! What course of action should we take? I suggest you create a mw page with the file names of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2011-12-31 Thread K. Peachey
1. Category:Images with unknown copyright status https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Category:Images_with_unknown_copyright_status 2. Category:Files with unknown copyright status https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Category:Files_with_unknown_copyright_status

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2011-12-31 Thread Maarten Dammers
Op 31-12-2011 11:25, K. Peachey schreef: We currently have a large number of file uploads with no licensing data on MW wiki! And we should really start doing something about it, So the floor is open! What course of action should we take? * Notify all uploaders with unknown copyright files *

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2011-12-31 Thread Thomas Gries
Am 31.12.2011 12:21, schrieb Maarten Dammers: Op 31-12-2011 11:25, K. Peachey schreef: We currently have a large number of file uploads with no licensing data on MW wiki! And we should really start doing something about it, So the floor is open! What course of action should we take? * Notify

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2011-12-31 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: * Notify all uploaders with unknown copyright files * Sort out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Files_with_unknown_copyright_status * Move all good files to Commons * Delete all bad files * Disable local uploads

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2011-12-31 Thread Maciej Jaros
K. Peachey (2011-12-31 11:25): We currently have a large number of file uploads with no licensing data on MW wiki! And we should really start doing something about it, As some people may have noticed last week(ish) I went though and tag most (if not all) of the uploads from this year that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2011-12-31 Thread Maarten Dammers
Op 31-12-2011 12:59, Maciej Jaros schreef: This is probably because of UploadWizard UploadWizard is not enabled at www.mediawiki.org. I think you're mixing up Mediawiki.org and Commons Maarten ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Files with unknown copyright status on MediaWiki wiki

2011-12-31 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nlwrote: Op 31-12-2011 11:25, K. Peachey schreef: We currently have a large number of file uploads with no licensing data on MW wiki! And we should really start doing something about it, So the floor is open! What course