>
> While having category intersection is definitely a huge plus now, for it to
> work really well we need it to be traversing up and down. Does it do that
> right now?
>
> Especially because Commons has a policy against over categorisation (which
> makes sense), and because we subcategorise so ins
On 18 Jun 2014, at 06:14, MZMcBride wrote:
> Lars Aronsson wrote:
>> Why is it still, now in 2014, so hard to find images?
>> We have categories and descriptions, but we also know
>> they don't describe all that we want to find in an
>> image. If I need an image with a bicycle and some red
>> flo
On Jun 18, 2014 2:28 PM, "Brian Wolff" wrote:
>
> On 6/18/14, Kristian Kankainen wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated
> > allready.
> >
> > Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called "Concept Based Image
> > Retrieval", search
On 6/18/14, Kristian Kankainen wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated
> allready.
>
> Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called "Concept Based Image
> Retrieval", searching based on the machine vision recognized content of
> the image
Well, you can use this:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/catscan2/quick_intersection.php?lang=commons&project=wikimedia&cats=Red+flowers%0D%0ABicycles&ns=6&depth=5&max=3&start=0&format=html&redirects=&norun
which will give you one image. It has a bicycle and red flowers.
However, if you push the cat
Hoi,
My understanding of English is adequate. I find it however really hard to
find the pictures I seek. I have given up using Commons for illustrations
on my blog for instance.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 18 June 2014 12:25, Kristian Kankainen wrote:
> Could not the categories' language links be us
Could not the categories' language links be useful here? Otherwise
BabelNet[1] has set up different ways to connect concepts in different
languages into a semantic network. They call it a multilingual
encyclopedic dictionary and compile it by combining data from the
Wikipedia(s) and WordNet. It
Hoi,
The "perfect Wikidata heaven solution" will be as imperfect as the "perfect
Wikipedia heaven solution". Lets stay down to earth and go for something
that works most of the time and does not take forever to realise.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 18 June 2014 10:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:
> Kr
Hoi,
As long as our categories are English, they are useless for all of those
who do not speak English. Even so, as long as the current technology is
used for those categories it is a trial to find images at all. Many people
have given up.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 18 June 2014 09:12, Kristian Kanka
Kristian, it's not impossible to find a mentee for such an idea. Please
edit:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects#Category_suggestions
.
While we wait for The Perfect Wikidata Heaven Solution (TM), it's worth
expertimenting with.
Nemo
__
I have no time but for brainstorming and such kind of advicing/helping,
if any volunteers would need this kind of help.
Kristian
18.06.2014 10:20, Pine W kirjutas:
That sounds like a good idea for an experiment. Any volunteers?
Pine
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Kristian Kankainen
wro
That sounds like a good idea for an experiment. Any volunteers?
Pine
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Kristian Kankainen
wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated
> allready.
>
> Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called "Concept Ba
Hello!
I think, if one is clever enough, some categorization could be automated
allready.
Searching for pictures based on meta-data is called "Concept Based Image
Retrieval", searching based on the machine vision recognized content of
the image is called "Content Based Image Retrieval".
Wh
Machine vision is definitely getting better with time. We have
computer-driven airplanes, computer-driven cars, and computer-driven
spacecraft. The computers need us less and less as hardware and software
improve. I think it may be less than a decade before machine vision is good
enough to categori
Lars Aronsson wrote:
>On 06/18/2014 06:14 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> If you search for 'incategory:"Red flowers"', you can find pictures in
>> only that category. If you search for 'incategory:"Red flowers"
>> incategory:"Bicycles"', you can see the intersection of these two
>> categories. (No results
On 06/18/2014 06:14 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
If you search for 'incategory:"Red flowers"', you can find pictures in
only that category. If you search for 'incategory:"Red flowers"
incategory:"Bicycles"', you can see the intersection of these two
categories. (No results currently, alas.)
This requir
Lars Aronsson wrote:
>Why is it still, now in 2014, so hard to find images?
>We have categories and descriptions, but we also know
>they don't describe all that we want to find in an
>image. If I need an image with a bicycle and some red
>flowers, I can only go to the category:bicycles and
>hope th
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
> Why is it still, now in 2014, so hard to find images?
> We have categories and descriptions, but we also know
> they don't describe all that we want to find in an
> image. If I need an image with a bicycle and some red
> flowers, I can only
Hoi,
Now that ONLY indicates that stock agencies have a similar problem to
Commons, it does not help finding images or indicates a path we could take
to improve things.
When images are gaining tags as part of the Wikidatification of multi
mediafiles we at least have a way to add multi lingual supp
On 18/06/14 11:13, Lars Aronsson wrote:
> Why is it still, now in 2014, so hard to find images?
> We have categories and descriptions, but we also know
> they don't describe all that we want to find in an
> image. If I need an image with a bicycle and some red
> flowers, I can only go to the catego
Why is it still, now in 2014, so hard to find images?
We have categories and descriptions, but we also know
they don't describe all that we want to find in an
image. If I need an image with a bicycle and some red
flowers, I can only go to the category:bicycles and
hope that I'm lucky when browsing
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