Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
Le 22/05/13 21:36, Daniel Friesen a écrit : What's your problem with WebRequest anyways? My only problem is that it is MediaWiki specific. I am still hoping we will slowly move to reuse third party components which will make it easier for experienced developers to join us without having to learn our framework. :-d -- Antoine hashar Musso ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
Hey, I'd like to load MediaWiki from some PHP script and have not been able to find a way to do this so far. After someone suggested trying to do this as a maintenance script, I tried http://pastebin.com/scKFxF2J That however does not work as there is a check in doMaintenance.php (shouldExecute) that makes sure initialization is only done when no function calls are present in the call stack. My script is getting called by some other library and thus there will clearly be function calls in the call stack when doMaintenance.php is included. Is it even possible to load MediaWiki in such a case? And what is this restriction in shouldExecute good for? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
What exactly do you mean by load MediaWiki? What's the use case? Maybe try making your own entry point? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, I'd like to load MediaWiki from some PHP script and have not been able to find a way to do this so far. After someone suggested trying to do this as a maintenance script, I tried http://pastebin.com/scKFxF2J That however does not work as there is a check in doMaintenance.php (shouldExecute) that makes sure initialization is only done when no function calls are present in the call stack. My script is getting called by some other library and thus there will clearly be function calls in the call stack when doMaintenance.php is included. Is it even possible to load MediaWiki in such a case? And what is this restriction in shouldExecute good for? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
Making entry points isn't straightforward (which is why I suggested maintenance), but it can be done. We really need to cleanup the bootstrap process. -Chad On May 22, 2013 8:48 AM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: What exactly do you mean by load MediaWiki? What's the use case? Maybe try making your own entry point? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I'd like to load MediaWiki from some PHP script and have not been able to find a way to do this so far. After someone suggested trying to do this as a maintenance script, I tried http://pastebin.com/scKFxF2J That however does not work as there is a check in doMaintenance.php (shouldExecute) that makes sure initialization is only done when no function calls are present in the call stack. My script is getting called by some other library and thus there will clearly be function calls in the call stack when doMaintenance.php is included. Is it even possible to load MediaWiki in such a case? And what is this restriction in shouldExecute good for? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
On Wed, 22 May 2013 08:50:51 -0700, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Making entry points isn't straightforward (which is why I suggested maintenance), but it can be done. We really need to cleanup the bootstrap process. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Entrypoint_Routing_and_404_handling -Chad -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
Hey, Making entry points isn't straightforward (which is why I suggested maintenance), but it can be done. We really need to cleanup the bootstrap process. So you are saying it currently is not possible and that a new entry point needs to be created? If so, is there any way to get such a thing done in a short period of time? I can throw an hour at it or so, but not more. What exactly do you mean by load MediaWiki? Making it so that I can run code that uses some MediaWiki classes. What's the use case? Testing of code that depends on MediaWiki. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Making entry points isn't straightforward (which is why I suggested maintenance), but it can be done. We really need to cleanup the bootstrap process. So you are saying it currently is not possible and that a new entry point needs to be created? If so, is there any way to get such a thing done in a short period of time? I can throw an hour at it or so, but not more. It seems like it...I'm sorry if I mislead you the other day in trying to use maintenance, I suppose I just misunderstood your needs. The pattern in WebStart or Maintenance should give you enough to go on. I can't promise it's a 1 hour or less task, but it shouldn't take you too long. Yeah it sucks, but that just reinforces my point about us needing to fix this. FWIW, the request routing stuff is neat, but it's probably overkill for what we're needing here. Incremental improvements can be made to the bootstraping if anyone is brave enough to play with Setup.php ;-) -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
Hey, I hacked up something extremely evil which is now working for my usecase: http://pastebin.com/WcT1MPNv Clearly this is far from ideal since my code should not know about MW internal at all, it should just include some entry point file. One fun thing I had to do was stuff all local variables in the global vraibles list, since some setup files are assuming they are run in global scope, and some are assuming they are in the same scope as the other files. Since my script is not getting executed in global scope, it is sort of hard to load these files in global scope :) So if someone could create a working solution that has an evilness level of less then 9000, I'd be very happy. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Mediawiki-vagrant-screenshot.png Does this help? On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, I hacked up something extremely evil which is now working for my usecase: http://pastebin.com/WcT1MPNv Clearly this is far from ideal since my code should not know about MW internal at all, it should just include some entry point file. One fun thing I had to do was stuff all local variables in the global vraibles list, since some setup files are assuming they are run in global scope, and some are assuming they are in the same scope as the other files. Since my script is not getting executed in global scope, it is sort of hard to load these files in global scope :) So if someone could create a working solution that has an evilness level of less then 9000, I'd be very happy. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Cheers, Nischay Nahata nischayn22.in ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
Hey, Another problem with this current approach is that it will cause extensions to be loaded, which I have no use for. This however seems hard to get around due to LocalSettings both defining needed config and including the extensions. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
On Wed, 22 May 2013 09:47:14 -0700, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I hacked up something extremely evil which is now working for my usecase: http://pastebin.com/WcT1MPNv Looks like we just need to abstract most of WebStart.php and part of doMaintenance into something like includes/Start.php to support things that are neither web nor maintenance. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
Le 22/05/13 17:57, Daniel Friesen a écrit : On Wed, 22 May 2013 08:50:51 -0700, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Making entry points isn't straightforward (which is why I suggested maintenance), but it can be done. We really need to cleanup the bootstrap process. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Entrypoint_Routing_and_404_handling Ok I am hijacking the thread. http://symfony.com/doc/current/components/routing/introduction.html :-) That is a robust standalone lib that would give us proper routing and let us dish out WebRequest. You can even define the routes in a YAML file yu. -- Antoine hashar Musso ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote: Looks like we just need to abstract most of WebStart.php and part of doMaintenance into something like includes/Start.php to support things that are neither web nor maintenance. Honestly, why don't we just move that stuff into Setup.php. I mean, pretty much every entry point script includes Setup.php anyway. The only things that should be done in entry points is stuff that's specific to that entry point. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:18:29 -0700, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote: Looks like we just need to abstract most of WebStart.php and part of doMaintenance into something like includes/Start.php to support things that are neither web nor maintenance. Honestly, why don't we just move that stuff into Setup.php. I mean, pretty much every entry point script includes Setup.php anyway. The only things that should be done in entry points is stuff that's specific to that entry point. There are entrypoint specific things that have to be done before Setup.php but after other common stuff you'd think of putting inside Setup.php. Settings can be entrypoint specific. Web start needs to do things like setup output buffering before including Setup. etc... -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:17:13 -0700, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 22/05/13 17:57, Daniel Friesen a écrit : On Wed, 22 May 2013 08:50:51 -0700, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Making entry points isn't straightforward (which is why I suggested maintenance), but it can be done. We really need to cleanup the bootstrap process. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Entrypoint_Routing_and_404_handling Ok I am hijacking the thread. http://symfony.com/doc/current/components/routing/introduction.html :-) That is a robust standalone lib that would give us proper routing and let us dish out WebRequest. You can even define the routes in a YAML file yu. * The router does not handle non-routed stuff. So it can't properly handle support for both routed paths and routing queries to various entrypoints. * WebRequest does much more than routing so it's not going to disappear. I've also been contemplating reverse routing. Defining the rules we generate many urls with. Trying to define most of that info inside the same place we route paths. To make defining new things like routing for the ShortUrl extension, etc... or things like the NamespacePaths extension simpler. Besides making custom path patterns simpler that plan was also to tackle our issue with things like non-indexed paths vs. indexed ones. Right now we blindly send all non-query paths to an indexed path (the short url) and all queried paths to non-indexed ones. While we have some non-query URIs that would be best always non-indexed (like Search) and some query URIs that actually should be indexed (like query pages beyond the first page; after we add rel=next/prev to the category page). Additionally it would be ideal for our non-indexed path to be a pretty url too. There is no reason that our non-indexed urls have to be index.php. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
Hey, * WebRequest does much more than routing :( so it's not going to disappear. :(( Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:31:50 -0700, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, * WebRequest does much more than routing :( so it's not going to disappear. :(( Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- What's your problem with WebRequest anyways? -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Loading MediaWiki from some script
On May 22, 2013 3:36 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:31:50 -0700, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, * WebRequest does much more than routing :( so it's not going to disappear. :(( Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- What's your problem with WebRequest anyways? -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] Agreed. WebRequest isn't that bad. It could use some cleanup, but overall I've found it pretty useful. Also, I didn't realize WebRequest had anything to do with routing at all. It was my understanding that it is more just an object oriented interface to $_GET and whatnot. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
